http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ONxUdkyOL._SS500_.jpg
― I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit that's out already? sign me up
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
ASS SOUL: THE DIARY OF ME
― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
really nice, thoughtful piece at the nyer on this:http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/08/r-kellys-revealing-auto-hagiography.html
i've never read all that much about him, so didn't know even some of the sadder, biographical details. i can't remember if the book's out, is anyone reading?
― , Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
was going to post something in the comments, but it looks like the first guy already called him out:
Correction: Bidget's husband isn't a midget. She cheats on her husband with a midget.
book came out last month. dunno why I haven't ordered it yet.
― frogbs, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
new song is good : https://soundcloud.com/r-kellyofficial/r-kelly-genius
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:35 (eleven years ago) link
Its v nice
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/e-ps0kIkRg/
― LinkedIn Beef (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Everyone itt should vote in this:HAPPY PEOPLE COME AND POLL IN THE NAME OF LOVE — R. Kelly artist poll
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 24 October 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sysrLIWoDpE
― flopson, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
http://www.gq.com/story/r-kelly-confessions
― johnny crunch, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:34 (eight years ago) link
Given that a lot of people believe that the video shows you, some of the behaviors on the video have become associated with you, particularly urination as part of sex. Pissing on people. You must have seen that Dave Chappelle skit.“No, I haven't.”He did several clips on his show.“David Chappelle? [as though trying to place the name] David Chappelle? I don't…”Chappelle's Show. Very famous.“Okay…comedian?”Really famous comedian.“Okay, a comedian. Okay…go on.”And acting as you, he did a parody of “Ignition (Remix)” called “Piss on You.”“Mmmm.”Likewise Macklemore mentioned it in his first big hit. [“Thrift Shop” includes the lyric Probably shoulda washed this, smells like R. Kelly's sheets…pissssss.] This has become part of popular culture.“Whole lot of things become popular culture.”But this is your name.“Especially when it comes to a comedian, man. First of all, I have no respect for a comedian when it comes to being serious. If you get that. That's a joke.”But this is your name and your reputation—pull up any YouTube video of yours and read the comments underneath, and pretty quickly there'll be a comment relating to this.“Mmmm. Okay. Of course it is.”Well, to ask the embarrassing question—to give you a chance to clarify something—and this wouldn't be illegal, but is that something you like as part of sex?“Absolutely not.”
He did several clips on his show.“David Chappelle? [as though trying to place the name] David Chappelle? I don't…”
Chappelle's Show. Very famous.“Okay…comedian?”
Really famous comedian.“Okay, a comedian. Okay…go on.”
And acting as you, he did a parody of “Ignition (Remix)” called “Piss on You.”“Mmmm.”
Likewise Macklemore mentioned it in his first big hit. [“Thrift Shop” includes the lyric Probably shoulda washed this, smells like R. Kelly's sheets…pissssss.] This has become part of popular culture.“Whole lot of things become popular culture.”
But this is your name.“Especially when it comes to a comedian, man. First of all, I have no respect for a comedian when it comes to being serious. If you get that. That's a joke.”
But this is your name and your reputation—pull up any YouTube video of yours and read the comments underneath, and pretty quickly there'll be a comment relating to this.“Mmmm. Okay. Of course it is.”
Well, to ask the embarrassing question—to give you a chance to clarify something—and this wouldn't be illegal, but is that something you like as part of sex?“Absolutely not.”
― frogbs, Friday, 22 January 2016 14:18 (eight years ago) link
“Well, my opinion on that is, I don't know what happened. I'm a fan of Bill Cosby's from the Bill Cosby show, of course—who's not?—and for me to give my opinion on something that I have no idea if it's true or not, all I can say is that it was a long time ago. And when I look on TV and I see the 70-, 80-, 90-year-old ladies talking about what happened when they were 17, 18, or 19, there's something strange about it. That's my opinion. It's just strange.”
Although if—“[interrupts] It's strange. Strange is strange. I can't explain strange. That's why strange is strange. Because it's something we can't explain.”
But don't you think that if they're telling the truth, it doesn't matter how long ago it was?“If God showed me that they were telling the truth, I would say that's wrong. I don't care if it was a zillion years ago. But God would have to do that, because God is the only one can show me that. No man can tell me that. No woman can tell me that. And when you wait 70 years, 50 years, 40 years, to say something that simple, it's strange. You know why I say that is because it happened to me, and it wasn't true.”
― niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
70-, 80-, 90-year-old ladies talking about what happened when they were 17, 18, or 19, there's something strange about it.
Yeah, R. Kelly wishes a whole lot of people can't remember what happened to them when they were 17. Or 16. Or 15.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult
More revelations from DeRo.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:21 (seven years ago) link
I hope all of the "separate the art from the artist" people are enjoying their R. Kelly music.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:10 (seven years ago) link
“In the back of our minds, we were thinking (my daughter) could be around him if I was with her,” J. said. “It didn’t really hit home. Even with the Aaliyah situation, now that I think about it, ‘Age Ain’t Nothing But a Number’ ... but you don’t think about that. You grew up with the song, and you like the song.”
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
unreal
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 July 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link
How is this unreal? This is the least-surprising revelation about this dude that I can think of.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link
get those meet & greet tour tix now folks!
― johnny crunch, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link
xpost
oh no yeah this is not surprising, horrifying but not suprirsing
i meant the logic in that quote josh posted
also i think ilx as a whole really needs to do a mea culpa for how much we used to clown on dero, like okay is he a corny critic, sure, but stuff like this he's doing is real reportage and real journalism and worth more than a boatload of record review, he's really stuck to this story when no one else would and the industry obviously would prefer to forget these children.
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 July 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link
Seriously. Hopper, for all her work, got far more credit than she deserved for that VV piece, which really in the end just amplified DeRo's voice/reporting. Jim's always done real reporting, though, and done a good job with it, but he's also done and said a lot of silly stuff, which can get in the way.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link
I admire Dan's civic dedication in ensuring every R Kelly thread is updated with this.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link
I'm imagining him using the office label maker to print stickers and going to the record stores on lunch break to appropriately label every R Kelly related product
― El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link
And I'll say I know that man, he is a friend of mine.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link
I did not realize Buzzfeed did real journalism, admirable
horrible story, and even if the sexual misconduct allegations are nothing new I hadn't heard about the manipulative/cultish side of it
just to get the morals clear tho, is the general suggestion that we boycot R Kelly?
― niels, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
sterling's initial reaction on the teenie pron thread is still one of the most O_O things i've seen on ilx
― nomar, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
also i think ilx as a whole really needs to do a mea culpa for how much we used to clown on dero
He can stand by his aesthetic takes and I can happily rubbish them, not that he would need to bother or care what anyone else thinks to start with. I will also gladly distinguish between opinions over said musical aesthetics and, per your note, actual reporting. On that front he has clearly done the work.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link
ILX in general should do more of a mea culpa for championing and celebrating the works of R. Kelly, IMO.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
insofar as they were always terrible (Trapped in the Closet is at best a campy trainwreck), yes
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
his also being a terrible person is indisputable at this point
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Here's a charming Drew Millard piece from 2013.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link
wow that piece is amazingly terrible
― nomar, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
matt otm about dero
kelly's music unfortunately is great. i defintely have been a lot less invested in him and his work after these stories started to become more and more numerous tho. seems like a monster
― k3vin k., Monday, 17 July 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Never liked a note this guy made. To think even early on people were comparing him to Prince...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
That Millard piece is a gigantic pile of horseshit.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
I belieeeeeve he should diiiie
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
ugh what a psycho. I've loved his music since I was a youngster but I'm fine putting it aside. pretty hard to separate the art from the artist at this point.
― down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Separating the art from the man becomes virtually impossible given how much of it is about sex.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
yea
― down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
for sure. it would be difficult to separate this sort of thing for any artist but R. comes off as an insane freak on nearly everything he does which makes it downright impossible.
― frogbs, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
yeah he is kind of unusual in this respect, usually artists are more circumspect or obfuscatory (or, dare I say it, artistic) but he doesn't seem to bother
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
like Spector's got some abusive material in his catalog, but he doesn't have songs that are literally about shooting women (see also James Brown, Michael Jackson, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
well he has one that is about hitting women but yeah
― akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link
right
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
― nomar, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:27 (four hours ago) Permalink
Dude!!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
well this is certainly a take
So... R. Kelly is in a polyamorous, dom/sub relationship with multiple consenting adult women. This is alarming why? https://t.co/V0HNSIIRzs— ElizabethNolanBrown (@ENBrown) July 17, 2017
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link
no one needed that
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
ah yes, the "naive people should be taken advantage of" school of libertarian commentator
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link
The one place I"m seeing completely different comments is on the FB posts from Windy City Live, the popular Chicago morning show.
― Eazy, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link