the emo canon

my missus is all about this stuff

find myself quite partial to braid frame and canvas

cant remember if it's save the day or get up kids i cant abide, probably both tbf

Has anyone agreed on when 3rd wave emo started? im not sure you can really say the get up kids are 3rd wave when they started the same time as some 2nd wave bands!

Anyway I'll rep for Something to Write Home About all day long. and promise ring too

im not sure you can really say the get up kids are 3rd wave when they started the same time as some 2nd wave bands!

eh i rope them in b/c take this to your grave is essentially a tribute to four minute mile

anyway at gunpoint i'd say third wave began with something to write home about and through being cool in '99

probably also an argument to be made for 2001-2002 with your favorite weapon and tell all your friends

i only ever dabbled in this stuff so i wont argue, but in my mind they were 2nd wave but it hardly matters.

i forgot how much i liked still life!

i should go listen to them again

van pelt y'all

were you ever in to Three Mile Pilot?

ive never even heard of them! this thread has been super informative cuz i was at best a dabbler in late emo i just had all the bright eyes cds i mean all the bright eyes cds

texas is the reason is otm i was trying and failing to remember them last nite

[if I started posting like Mohinder and Angel Hair youtubes or whatever it would effectively ruin the thread right

Not for me.

i will rep for the 1st 3 bright eyes albums and commander venus. And anyone who hates Desaparecidos can fuck off!

I already knew and liked "Everysong" but I was glad for the other two Hated links!

AG otm, Desaparecidos is easily the best thing Oberst has ever done (and I'm likely more of his stan than anyone else on this board) and I keep hoping the rumors of another album come true one of these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZtgoTQRH4c

i was rocking dashboard in the car this week. saints + sailors, vindicated... no screaming infidelities tho, or hands down.

i like some of his more recent stuff too - belle of blvd is not bad, thick as thieves, get me right was a jam

(Angel Hair - Pregnant with the Senior Class = classic for me)

oh man Lampski you gotta hear this record:

http://i.imgur.com/w26gk.jpg

def too post-rock/post-hardcore/almost proggy to be emo canon but def of the same universe.

and they covered eno!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yzp7lszaO0

it's the dudes who went on to form Black Heart Procession

also big up Desciparecidos

On the very tip of the post-rock end of the spectrum I nominate Juno's This is the Way it Goes and Goes and Goes.

(for reference:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYLbCH08OI

+1 for saves the day - stay what you are
jawbreaker - dear you was also a pretty big album for me+my emo friends

i might also mention that i was getting some SERIOUS late 90s emo vibes from Abe Vigoda when i saw em live a couple years back

FAIRWEATHER!

their last album Lusitania was killer!

it's the dudes who went on to form Black Heart Procession

and Pinback too.

this song seems like your steez kind of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsWGydETxc

I missed the boat on all this stuff and knew a bunch of college radio guys who were like five to ten years younger than me (I just turned 38) who were way into a lot of the bands mentioned here.

I've since listened to a lot of these records out of curiosity as I respect the tastes of a lot of these people, but nothing ever really clicked for me though I don't really hate any of it. I think you had to be into it at a certain point in your life, probably like a lot stuff I loved when I was 18 or whatever.

This really isn't my wheelhouse, especially considering how vocal I was about my hatred for MANY of these bands at the time. Still, glad to see at least one person threw a bone to Samiam.

Man, Three Mile Pilot is another band that I ... like, totally would have checked out if the Internet in 1999 were like it is now. Heard their praises plenty. But yeah, I'm really digging that. I'm a Pinback fan, though, so.

Two more late Hated songs, because I underrepresented Erik:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1r4-_3c7M

That's "Lighthouse" and "Miggy's Delight". The Miggy's Delight take is a very early one where I am still learning the song and writing the bassline, and from the unstoppable 8th notes thing I have going on, Ken the drummer was probably smoked out at that session and I was mostly trying to keep the tempo from sloooooowing.

Oh damn that Promise Ring show I'm going to is next weekend not next month. I gotta brush up on some of this stuff before the show. It's been a while. Thanking everyone for The Hated vids btw.

i was hoping for more rainer maria love on this thread

x-post Or TWU specifically as it turns out - so good!

On the very tip of the post-rock end of the spectrum I nominate Juno's This is the Way it Goes and Goes and Goes.

― Simon H., Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:50 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

love this record

Just drumming up business for the reissue. My cat's gotta eat. :)

but not too much

Jejune, Lifetime, Seaweed, Joan of Arc, Pedro the Lion

Ha this is a fair summary of my download directory from the first month of finally getting on Napster in 1999 and typing in all the band names I'd picked up from the past couple of years of American magazines, webzines and mailing lists.

I think this stuff mostly just missed the time in my life when I would really have fallen hard for it, but I have much love for Jawbreaker still, and it led me to great not-emo bands such as Sweep the Leg Johnny (on an Emo Diaries comp!), Pele (on Polyvinyl), Pinback, etc. Looking forward to checking out all the youtubes on this thread later for a mix of 10% nostalgia and 90% "so that's what I missed"

violent femmes - s/t

Colin (or not Colin),

Can you confirm yet whether or not the discography's going to be on NumeroGroup? I understand they did a beautiful job on the Codeine box, so it's super exciting if true. I bought the home made discography cdrs from Ken (Spastic Rats cdr too) and while I'm glad he did them he put like zero effort into the packaging. Can't wait for the proper reissue.

I know the Crabtowne compilation cassette is like impossible to find, but is it worth seeking out? I like you guys and Spastic Rats and Christ on a Crutch, but I've never heard of the rest of the bands so they're a mystery to me.

Another great thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym7qbQHn-c

Man, I appear to have been more emo than I realized. Got to say I'm in the same camp as Lamp when it comes to Sunny Day Real Estate, that's a frickin great album and I still listen to it despite being a dance music dork for the most part. How about middle period At The Drive In, like Vaya?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyeRkWO9CY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGj3g6f72Rg&feature=related

Also I can't believe how much I listened to this in high school.

Ixnay on the eventy-evensay, J.

Felldown: Can't talk about the label because the contracts aren't signed yet, but there are plans for a very fantastic and beautiful box set as well as a single-cd sampler for non-obsessives. The label is someone we are very happy to be dealing with. (If you would, as a personal favor to someone who may or may not be C0lin M33d3r, not copy and make available what Ken sent you, I would be much obliged. Many of those mixes will be cleaned up even more for the official release.) The Crabtowne comp would be worth looking and trading for, I think, but not worth paying big money for. The bands Strictly Prohibited and Images make it clear that Moss Icon didn't really come from nowhere, and the Hated tunes show our origins as a joke band.

re: angel hair

i loved (still love) anasarca - a dc band who's entire discog from 94-97 was like 7 songs (not the euro? metal band). whenever i mention i like them someone's all "blah blah blah angel hair was sooo much better" but i could never really get into angel hair, didn't think they were as melodic of what i heard and never saw a reason to compare them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gperskH7SM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM36Cmfbrrc

Thanks Colin/Not Colin! I definitely won't share the cdrs. At the time Ken alluded to them being a placeholder of sorts, and I've always treated them as such.

Good call on the early ATDI - I'll add early Alkaline Trio and Smoking Popes

ha I used to love Smoking Popes. I think I first saw them open for Morrissey in 1998 ish.

Perversely, I listen to both the whacked-out noisy end of 90s emo and commercial major label 00s emo-pop but never really got into the indie pop-rock stuff in the middle (most of the stuff on this thread). I should probably give it more of a chance. I remember Braid sounding all right.

aw man great thread

how has no one mentioned ALKALINE TRIO