the emo canon

yeah but we get to change the names of things when we talk about history

Oh yeah, you're American.

Cant wait for the Texas History of Emo schoolbooks!

I doubt I'm much older than the OP and when I was first hearing about/listening to/arguably playing "emo", it was this noisy mathy screamy music (the stuff that fourfa guy writes about) with roots in Rites of Spring etc. I think I just thought of these bands as "pop" or "indie rock", actually. I've got no problem with ALL of this stuff (including MCR) being included as "emo" but it seems bizarre to me to restrict the definition to these bands.

(Four Minute Mile sounds more post-Superchunk than anything to me, btw. Also, I think I feel less perverse now: Angel Hair and Fall Out Boy were both really tight bands while GUK seem to be going for a loose, sloppy aesthetic.)

Clikatat Ikatowi

yes

Hoover

YES

gonna go d/l The Lurid Traversal of Route 7 right now

well you're just assuming we're all on-board with the first/second/third wave paradigm

i kind of prefer to think of rites of spring etc as "proto" and MCR etc as "post"

― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:20 PM (48 minutes ago)

I don't even listen to emo and I though the whole first/second/third wave thing was pretty standard? I was a freshman in college for second wave emo... I mean thats what we fucking called it - second wave.

So where do Straylight Run and Taking Back Sunday fit in? And Jimmy Eat World? Is Glassjaw emo? And how come in this entire thread there's only ONE mention of Sunny Day Real Estate (that I can find)?

Methinks some of ILM is confused about Emo...

(Also, I'm curious what da croupier was studying in Spin to try to be cool.:P)

http://i.imgur.com/J6H5v.jpg

OTM

Just listened to Rainer Maria Look Now Look Again thanks to this thread. So good!

tbs + glassjaw fit in under mallcore lulz

was cursive?

on the rites of spring issue

i agree they are basically a hardcore band

but back then it was like are you "emotional" compared to like thick necked boston dudes that wanted to beat you to death with lock in a sock and drink budweiser out of your skull, so, different times

Early Cursive certainly must count as emo. The more recent stuff is more straight-up indie rock imo.

lol M@tt that should be a poll

It came a little too late and was a little too weird to count as canon, but the first Lovesick record is absolutely outstanding and pushes all the same buttons for me:

http://www.youtube.com/v/W8HHPU-clXA&fs=1&hl=en

lol @ Juliana Theory being mentioned in this thread -- i heard about them a lot in high school from a friend whose cousin was in that band. there was definitely a point in the late '90s where suddenly all my friends were listening to early Jimmy Eat World and At The Drive-In and i would turn up my nose at that stuff and half-heartedly try to get them into whatever vaguely emo thing i could stand like Joan of Arc or the Dismemberment Plan. and then by the end of senior year i was playing drums in a screamo band because they were the only guys i knew who wanted to do anything remotely punk.

man the guitarist from embrace was really something else. never heard an 80s hc dude playing like that, the guy was def in a league of his own at the time. a fucken hero!

it occurs to me today how many bands the anniversary invented

i went on a blind-date once to a show where rainer maria opened for ...and you will know us by the trail of dead

― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

could go either way

I'll throw up 'These Are Not Fall Colors' by Lync up for consideration, too.

indian summer and saetia are good calls imo

did anyone mention i hate myself?

wow that's a real band name!

those guys rocked

man the guitarist from embrace was really something else.
love mike hampton so much. happy by his band the snakes is one of my favorite dischord-related obscurities - a kinda indefensible parody record with that happens to have some really amazing anglo-pop songs on it. it isn't remotely emo but, um, check him on that one last wish upthread!

POX EMO BANDS

indian summer
moss icon
current
policy of 3
mohinder
hoover
rites of spring
embassy
assfactor 4 (do u count them as emo? i count them as emo, or punk rock i guess.)
native nod (dave from this band, along with his girlfriend, just put out a really good roots-pop rekkerd with killer harmony vox. the band is called trummors. i love it.)

one time i went to a piebald show and ppl were shouting for "grace kelly" and travis was like "yeah we don't really play that anymore" and that's when i knew the scene was over #emorecollections

ha i think that happened at a fugazi show where a guy was threatening to kill them if they didn't play minor threat.

yeah some things never change

btw a funny thing that happened -- someone my wife entirely missed this scene -- we were watching tv the other night and an ad came on for dashboard confessional playing somewhere huge (msg?? idk) and she was like "what?? what the hell is this awful music??" and i O_O and felt that she was so lucky, in a way.

there was a time when, along with beck's midnite vultures' album, i would hear dashboard confessional ALLTHETIME anytime i hung out with anyone from high school. /exaggeration

yeah i liked i hate myself.

my trinity was always really saetia, you & i, and joshua fit for battle

― fauxmarc, jueves 12 de julio de 2012 19:04 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow that was a lie, i didn't even get into jffb til after the fact. it was saetia, you & i, and ORCHID. orchid ruled.

trying to remember some of the other bands that had members of those like the assistant (female on vocals!) and there was another big one with primarily you & i people but i can't remember the name.

forget how much i was into yaphet kotto too

oh wow and THE SADDEST LANDSCAPE

european: suis la lune, the death of anna karina

Lync was sooo goooood.

Were smoking popes considered emo?

Orchid? fuck yeah. Jerome's Dream anyone?

Amazingly, the links here still work: http://fugitiveequilibrium.blogspot.ca/2009/02/okara-revisited.html

I don't know how many people from outside Ottawa have any memory of Okara but I loved them.

i tried getting into jd but it never really happened

On the extreme weirdo screamo end:
Antioch Arrow - In Love With Jetts

On the indie poppier side:
No Knife - Hit Man Dreams

Seam - The Pace is Glacial
Seam - Are You Driving Me Crazy?

Yes, Walter - definitely - good addition.

Sense Field - Building, Tonight And Forever
Christie Front Drive - Discography
Mineral - The Power Of Failing, Endserenading
Samiam - Soar, Billy, Clumsy

Navio Forge sums it all up.

two candidates I didn't see mentioned, from the pop-punk and screamo sides of the spectrum, respectively

midtown - save the world, lose the girl
finch - what it is to burn

midtown discography particularly interesting now bc of the success of cobra starship

i think i saw midtown like 3 times! i'm positive i had that album too.

I was big on midtown but that second album totally turned me off, I remember it being really sterile and charmless compared to LTWSTG. revisiting now out of curiosity

whoops STWLTG rather, acronym butchery

ha how could i forget the opening hook