the emo canon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyeRkWO9CY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGj3g6f72Rg&feature=related

Also I can't believe how much I listened to this in high school.

Ixnay on the eventy-evensay, J.

Felldown: Can't talk about the label because the contracts aren't signed yet, but there are plans for a very fantastic and beautiful box set as well as a single-cd sampler for non-obsessives. The label is someone we are very happy to be dealing with. (If you would, as a personal favor to someone who may or may not be C0lin M33d3r, not copy and make available what Ken sent you, I would be much obliged. Many of those mixes will be cleaned up even more for the official release.) The Crabtowne comp would be worth looking and trading for, I think, but not worth paying big money for. The bands Strictly Prohibited and Images make it clear that Moss Icon didn't really come from nowhere, and the Hated tunes show our origins as a joke band.

re: angel hair

i loved (still love) anasarca - a dc band who's entire discog from 94-97 was like 7 songs (not the euro? metal band). whenever i mention i like them someone's all "blah blah blah angel hair was sooo much better" but i could never really get into angel hair, didn't think they were as melodic of what i heard and never saw a reason to compare them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gperskH7SM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM36Cmfbrrc

Thanks Colin/Not Colin! I definitely won't share the cdrs. At the time Ken alluded to them being a placeholder of sorts, and I've always treated them as such.

Good call on the early ATDI - I'll add early Alkaline Trio and Smoking Popes

ha I used to love Smoking Popes. I think I first saw them open for Morrissey in 1998 ish.

Perversely, I listen to both the whacked-out noisy end of 90s emo and commercial major label 00s emo-pop but never really got into the indie pop-rock stuff in the middle (most of the stuff on this thread). I should probably give it more of a chance. I remember Braid sounding all right.

aw man great thread

how has no one mentioned ALKALINE TRIO

esp give their key role as a bridge between 3rd (?) and 4th (?) wave. or as proto-screamo.

oh i see they were literally mentioned like 3 posts ago, carry on

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

also what about hey mercedes? everynight fire works is as good as any braid album imo/iirc. guess its not really 'canon'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLsDzmqoVrQ

their first ep was better than EFW. i guess "old" braid fans hated hey mercedes but i always thought they were great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asJi57AQck

I mis-identified "Pride and Confusion" as "Lighthouse". Dudes who have a copy of the Everysong vinyl probably knew that already.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

― max, Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:08 AM (1 hour ago)

I'm not one to get in debates about what is or isn't emo, but Background is one of the sweater-iest emo albums ever. The stuff from the last lineup was definitely poppier. Great band, regardless.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

undue influence they had over saves the day makes me want to include them but i kind of agree

lifetime rules. they def added an emo vibe to new jersey hardcore.

I haven't really chimed in on this thread yet, and most (all?) of the bands I would nominate for canonization have already been mentioned, but can I just say HOW HAPPY I AM THAT THIS IS HAPPENING??

btw 4-minute mile gets my vote for emo-est emo in all of emodom. nobody, before or after, can touch those guys when it comes to non-threatening screaming

literally the only thing wrong with that album is that it doesn't have "I'm A Loner Dottie, A Rebel" on it, and if I want to hear it I have to go listen to the overproduced-but-still-decent second album

Owls!

dunno, I've tried regetting into all of the guk and it sounds kinda dated. can still hang with std.

I don't know if I would call Owls emo but that album is fucking great regardless.

xpost the only std I've successfully enjoyed in the last 5 years is the debut album—I think I burned out on the rest a loooong time ago

Are Squirrel Bait proto-emo?

xpost lol u enjoyed an std

guys the drums on this song!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6IOdBCeias

okay forgive me guys but I had to do this: hilarious pfork time capsule in 3, 2, 1...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3433-eudora/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3430-something-to-write-home-about/

hahahaha

(I can't hate tho, those reviews are masterpieces of the effortless old pitchfork hatchet-job style — "roughly infinitely" had me dying)

yeah tbf i was still reading pf then, stopped couple years later

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

the first planes mistaken for stars album and ep = <3, plus a lot of the other stuff mentioned here

not got a v comprehensive idea of how emo fits together but surely elliott wld fit in somewhere?

someone mentioned false cathedrals upthread, which i had never heard before. listening on spotify now and it's tremendous!

if planes mistaken for stars is called for then so are ....the juliana theory (semi-lol)

oh man dare we broach boysetsfire, the matchbook ep at least

The Juliana Theory are not allowed in the canon! :)

bsf rules but i dont think theyre emo

certainly not anything post-after the eulogy. i guess "vehicle" is arguably emo/emo-ish?

bsf were easily emo, they were posterboys, i mean that ep was called "this crying, this screaming, my voice was being born". those shows were such cryfests. full confession they were the first hardcore band i liked.

but eventually got over them. "rookie" off of after the eulogy shows up in the boston phoenix' top 100 emo songs of all time not that that's a deciderer or anything.

yeah but theyre WAY to the hxc edge of braid or tpr or guk. like way way harder

i guess if were doing an all-inclusive rites-of-spring-inspired list then yah. but based on the selections in the op i dont think they fit

yeah early BSF is def emo

juliana theory is proto-third-wave bullshit at best

title track on after the eulogy way better than rookie

WHERES YOUR ANGER WHERES YOUR FUCKIN RAGE

w/e we already went emocore in thread re: moss icon, etc

the juliana theory's up in that phoenix list too though i didn't like august in bethany that they chose. understand this is a dream came out in 1999, there's stuff in this thread already from then or later. i played for evangeline out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfrur2WQq0