Dream Syndicate

yeah i got all of those live performances from archive.org -- gotta be a pretty complete collection of dream syndicate tapes.
kendra definitely needs some kind of box set thing. does anyone have her phone #.

haha, given her last address was a cabin with no electricity...

pony express stop then

Hurm. Heard a rumor that Wynn was planning on touring DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES again. Don't know if even Dunn was joining him this time around or not.

I should slot that recent live set that Tyler posted. One can never have too much early DS.

Also potentially of interest: http://highway62.tumblr.com/post/26083888051/last-days-of-may-eponymous-debut-album-released

Which is Karl Precoda interviewed by yrs truly in 1997 after the release of the first Last Days of May record on No-Fi records, a heavily truncated version of which was printed in PTOLEMAIC TERRASCOPE. So heavily truncated, in fact, as to bear little resemblance to the original behemoth.

Last I heard, Kendra Smith was off the grid in northern California. That was not long before she performed at Terrastock 2 in 1997 or 1998. If someone tracks her down, I'll drive out to talk to her about issuing an omnibus. The GUILD OF TEMPORAL ADVENTURERS disc is pretty essential, much more so than FIVE WAYS OF DISAPPEARING (the 4AD LP).

Guy Khyser still lives in Davis and last I'd heard, he was performing in a bluegrass band (with Roger Kunkel, also of TWR) after folding the Mummy Dogs. Not sure if that's still happening or not.

The upcoming _DoW&R_ tour (tourlet?) is Wynn, Jason Victor, Mark Walton, and Dennis Duck.

Will check out Tyler's set also, thanks for posting.

Duck for Dunn. Hilarious.

And hello, Jeff. Long time no see.

European tour announced (plus that 1 US date) with this lineup:

The band’s current lineup features singer/guitarist Wynn and drummer Dennis Duck, the two members who spanned the group’s entire seven-year career as well as bassist Mark Walton, who was in the band for its final two records and nearly all of their US and world tours. Guitarist Jason Victor who has played with Wynn in the Miracle 3 since 2001 will round out the 21st Century lineup.

THE DREAM SYNDICATE - TOUR SCHEDULE:
MAY 23 HET DEPOT / LEUVEN, BELGIUM
MAY 24 DINGWALL’S / LONDON, ENGLAND
MAY 25 ROCKEFELLER’S / OSLO, NORWAY
MAY 26 STADTGARDEN / COLOGNE, GERMANY
MAY 28 BEACHES BREW FEST / RAVENNA, ITALY
MAY 29 BLOOM / MEZZAGO (MILAN), ITALY
MAY 30 MYLOS / THESSALONIKI, GREECE
MAY 31 STAGE / LARISSA, GREECE
JUNE 1 GAGARIN / ATHENS, GREECE
JUNE 22 SOLID SOUND FESTIVAL / NORTH ADAMS, MA

Oops, that's the same lineup as Jeff W posted last July 2012

Been interviewing people from all the main PU groups for a piece pegged to this. During the course of which I discovered that my daughter and Sid Griffin's daughter are science partners at school.

amazing! sid has always seemed like a grand fellow when i've seen him play

i'd go see this if it was anywhere near me. even though jason victor wasn't in the band, he's been a pretty awesome guitarist when I've seen him with wynn.

I am seriously contemplating going to this. Feel a bit sad sometimes that I go to so many damn reunion gigs though.

I've heard such great things about Wynn live lately that I wonder why they even bothered calling this a Dream Syndicate reunion.

tbf they are playing the first album in full

All the more reason, if they don't have the line-up from the first album. I mean, 3/4 of the VU is still alive, but if Cale and Reed did it without Mo, it wouldn't be the VU. Or if Mo and Reed did it without Cale, etc.

yeah, it's probably just that "Steve Wynn Plays The Music of Dream Syndicate (featuring members of Dream Syndicate)" wasn't setting promoters on fire.

More like, Steve Wynn owns the name "Dream Syndicate" and can do what he wants, and Kendra et al. don't care.

i'm sure kendra is writing a strongly worded letter to the media on papyrus leaves as we speak.

no. no. no. if ever an album was mind-blowing, it's this one.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 07:09

what she said

i'm sure kendra is writing a strongly worded letter to the media on papyrus leaves as we speak.

And I'm sure Mr. Precoda is frantically searching his apartment for his one-hitter.

And I'm sure Mr. Precoda is frantically searching his apartment for his one-hitter.

Don't be so sure about that: http://www.theatrecinema.vt.edu/About/People/_bios/bio_KarlPrecoda.html

I saw that, well done, Karl. But, it's still very possible.

I've got the expanded debut, Medicine Show and the "Tell Me When It's Over" best-of, all of which I think are great. How does "Out Of The Grey" and "Ghost Stories" compare? Are the best bits on the comp? Lastly, is "Live At Rajis" as good as its rep?

LIVE AT RAJI'S is a solid set from that era of DS. But it's not the early DS freakouts. Pretty tight, no slack in sight. Worth buying if you like that period.

Man, I haven't listened to OUT OF THE GREY in likely decades, but I still love "Boston" for Culver's guitar.

Out of the Grey is worth having, but I never warmed up to Ghost Stories.

Question: If one has the single-disk Raji's is the expanded set worth getting?

And finally, there is a live set called Live from Studio Z (Sep, 1982) that's excellent. I thought it was on CD at one point, but I only see Wolfgang's Vault now ($5 download, definately worth it).

DS live at Studio Z

It is on CD, called The Day Before Wine And Roses, on Atavistic. And it's in my living room.

There's some great live recordings up on archive.org too:
http://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.lateshow
http://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.earlyshow
http://archive.org/details/ds1982-03-26.flac16

(there's more, just dig around)

DS doing the Ghostbusters theme.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/sevens_cover_versions_of_ghostbusters_from_the_dream_syndicates_1984_tour

The show last night was quite good. High energy and nice full room. Added bonus, they played only songs from the 1st two records. (And a cover.)

as much as i hate to admit it, the bonus stuff on the new Days of Wine & Roses reissue makes it worth getting... of course, you'll have to hold on to the old reissue too!
really think the original lineup would be nicely served by a box set, w/ the album proper plus live stuff, singles, rehearsals, etc...

Sounds good, why don't you get on that Tyler!

What's on the bonus disc? Saw the reissue today but assumed it was live tracks or something else I don't need.

Speaking of live tracks, how was that The Day After The Days Of Wine and Roses or whatever the live CD was called that was released last year?

Day Before is lovely, several long guitar workouts.
Shame the new Days of doesn't have the e.p. anymore. At least I do have the very old separate cd of that I think, though don't remember the last time I saw it.

here's the hype on the bonus stuff

Calling on the band’s long time archivist Pat Thomas (previously producer of reissues of four other titles from the Dream Syndicate), the previous “bonus tracks” from the 2001 Rhino CD have been replaced with a slew of never-before-heard songs and/or recordings that capture the first year of the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory. These are rehearsal tapes that capture a pair of songs that later turned up on the Medicine Show. Longtime fans have often wondered what it would have sounded like had Kendra Smith stayed in the band for its second full-length album. Now the band’s followers will know: these versions don’t possess the ’70s FM rock sound that Medicine Show had. Instead, they sound like Television’s Marque Moon LP. The four other bonus tracks included in this new version are four original, vintage Dream Syndicate songs that nobody outside the band has ever heard, including a nearly 10-minute Kraut-rock-inspired jam!

might be a bit hyperbolic there, haha, but i can't get enough of this lineup of the band.

dammit they are pushing my Kendra Smith buttons, bastards

the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory

Yes!

Oh dip

The Rhino DoW&R (with the ep, rehearsal tracks, and the 15 Minutes single as bonus material) is going for $75 on Amazon.

wow, crazy!
so yeah, a definitive days of wine & roses box set would be

15 minutes single
EP
early rehearsal tracks
day before wine & roses
days of wine & roses
post-days of wine & roses live collection
post-days of wine & roses rehearsals

in all their low-fi glory

would definitely buy tyler's proposed box set though, in a heartbeat

I'm also one of those loonies who really likes Medicine Show

I love "Medicine Show" too!

yeah i was just listening to that one -- love it, but i really do think of it as an almost totally different band.

which is crazy since they just lost the bassist, but still ...

You can still get a lot of the live stuff at archive.org though can't you?
I don't know why I never got around to getting the Rhino remaster. I had both the lp and the e.p. as separate cds might be why.
I also have Day Before which I love. But haven't listened to in way too long.
Actually surprised nothing from it has popped up on the old walkman i went back to since the more recent one died, I think I have the whole cd on there.

yeah more than 200 shows up on archive.org. hadn't seen that there were some of the reunion shows up.

This thread sent me down the Dream Syndicate wormhole this evening - thank you. Is it really such heresy that I dig 'Out of the Grey' a lot?

Weathered and Torn (3½, The Lost Tapes 85-88)

The Dream Syndicate's lost album, recorded in Los Angeles between their third and fourth official albums and featuring Chris Cacavas of Green on Red

150-gram vinyl in gatefold sleeve; limited to 500 copies.