Frank Ocean - Channel Orange (2012)

secret so much they call him freddy ocean

ha

The overlooked Donnie came out a few years ago -- was it around the time ('07?) of Rahsaan Patterson's "confirmation"?

silk-voiced

nabisco notm

― I'm HOOSin' out, 36 o's, so I'm drivin' round with that steena (some dude), Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:12 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

One man's silk is another man's melted-on-a-sun-baked-blacktop nougat.

and one of those men writes about R&B in a way that i enjoy reading

'thinking about you' is a great shit karaoke jam

much along the same lines of my equally pseudo-beloved 'lotus flower bomb'

ships have u perhaps lately been considering an extended rumination on the pervasive influence of n.e.r.d that dares not be acknowledged

or [falsetto] do you not think so far.... ahead

britishes dont count

^^^ Probably true. British indie dudes definitely don't, because 'British indie musician comes out' hasn't been newsworthy for decades.

ships have u perhaps lately been considering an extended rumination on the pervasive influence of n.e.r.d that dares not be acknowledged

or [falsetto] do you not think so far.... ahead

― r|t|c, Monday, July 9, 2012 11:04 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha the only reason i didn't want to talk about it in this thread is because i remember acknowledging pharrell's influence in a vaguely positive way in the miguel thread but also used it in the odd future thread as a stick to beat cedric, the entertainer's taste with

oh right yeah i forgot tyler was a massive star trak stan (trakkie?), even better

there's no way you can ever nail your flag to the mast either way tho, mixed results are surely the inherent nature of the kidult beast. the lovelorn sk8r teen into stroppy sociopath realness imbalance

i remember acknowledging pharrell's influence in a vaguely positive way in the miguel thread

Oooh, which track(s)? I never came around to "Sure Thing," but maybe I should check out his other stuff...

i think "Girls Like You" (which i love) was the main song we pinned a NERD vibe to but i think it's all over the Art Dealer Chic stuff

Cool -- suffice to say, invocations of Pharrell are not a negative thing for me.

call him post-Pharrell though.

http://potholesinmyblog.com/how-not-to-respond-to-frank-oceans-sexuality/

Do not refer to Frank as gay or bisexual.

OTM

yep.

call him post-Pharrell though.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 9, 2012 9:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://potholesinmyblog.com/how-not-to-respond-to-frank-oceans-sexuality/

Do not refer to Frank as gay or bisexual.

― frank o'sin (Eric H.), Monday, July 9, 2012 1:33 PM Bookmark

I kind of wish the order of these two posts were reversed.

A+

haw

ha!

I do feel bad for copy editors and designers trying to condense Ocean's ambiguites.

frank is on fallon tonight

i always suspected that about jimmy

al!

this is on itunes at midnight

flattered ship pulled off a dumb Alfred-style joek

Stream is up http://frankocean.tumblr.com/post/26885717440/channelorange

waiting to hear the whole thing before i make any comments but so far it's stunning stuff. on bad religion right now and really impressed.

horrible album art

oh, this shit really comes in itunes as channel ORANGE?

This is like a new album of Prince in his orime.

Um, no.

it may be like a new album of prince in his recently purchased vintage japanese textile http://orimetextiles.com/

Some great and some not-so-great stuff just like the first album, but imo the great stuff here is greater.

otm xp

Andre 3000's verse sounds like Frank called him up at 4 in the morning and said "go".

yeah, i really don't hear prince here as much as marvin and stevie

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/Frank-Ocean:-Bad-Religion/1408858

The Prince part is the combination of emotional sincerity with audacious narratives.

Just woke up from a super intense dream about Frank Ocean asking me to provide a beat for his new record.

actually got pretty excited by the rapturous praise i'd heard about this but i'm halfway through and it's really not changing my mind about frank ocean. i find his voice really flat and affectless.

That Potholes list is both OTM and practically impossible to follow for any journalist writing about this.

when i click the potholes link nothing comes up? just a blank brown page with a couple of random album covers

obv this is moot now the album's out there but i felt a bit uncomfortable at how the talk about frank ocean's sexuality refused to die down, from every conceivable angle. expected and maybe even understandable, i was just thinking back to when i came out and how i felt the worst thing would be people making it into a massive deal when it wasn't - the idea of people constantly talking about it and analysing it (ie gossiping) was a bit of a nightmare. i really sympathise with him over that.

this album is just getting dull now though, "pyramids" really stood out as a highlight and i didn't even love it that much

I'm really enjoying it. it's so much jazzier than I expected, rhodesy and loose. there's something almost jarring about the songs oscillating between sung choruses and spoken portions, lists being reeled off, but it's pretty commanding. like almost a Gil Scott-Heron kinda thing?, the vocabulary of it, not that I think it sounds like a Gil record (actually Monks just started, this totally sounds like a Gil record!).

fallon performance is grrrreat.

obv this is moot now the album's out there but i felt a bit uncomfortable at how the talk about frank ocean's sexuality refused to die down

well...it's been six days

Haven't listened to it, but apparently there's a sample from La Jetee which, if so, <3 this man so much.

Hmm...so far I'm kinda with lex, though more positively inclined. Still I think a lot is being hugely read into this now as opposed to this leaping out on its own merits. "Sierra Leone" and "Super Rich Kids" are cool. Jody Rosen said something last night about how this is like seventies Marvin in terms of taking a basic groove and making a song out of it through force of performance and that's not inaccurate but it's also not as remarkable as it could be.

Except Marvin was one of the greatest singers ever and Ocean... isn't.

A key fucking distinction!