reading the rhapsodic descriptions of the song's production and it's "groundbreaking" construction in "Shakey" just made me wonder if I was listening to a different song
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
(re: Expecting to Fly)
Wow, much lower than I expected. As much as I love "After the Gold Rush," I always found the cheers when Neil sings "And I felt like gettin' high" on the (otherwise great) Live Rust version to be a stadium rock nadir.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ no way, you're thinking of the rasta jive blackface routine during Cortez
Never cared much for ohio or expecting to fly....ohio has a good riff
I honestly could have put about all of tonights the night on, but those were the three I had
albuquerques opening line is one of those classic neil lines that really affects me and I couldn't say why:
And they sayThat Santa FeIs less than 90 miles away
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil7.jpg
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
I dunno if I would say "This Note's For You" is better per se (I wouldn't put it in the top 10 Neil songs or anything) but it's certainly more fun to listen to than "Expecting to Fly", at least in my case
the legendary and mysterious land of Santa Fe... Neil should maybe look at a map sometime lol
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)
but yeah I love it too, great song
He was fumbling around for his car keys when he wrote that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)
i'm not a big fan of the song. perhaps a kneejerk reaction to the idea of the title track of a guy's first album released after becoming really famous featuring morose talk of radio interviews.
The thing is, Neil was bitching about being famous BEFORE he was famous (See: Buffalo Springfield, "Out of My Mind")
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)
Which it's disappointing that neil doesn't do tell me went cuz he doesn't know what it's about, I consider that maybe the hallmark of his great songwriting, this weird ambiguity
It's when he's real literal - this notes for you - is when he sucks
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)
I think I can "sing" every last guitar note in "Cowgirl."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)
so am I right in expecting that "Cowgirl" vs. "Down by The River" is pretty much a Veronica/Betty thing?......my girl lost!
― theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)
Jughead = "Last Trip to Tulsa"?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)
Btw I felt the title tracks to everybody knows kind of slipped by with out enough praise for being a to ten guitar rock song ever, far too lowLove cowgirl, but now prefer the fillmore vers of that & down by the river slightly
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think any great ”lost” reissue thing lived up to my expectations like fillmore
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)
thx for reminding me to pull out that Fillmore record more often, that one is really good
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)
yeah when i want to hear cowgirl, i go to the fillmore version. neil is so amazing there that he completely forgot how to play guitar like that for about five years.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)
The original is so much a part of my DNA at this point, I don't think it'd be possible for me to prefer another version, but I have Fillmore, so I'll give it another listen.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah ever since getting the Fillmore disc I never play the album versions of the guitar epics - don't even know if I remember them that well! Do they have anything quite like Nitzsche's electric piano lurking at the bottom of the mix?
― boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)
I'm hoping Veronica is next. Can't stand either of 'em personally, although I do like the Low & Dirty 3 cover of "River".
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think any great ”lost” reissue thing lived up to my expectations like fillmore OTM
The Cowgirl solo is a thing of rare and powerful beauty.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)
Last performance: 2011-05-11, Massey Hall, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
One of my big surprises researching covers was finding the Byrds' version of "Cowgirl."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
Cowgirl was at 34 for me, while DBTR was at 32. Guess I'm a little burnt on both of them, but I will absolutely take a live version of either over the studio cuts.
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil6.jpg
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
the intro to studio "Cowgirl" works v v well for kicking off late-night college radio, though--live versions can't match it!
― theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
TOO LOW!!!
Had this at, um, #6. :-)
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)
The "ma, send me money now" verse coming out of nowhere one of the greatest imaginative/intuitive leaps ever, I think.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
ha, i cut CG, because i figured it'd be high anyway. but what a great song/riff. Byrds' version of "Cowgirl" is really nice!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
"Cinnamon Girl" was my #1. I love the song, but it was also a nickname I gave to my wife two years before we started dating. That was 20 years ago. Damn.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
Much more poetic than if you'd gone with "Motorcycle Mama."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
Ah, some of mine are placing now. The intro to Cowgirl is all-time - so ominous yet inevitable.
On The Beach was my no.1. My first exposure was in a documentary when bbc4 ran a Neil Young night. It had this soundtrack full of incredible tunes I didn't know, which turned out to mostly be OTB cuts, so its non-availability was a huge factor for me.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)
Everyone familiar with the alternate "single" mix of CG? Anyone prefer it?
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know about the mix, but I assume the single eliminates the coda? Or do AM deejays just end it earlier?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, with whitten's vocals more prominent? it's aight. here's another interesting alternatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyK00lIRxUo
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
I have the single. It's...innarresting. Loses the guitar erruption at the end. Overall, not as good as the album cut.
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
"Cinnamon Girl" crossed with "Sea of Madness"...I like!
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
yeah it's kinda groovy.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil5.jpg
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
On another borad I used to be on, someone had the handle "Cinnamon Girl". Everyone assumed she was a Neil fan, but she said she chose that moniker because she likes cinnamon and had never even heard of the Neil Young song until everyone asked her about it
― Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
Now this one I don't really get.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
Love the dancing "Road Eyes" in this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWHF27R0AA
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
Disregard all my skepticism about On the Beach when it comes to this one.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
man you guys REALLY overrate side 2 of OTB
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, man...the Road Eyes danced to "Cinnamon Girl" at that '78 show I saw. Neil wore exactly the same outfit, too.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)
Who are you, Al Schmitt?
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)
"Ambulance Blues" was my number two!
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)
I have no idea who that is, so probably not
xp
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)
impossible to overrate side 2 of on the beach imo
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)