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(The packaging on the other hand leaves something to be desired. The little cardboard sleeves don't really hold the CDs in place. I wish they'd just used standard jewel cases.)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I borrowed Money Jungle from the library, and I like it okay. I like "Caravan" a lot, or at least the begin. And I like "Money Jungle." It's still probably not something I would buy, but I don't think it's an album that needs any apologies.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow, all of my dad's old 45s were stolen except the ones I borrowed, and fortunately, one of those was "The Mooch." It's still my favorite Duke Ellington song, a world within a song, really...

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Harlem Air Shaft or Ko Ko would be my faves, both on the Blanton-Webster Band comp

mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"jump for joy" is probably the most astonishingly perfect record i know. everything is in place; it's constantly infectious and exciting; it sounds so fresh; and the lyrics are a total hoot. superlatives actually demean this record, so i'll stop.

"chocolate shake" is v. close.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the way "jump for joy" ends is... oh my lord.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, for those of you scared of jazz, these are pop records.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone heard Sir Duke, performances of his pieces by Bill Ware (vibes) and Marc Ribot (gtr)? I think it's really beautiful but I haven't heard that much 'real' DE.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I absolutely love Money Jungle, I don't get the "jamming" comment. To me it sounded like they were at each other's throats. And yeah "Solitude" is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever herad.

As for Far East Suite...it's absolutely beautiful. Can't think of anything else to say.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, for those of you scared of jazz, these are pop records.

Indeed. They are catchy and fill o hooks. With early to mid Ellington, due to recording technology, most songs were only around 3 minutes long. The classic Ellington / Strayhorn number Take The A Train packs a whole musical narrative in less than 3 minutes and has a great fadeout ending.

mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

I am listening to Jungle Nights in Harlem and you should too.

Oilyrags, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:24 (eighteen years ago)

I really love Far East Suite
and the shite with Coleman Hawkins.

If you don't like it, you're racist.

our work is never over, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

underrated record is 'side by side' w/ johnny hodges
sweets edison KILLS IT on trumpet

deej, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

Must look into that then!
I love those underrated ones.

our work is never over, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:33 (eighteen years ago)

Jubilee Stomp is an acceptable substitute if Jungle Nights in Harlem is not available.

Oilyrags, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:40 (eighteen years ago)

Damnit hes prolific.
I havn't heard any of this.

our work is never over, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

Jungle Nights and Jubilee Stomp are early stuff. On Bluebird, nice and cheap and very hard swinging and excellent.

Oilyrags, Monday, 21 January 2008 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

I am really enjoying The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse, one of Ellington's last albums. I know it's supposed to be African-influenced -- and it is -- but it sounds even more rock-influenced, to me. Dark, thumping and rhythmic. Very unlike what I expect of Ellington (OTOH, I'm not all that familiar with his bread-and-butter big band work). Anyway, great disc. (n.1).

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(n.1) I did cringe at the corny spoken-word opening of the album, tho. Minor quibble, I guess.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

haha, i LOVE that spoken word intro.
as has been noted in this thread, there's a ton of later period (60s-70s) Ellington that is amazingly good. One I didn't see mentioned is the piano/bass album with Ray Brown called This One's For Blanton. Sort of an album length sequel to the duets Duke did with Blanton way back when. The New Orleans Suite (Hodges' last album, I think) has some great moments as well.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

I have this and the remaster sounds fine to me, as good as you could expect for this period

I've kind of changed my mind on this. I think they did kind of screw it up - though it's still listenable if you turn the treble down a couple of notches on your stereo.

o. nate, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, i think maybe the first disc of the B|W Band comp is kind of dodgy, esp. on headphones. I've got an old double LP with a lot of the same stuff and it sounds better to me, even on my crappy turntable. That said, those recordings would be great recorded on a cell phone. goddam, some of it is unbelievably good.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I am really enjoying The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse

YES.

"Didjeridoo" is quickly becoming a tune I feel really gypped that I never got to play with my jazz combo in college

TOMBOT, Friday, 24 October 2008 07:15 (seventeen years ago)

emusic subscribers who don't have this record, you have wasted a month.

TOMBOT, Friday, 24 October 2008 07:15 (seventeen years ago)

Tom, you should post here too:
Ellington as pianist

Matos DJs on Wednesdays here and plays something from The Far East Suite almost every week.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 24 October 2008 08:35 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I've been listening to The Far East Suite pretty much nonstop, with a couple of plays of The Seattle Concert thrown in. Sound is rough, as it's a 1952 show (and Ellington's first LP as such), but really sweet. Clark Terry is really nice on "Perdido."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:02 (seventeen years ago)

I should say the album is really sweet, not the rough sound.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Duke Ellington becomes first African-American on U.S. coin

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

this is great -

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gbfqxqejldse

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

Eee, that does look good. Also expensive.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

Jazz man is first African-American to solo on U.S. circulating coin

double bird strike (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

I've been saying for years we need to get politicians off our money and artists on. Nice work, DC! We could get off to no better start.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://dcist.com/2009/01/dc_duke_ellington_quarter_released.php

Oh god, the comments.

"I looked up Duke Ellington"

Wow. Says it all, really.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

[6] | snoopydog

Who is Duke Ellington and why should I care about him? Are there any other individuals on the quarters that I missed? Usually it's some stupid mountain or some wild life from the state. Who's Duke Ellington? Was he the architect of DC? I thought that guy was French. Ellington does not sound French to me.

deej da 5'9 (deej), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

I realize that DC isn't exactly the center of intellectualism but really, a piano player who likes white suits?

Øystein, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

This is why I have instituted a strict "DO NOT READ COMMENTS ON INTERNET" policy. Talk about douchebags.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:59 (seventeen years ago)

a funny thing to post on an Internet message board, yeah, but I'm talking about newspaper comments, etc.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

Beat out Benjamin Banneker and Frederick Douglass. I guess I could live with any of those on a quarter. I still would like to replace Andrew Jackson on the 20 with someone a little less....genocidal, though.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

Charlie Parker never committed any indian massacres, did he?

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

<a href=http://www.sendspace.com/file/oc5mla>;Shhhh!</a>

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

What is that, video of Charlie Parker committing indian massacres? Whilst playing "Cherokee"?

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

Jubilee Stomp

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

lol, just got this bizarre email from Amazon:

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tylerw, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

Me too, discussion over here

CD PRICES: Did they ever become as affordable as the vinyl/cassettes they replaced? Why?/Why not?

It's a "burn on demand" CD, even

bendy, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

See also http://www.amazon.com/2007-2012-Building-Excluding-Cafeteria-Restaurant/dp/0497503093

bendy, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

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Mark G, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Duke puts it on wax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKlFFp4-IE

Like making waffles.

bendy, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

I bought a cheapy 3-disc Ellington set the other day and it is totally ruling my life.

GayQuil (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 06:32 (sixteen years ago)

your saying so inspired me to listen to the yale concert, which re-blew my damn mind

brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 09:18 (sixteen years ago)

Once I get my sound back, I'll have to track that down.

i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 09:20 (sixteen years ago)

whenever this thread is revived, i worry that duke died.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 09:33 (sixteen years ago)

It looks like Ellington In Order is available for download on HDTracks. I listened to a few samples, compared them with The OKeh Ellington, and...this feels like a missed opportunity. Maybe the comparison to the Robert Johnson set isn't fair (after all, guitar and voice is probably easier to futz with mastering-wise than a 12-15 piece orchestra), but the new remasters don't sound dramatically different. They do sound different, and a little better -- slightly fuller, a little more bass -- but it's not the revelation it could or should have been. I dunno, I probably had unrealistic expectations that advancements in technology over the last 30+ years would've resulted in more of a sonic upgrade. ymmv.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

i remember getting the remastered Blanton-Webster CD set in the mid-'00s. it sounded fucking awful because they decided to leave in all this digital clipping, or something?

https://i.discogs.com/LkVQURXYwybpf77OllTlS47I9e6ITPkFqsNJGqvJGpA/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:543/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTI2MDI3/MzYtMTYxNzUwMTYw/MS02MTA3LmpwZWc.jpeg

so i have stuck with my original CD from the '80s. much better in my opinion:

https://i.discogs.com/wMShlgdGSP8MLEbXuVMg2qsVHbi8R6GZOWIYkz5RKSQ/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:594/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMTc1/MTQ3LTE2MzE0MzY0/MzgtNTgxNi5qcGVn.jpeg

but i'd be interested in checking out another, new remaster of these recordings.

budo jeru, Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

Yeah, that was a real disappointment — same mastering as on the big 1999 RCA box, as far as I know. Things like “Jack The Bear” especially are really frustrating for what you mentioned, when the reeds come in at the beginning — I don’t think it’s digital distortion, but just a shitty mastering job that over-emphasized the high end so that any distortion on the 78 would be magnified. That said, I still prefer it to the ‘80s set, but it sucks that the choice is limited to either something that sounds like a megaphone, or dealing with that brittle/bright mastering.

For early ‘40s Ellington, the 1940 Fargo set has vastly superior sound to any ‘40s Ellington studio recordings I’ve heard. I’d almost recommend it to a newbie over the ‘40s studio dates for that reason, despite not having certain key songs (like “‘A’ Train”), and you really get a sense of how exciting it must have been to see that orchestra live.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:44 (two years ago)

If you want a cheap, easy way of hearing how good early '40s Ellington can sound, find this CD:

https://www.discogs.com/release/4740444-Duke-Ellington-Rockin-In-Rhythm

Very common, very cheap, but it was remastered by the late, great John R. T. Davies. (Part of a series of jazz samplers that formed a survey on jazz history, courtesy of the UK magazine publisher Marshall Cavendish.) "Ko-Ko," "Cotton Tail" and "Jack the Bear" actually sound natural - no shrill EQ, no excessive noise but no noise processing like NoNoise or CEDAR either. It's a damn shame Davies didn't do a complete and comprehensive collection before he died.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 00:27 (two years ago)

this is what I have, any of you tru headz wanna comment on the mastering/sound?

https://www.discogs.com/release/2949550-Duke-Ellington-An-Explosion-Of-Genius-1938-1940

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:42 (two years ago)

Sony/RCA put out a 4CD set in 2008 covering 1932-1939 in what I assume are newer transfers than The Okeh Ellington. The mastering is less aggressive than the RCA Centennial box. I always thought the latter sounded remarkably present but also, as mentioned above, unduly harsh at times with that weird high-pitched noise coming in, usually toward the end of a track.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

...but that set doesn't cover the Okeh material, I see. Never mind, carry on!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 19:50 (two years ago)

in my opinion, for pre-war ellington, you need:

The Okeh Ellington 2xCD (Columbia) [1927-1930]
The Complete 1936-1940 Variety, Vocalion & Okeh Small Group Sessions 7xCD (Mosaic)
The Blanton-Webster Band 3xCD (RCA Bluebird) [1940-1942]

curious what others would add, but this has been enough for me.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 01:08 (two years ago)

Just now seeing: In Order Volume 1 (1927-1928)---43 songs, 2 hrs. 11 min.--is also on YouTubeMusic; maybe they've got the rest, or will have:
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l_NlTYi1pu5LbIIUR-eDP6MPfBuUSMJD4

dow, Thursday, 29 June 2023 23:22 (two years ago)

one year passes...

I feel like this guy should be selling this through an auction house:

Here’s a truly once in a lifetime opportunity for Jazz and Duke Ellington affectionados.

From the estate of Dr. Ted Shell, an original founder of the first Ellington Society in Washington, DC and personal friend of the Duke, this massive collection of tapes consists of recorded live concerts, rehearsals, outtakes, radio and television broadcasts and interviews by Duke Ellington spanning the decades from the 1939 - and possibly earlier - up to the 1970s.

The unique collection consists of 523 reel to reel tapes. The catalog alone, meticulously compiled and typewritten is 267 pages long. A glimpse can be seen in the photos below, as well as the preamble listing contents of about two thirds of the tapes.

Part of Dr. Shell’s collection of Ellington ephemera now resides at the Smithsonian Institution.

Listing with photos here.

birdistheword, Saturday, 31 August 2024 21:55 (one year ago)

Respected auction house “Canuck Audio Mart”

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 31 August 2024 22:18 (one year ago)

Guernsey’s was too shady

birdistheword, Saturday, 31 August 2024 22:30 (one year ago)

one year passes...

Hank Jones and Charlie Haden's cover of "Come Sunday" is really hitting the spot

budo jeru, Monday, 17 November 2025 05:18 (six months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq9RBK0R2TI

budo jeru, Monday, 17 November 2025 05:19 (six months ago)

Loved it when they did those duets

Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 November 2025 05:34 (six months ago)


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