Loveless Remaster Actually Sound Better?

If you are listening to a download that is 222MB in size, you are listening to a fake.

Read My Magpie Eyes or hit the index for the MBV juicy bits at a shop, Soundslike. The time-suck of recording Loveless is detailed (from predominately outside perspectives). Lots of perch-knocking re: Shields in that book, probably deserved in terms of the headaches he caused his backers.

Mike McGonigal's book on the album contains a lot of rebuttal to those general accounts via Shields himself -- truth doubtless is somewhere in between.

I've never spoken about it, but I think in large part Mike got taken for a ride on the good ship Shields there.

If you are listening to a download that is 222MB in size, you are listening to a fake.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:01 AM

how do u know? fake megabytes?

The recent torrent posted on What.CD is a fake. It is not the remastered 2-CD edition of Loveless - it is the original CD run through mild DSP on someone's computer and uploaded to acquire seed ratio with trackers. Believe it or not, this is a lucrative proposition for some kids.

there was a double cd someone posted on another loveless thread here that purported to be the remaster, but I couldn't tell the difference b/w those and the original. the isn't anything leak that was laying around a few months ago did sound different; not necessarily better, just different. if that was legitimate I don't think I'll bother purchasing it, I have no problem with the original CDs of any of these, frankly.

I must have the fake, because I can't tell any difference. Either that or my ears are still shot from seeing the White Stripes in a small club back in '03.

I would bet all the leaks are fake. So don't go making judgements on it yet.

which sounds better the fake disc 1 or fake disc 2

They did a spot on this, on "Freshly Squeezed" on C4 this morning.

The real remasters are never fucking coming out anyway.

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I've downloaded the 2 CD loveless "resmaster"... I've only listened to each version once but so far I can't tell the difference between them and the old CD version I have...

Supposed to actually be out today!

Now HMV has it as 6th April.

bye.

>The real remasters are never fucking coming out anyway.

OTM! This from Pfork's original news story:

"As initially reported on Wired's Blog Network and now confirmed by a Sony BMG UK rep, the only two MBV albums that matter (This Is Your Bloody Valentine was practically an EP anyway) will hit UK shops June 16 in newly remastered formats."

so that was June 16 last year and the delay has been because Shields has been writing the liner notes? Or cleaning chinchilla cages?

writing the liner notes.

They'd better be damn good!

it's also April 6th on Amazon : so is this really a remastered version ?

Ok so how does the limited edition red vinyl "remaster" released last year fit in? To my ears it sounded much better than my old CD.

Each month Amazon bumps the release date back to the next month. These are NEVER being released.

It's a race to see which comes out first, this or the next MBV album.

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Yep, Chinese Democracy...

Actually, soon it'll be time for another Loveless reissue-- mastering technology has changed since these were announced. So let's hold out for the 20th Ann. set.

what has changed about "remastering technology"?

Now HMV has it as 6th April. 1st June.

Shields: "I bet I can get in the news a lot just by talking about remastering those albums"
man at pub: "fuck off, that was all a long time ago, nobody even remembers your band"
Shields: "five pounds says I can get headlines"
man at pub: "it's a bet!"

--

Shields: "I guess I'll be collecting my five pounds from you tonight!"
man at pub: "oh do fuck off, those are headlines on a fucking website, nobody else reported it or even knows who you are"
Shields: "five more says I can do it again with the exact same piece of news in four months"
man at pub: "that's a bet right there my friend, website or no"

--

man at pub: "change a twenty?"
Shields: "oh don't look so glum. want to double that? I could always talk about b-sides"
man at pub: "LYSOL DOUCHE"

I've said it before, I'll say it again; they do not exist.

Oh yes they do.

Lies!

you think he's just bullshitting everyone about having worked on remastering at least some of this stuff?
in other news, I saw MBV last night. Glorious.

did they play the remastered versions?

there was a lot of defraction & thermal runaway in the signal chain

MBV definitely emerged victorious in the Loudness Wars last night.

Now HMV has it as 6th April. 1st June. 6th July, for LP and CD formats.

Never happening.

These will come out right after Chinese Democracy shit, Neil Young's Archives shit, well... never.

you meant 'before' there, but hey...

Yes, cold medicine addled brain screwed that all up. Point made, I think.

yeah now that the beatles remasters are actually coming out, these remain the only long-anticipated holdouts, I think.

Well, apart from the Desparate Bicycles anthology...

and the dolly mixture anthology!

Derrick May will have made a new tune by the time these remasters arrive.

My Bloody Valentine
Loveless: Remastered: 2cd £8.99
list price £16.99 your saving £8.00
release date: 28-9-2009

Now it's in the race with the Kraftwerk box set.

Release date: 28-9-2009

ooh, hasn't changed for 2 weeks!

It doesn't exist.

It's there for people who are awaiting new material to get told "Pssh, how long has it taken them to do a RE-RELEASE???"

I've downloaded the 2 CD loveless "resmaster"... I've only listened to each version once but so far I can't tell the difference between them and the old CD version I have...

Yeah I wonder what it was that I downloaded.