the emo canon

aw man great thread

how has no one mentioned ALKALINE TRIO

esp give their key role as a bridge between 3rd (?) and 4th (?) wave. or as proto-screamo.

oh i see they were literally mentioned like 3 posts ago, carry on

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

also what about hey mercedes? everynight fire works is as good as any braid album imo/iirc. guess its not really 'canon'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLsDzmqoVrQ

their first ep was better than EFW. i guess "old" braid fans hated hey mercedes but i always thought they were great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asJi57AQck

I mis-identified "Pride and Confusion" as "Lighthouse". Dudes who have a copy of the Everysong vinyl probably knew that already.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

― max, Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:08 AM (1 hour ago)

I'm not one to get in debates about what is or isn't emo, but Background is one of the sweater-iest emo albums ever. The stuff from the last lineup was definitely poppier. Great band, regardless.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

undue influence they had over saves the day makes me want to include them but i kind of agree

lifetime rules. they def added an emo vibe to new jersey hardcore.

I haven't really chimed in on this thread yet, and most (all?) of the bands I would nominate for canonization have already been mentioned, but can I just say HOW HAPPY I AM THAT THIS IS HAPPENING??

btw 4-minute mile gets my vote for emo-est emo in all of emodom. nobody, before or after, can touch those guys when it comes to non-threatening screaming

literally the only thing wrong with that album is that it doesn't have "I'm A Loner Dottie, A Rebel" on it, and if I want to hear it I have to go listen to the overproduced-but-still-decent second album

Owls!

dunno, I've tried regetting into all of the guk and it sounds kinda dated. can still hang with std.

I don't know if I would call Owls emo but that album is fucking great regardless.

xpost the only std I've successfully enjoyed in the last 5 years is the debut album—I think I burned out on the rest a loooong time ago

Are Squirrel Bait proto-emo?

xpost lol u enjoyed an std

guys the drums on this song!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6IOdBCeias

okay forgive me guys but I had to do this: hilarious pfork time capsule in 3, 2, 1...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3433-eudora/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3430-something-to-write-home-about/

hahahaha

(I can't hate tho, those reviews are masterpieces of the effortless old pitchfork hatchet-job style — "roughly infinitely" had me dying)

yeah tbf i was still reading pf then, stopped couple years later

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

the first planes mistaken for stars album and ep = <3, plus a lot of the other stuff mentioned here

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

someone mentioned false cathedrals upthread, which i had never heard before. listening on spotify now and it's tremendous!

if planes mistaken for stars is called for then so are ....the juliana theory (semi-lol)

oh man dare we broach boysetsfire, the matchbook ep at least

The Juliana Theory are not allowed in the canon! :)

bsf rules but i dont think theyre emo

certainly not anything post-after the eulogy. i guess "vehicle" is arguably emo/emo-ish?

bsf were easily emo, they were posterboys, i mean that ep was called "this crying, this screaming, my voice was being born". those shows were such cryfests. full confession they were the first hardcore band i liked.

but eventually got over them. "rookie" off of after the eulogy shows up in the boston phoenix' top 100 emo songs of all time not that that's a deciderer or anything.

yeah but theyre WAY to the hxc edge of braid or tpr or guk. like way way harder

i guess if were doing an all-inclusive rites-of-spring-inspired list then yah. but based on the selections in the op i dont think they fit

yeah early BSF is def emo

juliana theory is proto-third-wave bullshit at best

title track on after the eulogy way better than rookie

WHERES YOUR ANGER WHERES YOUR FUCKIN RAGE

w/e we already went emocore in thread re: moss icon, etc

the juliana theory's up in that phoenix list too though i didn't like august in bethany that they chose. understand this is a dream came out in 1999, there's stuff in this thread already from then or later. i played for evangeline out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfrur2WQq0

It's not that The Juliana Theory came too late, they just weren't really that good!

lol ok

this is the song i always think abt when i think of them. its so bad its good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vXuVrG08k

lol i can't remember what the exact scenario was but re: if i told you this was killing me, that lyric "now you`re drowning in your own saliva trying to speak yourself to the top of your empty world" i think there was a previous version that was less ridiculous, and for whatever reason "top of your empty world" then was "top of your hardcore world", still want to know what the change was about

who mentioned jejune

i've got a lot of thanks for you

man i almost forgot about Jejune

"this afternoon's malady" is a great album.

also:

i was hoping for more rainer maria love on this thread

― i've got a cock like the M79 (electricsound), Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:39 AM (10 hours ago)

otm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXbLvjilvI

listened to the first two rainer maria records this morning and man they were a haphazard band but so great

and then they transformed into a radically boring band