Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

Is somebody paying you to say this? Bootlegging has always been one of the most satisfying things about being a fan. Even/especially when you buy a shitty-sounding bootleg (Lou Reed's Blondes Have More Fun!, Australia ca. 1974), there's a great rite-of-passage feeling to entering the realm of psycho-fanhood where you're buying records you know are sub-par that you'll never listen to just because you have to own them. If not for bootlegging, how boring would it have been to be a Joy Division fan in 1985? Bootlegging=fanhood, labels & bands oppose it because they smell money that they're not getting...not because of any "artistic integrity" questions or anything.

...as the googlers always want me to add: "that's just my opinion" ;)

Although, at the time it came out, I thought the breakdown section of "What Would You Say" was kinda cool.

I kinda don't like the way their shows are supposed to be these huge improv spectacles, when in reality they pretty much just trade solos. I've honestly seen more adventurous improv interplay at Roots shows, Sonic Youth shows, even They Might Be Giants shows.

I don't exactly hate them on a Limp Bizkit/Creed actually-makes-me-sick-to-my-stomach level, I just don't particularly like their style of writing/improvising.

Carter Beauford, howevah, I must say is quite a drummer. I think it would be cool if he quit and joined Fishbone. :D

Au contraire, my vehement Canuck. Some argue that everything I've ever written was just one giant typo, but that wasn't my point. I was merely commenting on the exquisite irony of you decrying our collective ignorance, yet mispelling the word in the process. And it wasn't a typo, it was a misspelling (you did it twice).

Hitler had a lot of fans too.

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Phish sold almost a million tickets to "The Great Went" in 1998. Something tells me this wouldn't happen to a band if people didn't like listening to them.

Maybe those people just don't know any better.

As for your comment about Phish's fans not knowing any better - that is a weak comment coming from someone who in MY opinion doesn't know any better either.

I am also curious to know, since you're so cynical about DMB, as well as other great bands such as U2, Phish, Pearl Jam and Counting Crows...what is it that YOU listen to? And I'm sure you would feel quite justifyed in defending them if I were to insult not only their music, but their very existance?

Cheers yet again,
Gracie

Happens here all the time, Gracie. Alex knows how to handle it, though. ;-)

I am all against jerk CD stores who care nothing about the integrity of the band, nothing about the integrity of the music, have crappy recordings that they way overcharge, and screw the fans for. Bootlegging screws the fans in and of the fact that jerks go to shows, tape it, and then sell it for $60 to some shmuck who thinks he can't get it anywhere else.

Live Music trading: Yes
Bootlegging (ie jerks making money off me, who care nothing about what i feel, they just want a buck): No
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Cheers,
Gracie

I don't know who brought Hitler into this debate first, sister, but it wasn't me. My invokation of the man (after your comment) was only to demonstrate that love of the masses doesn't necessarily equate a good thing.

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here, here. trade at will, buyer beware.

i hope this thread will continue into ferever...
dmb is noodling on a cosmic level. and yes, phish do it better, but you know what, it's still boring as fuck. there's very few people whom i even want to hear solo for 10-15 minutes. dmb being at the very bottom of this imaginary list. right next to someone i really dislike less.
if dm is so "anti boot" why is there a thousand boots floating around that sound startlingly similar? oh, wait, nevermind...

gracie, i feel for ya. like i feel for the old dead heads. slightly sorry, slightly jealous that i can't dig what it is you like, but then i feel a little better because of it- it's taste. got it? good.
get it.

sounds like a commercial...

Everything else is completely worthless and unnecessary.

-- Dan Perry (djperr...), February 12th, 2003.

You must be kidding me. These are some of his not so great songs. I am a huge fan of the Dave Matthews band. I am not a jock, or in college or a yuppie or any of the stupid things that you people have listed so far. Feel free to dislike the music and state your opinion as such....but leave me the hell out of it..........and I have yet to see anyone discuss what types of music they DO like..........

As nobody recalls forcing you to be here, quit your complaining and come back with a brain, please.

I mean, christ, post porn, stroke Calz' cock, I mean, ego - ANYTHING - under my name, but do NOT accuse me of being a DMB fan.

"There was a point a couple of years ago where I said, 'Man, I'm just going to do it,'" says Tinsley. "This album is just a natural extension of who I am as a musician and really a natural extension of the Dave Matthews Band, too. For me, it was just an individual journey to just open up a whole other world of music that I hadn't really explored before, like songwriting and singing. The whole experience has just made me a better musician."

Longtime DMB fans will recognize the title track, which Tinsley he wrote prior to joining the band in 1991. It has been a DMB concert staple ever since. Considering the song's history, Tinsley says there was little debate about asking Matthews himself to contribute vocals to the track.

However, Matthews is the only DMB member on Tinsley's disc. For the other material on the 11-song album, Tinsley spent the past year writing (and co-writing with guitarist/songwriter Chris Bruce) and recording. Joining him in the studio were guests Lisa Germano, Doyle Bramhall II, the Dirty Dozen Brass Band, and Corey Harris, among others.

After DMB's summer tour wraps in September, Tinsley plans on hitting the road in support of "True Reflections" with as many of his studio musicians as possible.

"We're just going to have fun -- we've never had a chance to play this music live before," says Tinsley. "And when you play songs live, they continue to grow and evolve and get stronger and better. So, I'm just looking forward to seeing how these songs are going to develop on the road."

Solo projects are a running theme in the DMB camp these days. As previously reported, Matthews' "Some Devil" will be released in the fall. While he hasn't heard the disc yet, Tinsley believes frequent DMB contributor Tim Reynolds is "probably heavily involved."

"Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated."
How can a band be hated if millions buy their albums and go to their concerts? Are U2/Beatles/Bowie/Led Zep bad & hated in your parallel universe too?
As for listening only to bands on major labels, whats up with that? Being on a label is irrelevent to the actual music.

I like imagining that in Josie's universe she hates nothing, since someone else somewhere probably loves it. A very trusting and open-minded soul.

Make them stop teasing me.

um...no. i'd like his money, and that's where it ends.
i don't think i could live with myself knowing that a couple thousand date-rapes occurred to/because of my music...
ok, maybe that's a bit far fetched, but, you get the point. if i'm jealous of anything about dave's, it's his bank account. period.

onto the better fish that need fryin-
"How can a band be hated if millions buy their albums and go to their concerts? Are U2/Beatles/Bowie/Led Zep bad & hated in your parallel universe too?
As for listening only to bands on major labels, whats up with that? Being on a label is irrelevent to the actual music."

ahem,
it was stated before, no taste. that's how. the mindless asses that make up the record buying public account for 7/8 of the industry. no accounting for tastes, i suppose...
btw- the beatles...OVER-RATED.
zep- good, to a point then start backsliding.
U2- ditto. but, please, none of the mid 80's U2. damn those overly political stances...
bowie- can't slag a man that keeps contemporary. even at his worst, he's still a far cry better than most ever get. including DAVE.

for those that just skip the top of this post, here's reader's digest version...
DMB STILL BLOWS BAGS OF DICK THROUGH THE SACK.
case closed, holmes.

How can I be jealous of something I think is shit?

how dare you put down a group of musicians for displaying their talent?

Precisely.

You 'music fans' here can keep your alternative rock rubbish like Nirvana , Pearl jam , Sonic Youth and Pixies and leave the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide.

That's the idea, I think.