the emo canon

(for reference:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYLbCH08OI

+1 for saves the day - stay what you are
jawbreaker - dear you was also a pretty big album for me+my emo friends

i might also mention that i was getting some SERIOUS late 90s emo vibes from Abe Vigoda when i saw em live a couple years back

FAIRWEATHER!

their last album Lusitania was killer!

it's the dudes who went on to form Black Heart Procession

and Pinback too.

this song seems like your steez kind of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsWGydETxc

I missed the boat on all this stuff and knew a bunch of college radio guys who were like five to ten years younger than me (I just turned 38) who were way into a lot of the bands mentioned here.

I've since listened to a lot of these records out of curiosity as I respect the tastes of a lot of these people, but nothing ever really clicked for me though I don't really hate any of it. I think you had to be into it at a certain point in your life, probably like a lot stuff I loved when I was 18 or whatever.

This really isn't my wheelhouse, especially considering how vocal I was about my hatred for MANY of these bands at the time. Still, glad to see at least one person threw a bone to Samiam.

Man, Three Mile Pilot is another band that I ... like, totally would have checked out if the Internet in 1999 were like it is now. Heard their praises plenty. But yeah, I'm really digging that. I'm a Pinback fan, though, so.

Two more late Hated songs, because I underrepresented Erik:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1r4-_3c7M

That's "Lighthouse" and "Miggy's Delight". The Miggy's Delight take is a very early one where I am still learning the song and writing the bassline, and from the unstoppable 8th notes thing I have going on, Ken the drummer was probably smoked out at that session and I was mostly trying to keep the tempo from sloooooowing.

Oh damn that Promise Ring show I'm going to is next weekend not next month. I gotta brush up on some of this stuff before the show. It's been a while. Thanking everyone for The Hated vids btw.

i was hoping for more rainer maria love on this thread

x-post Or TWU specifically as it turns out - so good!

On the very tip of the post-rock end of the spectrum I nominate Juno's This is the Way it Goes and Goes and Goes.

― Simon H., Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:50 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

love this record

Just drumming up business for the reissue. My cat's gotta eat. :)

but not too much

Jejune, Lifetime, Seaweed, Joan of Arc, Pedro the Lion

Ha this is a fair summary of my download directory from the first month of finally getting on Napster in 1999 and typing in all the band names I'd picked up from the past couple of years of American magazines, webzines and mailing lists.

I think this stuff mostly just missed the time in my life when I would really have fallen hard for it, but I have much love for Jawbreaker still, and it led me to great not-emo bands such as Sweep the Leg Johnny (on an Emo Diaries comp!), Pele (on Polyvinyl), Pinback, etc. Looking forward to checking out all the youtubes on this thread later for a mix of 10% nostalgia and 90% "so that's what I missed"

violent femmes - s/t

Colin (or not Colin),

Can you confirm yet whether or not the discography's going to be on NumeroGroup? I understand they did a beautiful job on the Codeine box, so it's super exciting if true. I bought the home made discography cdrs from Ken (Spastic Rats cdr too) and while I'm glad he did them he put like zero effort into the packaging. Can't wait for the proper reissue.

I know the Crabtowne compilation cassette is like impossible to find, but is it worth seeking out? I like you guys and Spastic Rats and Christ on a Crutch, but I've never heard of the rest of the bands so they're a mystery to me.

Another great thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym7qbQHn-c

Man, I appear to have been more emo than I realized. Got to say I'm in the same camp as Lamp when it comes to Sunny Day Real Estate, that's a frickin great album and I still listen to it despite being a dance music dork for the most part. How about middle period At The Drive In, like Vaya?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyeRkWO9CY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGj3g6f72Rg&feature=related

Also I can't believe how much I listened to this in high school.

Ixnay on the eventy-evensay, J.

Felldown: Can't talk about the label because the contracts aren't signed yet, but there are plans for a very fantastic and beautiful box set as well as a single-cd sampler for non-obsessives. The label is someone we are very happy to be dealing with. (If you would, as a personal favor to someone who may or may not be C0lin M33d3r, not copy and make available what Ken sent you, I would be much obliged. Many of those mixes will be cleaned up even more for the official release.) The Crabtowne comp would be worth looking and trading for, I think, but not worth paying big money for. The bands Strictly Prohibited and Images make it clear that Moss Icon didn't really come from nowhere, and the Hated tunes show our origins as a joke band.

re: angel hair

i loved (still love) anasarca - a dc band who's entire discog from 94-97 was like 7 songs (not the euro? metal band). whenever i mention i like them someone's all "blah blah blah angel hair was sooo much better" but i could never really get into angel hair, didn't think they were as melodic of what i heard and never saw a reason to compare them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gperskH7SM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM36Cmfbrrc

Thanks Colin/Not Colin! I definitely won't share the cdrs. At the time Ken alluded to them being a placeholder of sorts, and I've always treated them as such.

Good call on the early ATDI - I'll add early Alkaline Trio and Smoking Popes

ha I used to love Smoking Popes. I think I first saw them open for Morrissey in 1998 ish.

Perversely, I listen to both the whacked-out noisy end of 90s emo and commercial major label 00s emo-pop but never really got into the indie pop-rock stuff in the middle (most of the stuff on this thread). I should probably give it more of a chance. I remember Braid sounding all right.

aw man great thread

how has no one mentioned ALKALINE TRIO

esp give their key role as a bridge between 3rd (?) and 4th (?) wave. or as proto-screamo.

oh i see they were literally mentioned like 3 posts ago, carry on

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

also what about hey mercedes? everynight fire works is as good as any braid album imo/iirc. guess its not really 'canon'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLsDzmqoVrQ

their first ep was better than EFW. i guess "old" braid fans hated hey mercedes but i always thought they were great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asJi57AQck

I mis-identified "Pride and Confusion" as "Lighthouse". Dudes who have a copy of the Everysong vinyl probably knew that already.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

― max, Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:08 AM (1 hour ago)

I'm not one to get in debates about what is or isn't emo, but Background is one of the sweater-iest emo albums ever. The stuff from the last lineup was definitely poppier. Great band, regardless.

i dont think lifetime, who fuckin slay, are emo, tbh.

undue influence they had over saves the day makes me want to include them but i kind of agree

lifetime rules. they def added an emo vibe to new jersey hardcore.

I haven't really chimed in on this thread yet, and most (all?) of the bands I would nominate for canonization have already been mentioned, but can I just say HOW HAPPY I AM THAT THIS IS HAPPENING??

btw 4-minute mile gets my vote for emo-est emo in all of emodom. nobody, before or after, can touch those guys when it comes to non-threatening screaming

literally the only thing wrong with that album is that it doesn't have "I'm A Loner Dottie, A Rebel" on it, and if I want to hear it I have to go listen to the overproduced-but-still-decent second album

Owls!

dunno, I've tried regetting into all of the guk and it sounds kinda dated. can still hang with std.

I don't know if I would call Owls emo but that album is fucking great regardless.

xpost the only std I've successfully enjoyed in the last 5 years is the debut album—I think I burned out on the rest a loooong time ago

Are Squirrel Bait proto-emo?

xpost lol u enjoyed an std

guys the drums on this song!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6IOdBCeias

okay forgive me guys but I had to do this: hilarious pfork time capsule in 3, 2, 1...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3433-eudora/
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3430-something-to-write-home-about/