But, of course, Deftones = Soundgarden (the critical fave, at once both part of the movement while maintaining an aloof distance & following a slightly tweaked muse).
Being that I was a robust & wordly *cough cough* 18 when I was bitten by the flannel bug, I can't say that I'd have bitten for the nu-metal swag bounding about nowadays. Of course, I loathed shit like Metallica back then - I was into grunge for the "meaning" behind the music. (I also read _X-Men_ for literary nourishment. And ate 2 Roy Rogers roast beef sandwiches a day.)
― David Raposa, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I have a brother? Yo, biznatch, you owe me 26 birthday presents - get on it!
Whatever happened to System of a Down? I remember Alternative Press (pardon me as I suppress laughter) ran down a list of nu-metal hopefuls back when nu-metal wasn't nu-metal. From the 2 songs I heard, SoaD seemed to be an inspired & idiosyncratic take on hard rock. I remember "Sugar" to be a particularly confounding little ditty. They must've been swallowed up & spit out by American Recording's consolidation (where they let the Gang of Four CDs go out of print, but keep Andrew Dice Clay around - yeah, Mr. Rubin, keep it up).
― DJ Martian, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― tarden, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Josh, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― tarden, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Aw, come on...someone must at least like ONE nu- metal track... -- Michael ([email protected]), June 25, 2001.
-- Michael ([email protected]), June 25, 2001.
I used to like Disturbed's "Voices" because I thought they said these lines: "N'Sync, you gonna die - will you listen to me!? D-d-d-d-die! D-d-d-d-die!" Alas, they don't so I went off it.
― Kodanshi, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― NNY, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
1) the limp bizkit song with meth is actually hot if you just think of it as a meth song produced by primo with a shit guest rapper. all the durst in the world can't take away that's it has method man going over some dj premier, and that shit is hot.
2) nu-metal is so grunge. all you assholes who like grunge, nu-metal is exactly what were listening to. actualy, nu-metal is better than grunge because they actually like techno and hiphop. while grunge just liked shitty sludge-rock.
3) everything alex in nyc is wrong, but especially that it will all be gone in five months. i remember korn debuting at number one on trl in 1998. he's also wrong about rap, but i'm not about to go off on that.
4) nu-metal is sadly one of the last mainstream genres that it is for some reason okay to hate, and that's sad. i'll readily defend nu-metal, anytime. i mean, i like rage against the machine so much more than nirvana it's not even funny. fuck nirvana.
― ethan, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kris, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
On what is this bold prediction based? Emperor have never been the most eclectic, progressive black metal band. Everything they do sounds pretty much exactly the same to me.
― dave q, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Wow Ethan, and you accuse the Pinefox of making snide ignorant comments... 90s alt-rock (at least the good stuff) had tunes . Nu-metal does use hip hop and techno sounds, but (with the big exception of Kid Rock) usually does so in an entirely fun-free way (at least in the stuff I've heard), which kinda defeats the purpose. Anyway, you clearly have this big beef against 90s guitar-rock, and I'd like you to just come out with it and say why, without resorting to dumb clichés.
― Patrick, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kris, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jeffrey Green from MD, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ethan, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Michael Bourke, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ana, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kris, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Fred Durst can SUCK MY BALLS
PS: pick up SOAD - Toxicity and At The Drive In - Relationship of Command. Exactly what genres are we talking about? The lines are beginning to blur.
What happened to KoRn anyways ... Life Is Peachy was really good :(
― scott reid, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Scott Reid in Victoria BC, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Keith, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Cheers Steve
ps. WTF is with everyone telling others what bands are shit? Surely we can figure it out ourselves! Also, that cock who said I can lick his ass if I don't like all the bands he listed, this ones for you:
:P
― Steve M, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
http://www.anml.8m.com
I'd seriously recommend seeing it. These guys hate nu-metal just as much as we do...
― ANML, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dj, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― cerry, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Cerry, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"five years...hell, five months time, it's all going to sound horribly, horribly dated."
But alex, the musical style has already _been_ around for five or more years. And certain albums by Tool, Korn, Deftones, and Rage Against The Machine still sound very fresh and original, to my ears at least. But it's true that many of the more recent upstarts like Cold, Saliva, Limp Bizkit, Roach, Mudvayne, and Coal Chamber (whose singer really sounds like Grover -- he should have a duet with Elmo, er, Macy Gray)), are really awful. But I think that the first bands I mentioned, plus Taproot, System Of A Down, some P.O.D and a few others are quite good, thank you. Musically, Slipknot are okay but I just can't stand constantly screaming vocals.
Re: Josh "What is it supposed to be about the Deftones and Sepultura that set them apart? When I hear them on the loud rock shows on my college station (which plays some more out-there stuff than mainstream radio, but safely out-there) I'm not exactly bowled over by originality."
I don't know about Sepultura; but to me Deftones definitely stand apart from the crowd. They have a great sense of smoothly building dynamics, original and interesting music, and Chino Moreno is a true vocalist that breaks away from the rap-influenced percussiveness of his peers. Of course, when he _does_ rap he's humble compared to a good real MC, but far better than, say, Fred Durst. Speaking of which -- _damn_ he's bad. When I heard his contribution to the "What's Going On" allstar track, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. He's _so_ terrible; someone should do him a favor and tell, him, really.
Re: tarden You argument is self-serving, ignorant, and demonstrably false. I offer myself as living proof that it's possible to like Nu Metal and have a diverse musical taste, although I also hate Papa Roach and Linkin Park.
― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Erin, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tim, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― David Raposa, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
SOAD:Armenian folk-metal, unusual, individual, great tunes, nonsense lyrics, gloriously heavy and insane.
Deftones:Nu-metal, but GOOD nu-metal. Get 'Around the Fur'.
Slipknot:-thats not music, its just a PILE OF SHIT!!!!
Staind:boooooooorrrrriiiiiiinnnnggggggg........
Limp Bizkit:Apart from Fred Durst [whiny arsehole who cant write proper lyrics] they are a very good band, heavy and melodic.
Papa Roach:Ok, but slightly boring.
Crazy Town:The worst lyrics in the history of music and are a also a bunch of posers peddling generic rap-metal tunes.
The only metal bands I like are Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, SOAD, RATM, and Deftones. I am 16 but I do not just like nu-metal, OK!
Oh and btw Muse DO NOT SOUND LIKE RADIOHEAD!!!!!!!!!
― sid, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
As far as every single band mentioned here in this thread, screw them all. Give me any ONE of the following bands over the lot of 'em: Monster Magnet, Kyuss, Nashville Pussy, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Venom, Slayer, Deadly Snakes, Turbonegro, King Brothers, The Reds, Leatherface, Iron Maiden, Celtic Frost, Coroner and Hellacopters. Perhaps this list applies to any newcomers in the future as well. That's the entire list of what I'd ever need as far as hard music.
― Nude Spock, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
this has better sound. SERIOUS slipknot fans at knebworth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzshp82CmnU&NR=1&feature=endscreen
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 01:54 (thirteen years ago)
I'm just glad I saw the Chaos AD tour.
Also saw Korn open for Ozzy in '95. Terrible!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)
Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. email me if u have a problem, and ill kick ur ass.― MeTaL RuLeS, Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:31 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i love how categorical this post is. i mean, i just wanna ask this guy, "so, Korn is REALLY better than Beethoven? Papa Roach is better than John Coltrane? do you even know who Beethoven or Coltrane WERE?!?"
― عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:00 (thirteen years ago)
email him if u have a problem!
― unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)
it would be really funny if he's still so militant on this topic 9 years later ...
― عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
and so it begins ..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jun/07/download-festival-nu-metal
personally, as an old man, i cant wait to be able to play my linkin park collection (courtesy of playlouder !), and not worry re the sneering masses ...
― mark e, Saturday, 8 June 2013 21:42 (twelve years ago)
― عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer),
haha u r old
― j., Saturday, 8 June 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)
I was given DED's debut album to listen to.
This is the most horrible shit I've ever heard in my life.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 July 2017 02:05 (eight years ago)
Have you listened to korn unplugged?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:06 (eight years ago)
roger adultery (roger adultery) at 4:43 9 Mar 03i think the song you refer to is by Kid Rock, who, as a celebrity / personality, I like much much better than Coldplay.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:08 (eight years ago)
Pvmic
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:09 (eight years ago)
lol otm
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:11 (eight years ago)
D: 2016 cover of Michael Jackson's 'They Don't Care About Us' by Saliva that seemingly retains the original 'Jew me' line while omitting the, uh, other one.
― peace, man, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:23 (five years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKxE9uE1lXo
*presses play*syke
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:34 (five years ago)