the emo canon

btw 4-minute mile gets my vote for emo-est emo in all of emodom. nobody, before or after, can touch those guys when it comes to non-threatening screaming

literally the only thing wrong with that album is that it doesn't have "I'm A Loner Dottie, A Rebel" on it, and if I want to hear it I have to go listen to the overproduced-but-still-decent second album

Owls!

dunno, I've tried regetting into all of the guk and it sounds kinda dated. can still hang with std.

I don't know if I would call Owls emo but that album is fucking great regardless.

xpost the only std I've successfully enjoyed in the last 5 years is the debut album—I think I burned out on the rest a loooong time ago

Are Squirrel Bait proto-emo?

xpost lol u enjoyed an std

guys the drums on this song!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6IOdBCeias

okay forgive me guys but I had to do this: hilarious pfork time capsule in 3, 2, 1...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3433-eudora/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3430-something-to-write-home-about/

hahahaha

(I can't hate tho, those reviews are masterpieces of the effortless old pitchfork hatchet-job style — "roughly infinitely" had me dying)

yeah tbf i was still reading pf then, stopped couple years later

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

the first planes mistaken for stars album and ep = <3, plus a lot of the other stuff mentioned here

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

someone mentioned false cathedrals upthread, which i had never heard before. listening on spotify now and it's tremendous!

if planes mistaken for stars is called for then so are ....the juliana theory (semi-lol)

oh man dare we broach boysetsfire, the matchbook ep at least

The Juliana Theory are not allowed in the canon! :)

bsf rules but i dont think theyre emo

certainly not anything post-after the eulogy. i guess "vehicle" is arguably emo/emo-ish?

bsf were easily emo, they were posterboys, i mean that ep was called "this crying, this screaming, my voice was being born". those shows were such cryfests. full confession they were the first hardcore band i liked.

but eventually got over them. "rookie" off of after the eulogy shows up in the boston phoenix' top 100 emo songs of all time not that that's a deciderer or anything.

yeah but theyre WAY to the hxc edge of braid or tpr or guk. like way way harder

i guess if were doing an all-inclusive rites-of-spring-inspired list then yah. but based on the selections in the op i dont think they fit

yeah early BSF is def emo

juliana theory is proto-third-wave bullshit at best

title track on after the eulogy way better than rookie

WHERES YOUR ANGER WHERES YOUR FUCKIN RAGE

w/e we already went emocore in thread re: moss icon, etc

the juliana theory's up in that phoenix list too though i didn't like august in bethany that they chose. understand this is a dream came out in 1999, there's stuff in this thread already from then or later. i played for evangeline out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfrur2WQq0

It's not that The Juliana Theory came too late, they just weren't really that good!

lol ok

this is the song i always think abt when i think of them. its so bad its good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vXuVrG08k

lol i can't remember what the exact scenario was but re: if i told you this was killing me, that lyric "now you`re drowning in your own saliva trying to speak yourself to the top of your empty world" i think there was a previous version that was less ridiculous, and for whatever reason "top of your empty world" then was "top of your hardcore world", still want to know what the change was about

who mentioned jejune

i've got a lot of thanks for you

man i almost forgot about Jejune

"this afternoon's malady" is a great album.

also:

i was hoping for more rainer maria love on this thread

― i've got a cock like the M79 (electricsound), Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:39 AM (10 hours ago)

otm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXbLvjilvI

listened to the first two rainer maria records this morning and man they were a haphazard band but so great

and then they transformed into a radically boring band

hi emo canon thread! i once sat through a solo performance by the dude from rainer maria and it was the worst thing ever. but i recall liking some actual rainer maria.

now that i think of it, mike kinsella was playing that show (as Owen, I guess) and that first record of his might be the only emo-y thing i'd want to hear these days.

Everything Falls Apart beat Rites of Spring by two years.

American Football
Promise Ring. Solid

No Dag Nasty. Or Gray Matter? Ground Zero? 76% Uncertain?

Rainer Maria - excellent. Mystery and Misery

i once sat through a solo performance by the dude from rainer maria and it was the worst thing ever. but i recall liking some actual rainer maria.

guy got gradually more and more "rockstar" / ridiculous with each rm show

crowd singalongs to this were crucial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntUFNYKr0oU

torn between giving all these bands another shot or continuing to loathe based on the heartbreak of finally getting to college and finding out the cool kids only cared about this shit and not what i'd studied for years in spin (plus white belts, wtf)

also what was that other band that always got compared to rm or at least the rm crowd seemed to also like them with guy from salute your shorts? i didn't really like them.

i just wanted to dress like a middle-aged man from dayton and play sloppy power chords was that so wrong

i went on a blind-date once to a show where rainer maria opened for ...and you will know us by the trail of dead

I am a middle aged man who likes some Sense Field.

Undertones Buzzcocks. Charlie Feathers

Emogasm

also what was that other band that always got compared to rm or at least the rm crowd seemed to also like them with guy from salute your shorts? i didn't really like them.

i love you

I'm not really convinced that, aside from the Juno recs, emo ever spawned a better album than Brand New's The Devil and God...

the devil and god is the only third/fourth-wave emo record that i think everyone would like

everyone in the world