And a Christmas album.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
I'm 10/40, but my ballot was heavy on the canon, so I expect the percentage will go up in the last third.
ditto, though i'm wondering if any post-rust could crack the top 25 at this point. i remember clemenza spoiling early on nothing was past 30 or so, and i could see the ragged glory hits all canceling each other out, but "rockin' in the free world" has yet to show up.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2zTw7Krs0
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Up to 12/30 now (I think) and about another 10 should make it...will be kind of bummed if "Natural Beauty" and "Journey Through the Past" don't place though.
― recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
I thought "Razor Love" would be a shoe-in, guess not?
― boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
'Danger Bird' and 'Out on the Weekend' were both in my top 10, great to see them here.
I heard Decade long before On The Beach so it was weird hearing 'Walk On' as a taste of what I'd heard was such a downer of an album.
I can really hear the 'Winterlong'/Big Star comparisons, it's in the guitar sound.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
compositionally it bears a lot of resemblances to Big Star as well, imho - the chiming, ascending guitar line, complimented by the descending "come back now, come back now, whoah" vocal melody at the end of the phrase - Chilton totally used that trick.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i doubt it really was an "a&r wants a single" situation but that's how it feels on OTB after knowing it far longer from decade
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
i know you guys are all really interested my prairie wind liveblog
but this album is pretty damn slight
it's all a dream is nice
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
i'll revisit Prairie Wind before Silver & Gold and Are You Passionate but I'm not in a rush
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah prairie wind has a nice sound, but there's something lacking in the songwriting.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't seen Hawks & Doves mentioned...how is it generally regarded among Neilophiles?
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
has its fans, but i don't think there's a consensus fave track (if there is I know it's not the one i voted for)
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
i voted for little wing, almost voted for lost in space.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
I like Hawks & Doves quite a bit, - picked it as one of my fave album covers and voted for "Little Wing." "Union Man" is pretty great too. "The gentleman said ... bumper stickers should be issued!"
― boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i've had the theory that had neil taken the first side of hawks n doves and the best tracks from reactor, he'd have a rust-like masterpiece. maybe?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I've been listening to H&D a lot the last few days. "This Old Homestead" is a weird lyric set to "For The Turnstiles"-OTB chords.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
*The
that first side is such a hodgepodge, though. said it on the voting thread but I think the album's sort of American Stars'n'Bars II - one side country, one side a '70s grab-bag, just without a "Like A Hurricane." I voted for the title track, as I've got a soft spot for psycho patriot Neil.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
I only heard H&D once or twice 20 years ago before listening to it again the other day. The slight songs are kinda fun, but otm re: best of H&D + best of Re Ac Tor = More Rust.
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
that sorta ploy would probably strike neil as too obvious, but it'd work!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
I think around 5/30.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'm at, I should say.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I always knew Neil from classic rock stations and thought he was alright but the first time I was like "whoah this guy is rad" was in college, when a friend of mine was giving a slide show. he had recently returned from a p legit mountaineering trip to Nepal and played "walk on" as sort of an outro over a series of pictures and it was so different from old man and other MOR ny stuff that it twigged something for me. I was already a huge fan of the built to spill cover of Cortez but had never really put two and two together.
thank you based neil
also kinda tempted to go to cheapo and buy all of the ny vinyl they have, I'm missing so much
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
and not that anyone cares but my current attending physician (basically my boss) has turned out to be a massive neil fan. we were on the way to d0rothy d4y (for u MNans) and he str8 blasted cinnamon girl the whole time, it was a ~moment~
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
hutlock must be on diaper duty today.
Has anyone started a Spotify list yet? If so, how are we dealing with TFA songs -- are there any bad covers or live versions elsewhere?
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
crazy low ranking for danger bird! a man needs a maid beating it out by 11 spots, wtf
cool list so far though. makes me want to really dig into the post-rust stuff that i'm less familiar with.
― the sun, a great connoisseur of eggs (buh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
i made a spotify playlist of my ballot and had to say goodbye to anything from TFA, Trans or LOW
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
bummed lucky thirteen wasn't on there either
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
is lucky 13 out of print or something? that's too bad it's not even avail. on spotify. great comp, really made a case for the 80s neil when i was a kid.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
My experience with Young and album rock radio matches gbx's. I had no idea of the depth of his fantastic, weird catalog from hearing "Old Man" and "Southern Man" over and over (har). I had to read the SPIN Alternative Guide's essay and dream of the money to find an album that was the aural equivalent of watching on screen a cow entering the water and leaving.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i never got around to getting lucky 13, only song from the era that feels strikingly absent is "Prisoners"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
I found Lucky Thirteen used for cheap a couple years ago, it definitely made me more open to the idea of exploring his 80s.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
The two Old Ways inclusions did not convince though.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
Dunno why it's been hard for Neil to cut straight country records; Comes A Time is closer to a folk-country amalgam, I guess (with a little mellotron thrown in). Like Jagger he can't quite do it without smirking, although I'll take "Dead Flowers" over "Where is the Highway Tonight."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah those are still pretty dire. the stuff on a treasure is the best place for that era. lucky 13 really is decade II though, just, you know, a different kind of decade.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for this song, with this version specifically in mind, I gather it was supposed to be on Old Ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wWCXProCI
― boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
I can't exactly endorse the video, ha. What a screenshot.
― boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
Not important, but I wanted to follow up on one thing--I do think "Sugar Mountain" and "Emperor's New Clothes" are comparable:
"Ain't it funny how you feel/When you're findin' out it's real?/Oh, to live on Sugar Mountain..."
"How could I possibly know what I want when I was only twenty-one?"
Neil's past 20 and looking back at 19, O'Connor's looking back at 21, and in both cases, there's the implication that they're much older and wiser/world-wearier now. Which is kind of funny, and a small part of what I love in both songs.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/752606
so i thought maybe i should have heard the turn of phrase "a cow entering the water and leaving" before so i googled it and that's what happened
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
dunno why Weisbard didn't plan for the possibility of anal drowning.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
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― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
9/30 so far.Voted Captain Kennedy off of Hawks & Doves.And I guess no one else voted Coupe De Ville :(
― exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Since I don't think it's going to place top-25, here's a 1977 live electric version of "Little Wing" with the Ducks. I like the album version better but this is a nice complement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZAVO4VR-ME
― boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love that version (though the whispery H&D version is unbeatable). i hope neil deigns to release a Ducks show sometime, a pretty cool band. they also do a neat electric reading of "sail away".
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
But it's got Goin' Home, one of his great guitar epics. IMHO, just as good as Like A Hurricane.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
"Goin' Home" is on Are You Passionate?, the only leftover from the original version of the lp "Toast".
― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
Spotify playlist: http://open.spotify.com/user/124420673/playlist/7tIBGOFg0EDXgAz10slAJZ
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
has any boots/live/tracklist info of toast stuff come out? like goin home so much more than anything else on AYP that I'm dying to hear more
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
there are two songs he was playing with crazy horse in 2001 that I've heard: Gateway Of Love and Standing In The Light Of Love -- i assumed that these were slated for Toast. Not lost masterpieces iirc, but pretty solid.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link