more curious about the comments box, personally.
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 19 January 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
(although i guess it got the desired result).
It probably got a threatening cease-and-desist letter. It was a facsinating post, tho.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 19 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
not that i want to be the guy sticking up for publicists on the thread but--theres two sides to every story, and based on my experience/understanding disagreements like this are fairly common in the industry
― 8====D ------ ć” (max), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
here's what's up now:
CHARLES HOLGATE AND THE PUBLICITY GAME
EDIT: I just had a long, slightly surreal phone conversation with Charles Holgate, the original topic of this post. Charles requested that I take down this blog entry & associated comments and wait until the end of the month, by which time my core concerns should have been resolved. Iām happy to oblige and hope everything works out.
Thanks and sincere apologies to the commentors - should this discussion re-open, your comments will be intact. I feel awkward truncating an open discussion, I never delete comments on here; in the years of Mudd Up! this is the only time a post has been put on pause.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
this just sounds like a case of a very busy/lazy (delete as appropriate) press officer failing to really get on the job then going awol cos he knew he fucked up.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
the good news is that by checking dj rupture's blog i found this great south african bleep'n'rap mixtape
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
or pr has sent to wrong sites/mags, only for the mixtape to be met by a 'meh!'
― mark e, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
and no follow up calls, no re-mailing out, no follow up emails, not even a report made up of fake feedback to send to the record label! what sort of pr dyou call that? ;)
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
viral stealth PR campaign
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i deal with many a pr who never chase me up.they're the best.
― mark e, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
Guest List: Best of 2008Guest List by Pitchfork
DJ/rupture1. Various Artists: Gaza Lords Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 (compiled by Mode Raw)New eerie synthed-up reggae, lots of Stephen "Di Genius" production, plus all these amazing singjays. Hot. And very useful now that Jamaican vinyl production fell off practically overnight. You can hear Mavado's huge influence in the younger generation of MCs who bend otherworldly melodies into gangsta-sufferation lyrics. Long live hood synthetics! Tunes by B.o.B and Boy Better Know push this international.
2. Paavoharju: Laulu Laakson KukistaForget High Places and other neo-hippie loopers; this is the real deal, goth like the Brothers Quay, with incredible nonlinear post-production. Uncanny religious or pseudo-religious Finnish digital-handmade weirdness. Very romantic. Sounds the way memory feels.
3. Maga Bo: ArchipelagoesLow-end whooomp from Rio's finest via African collabs. Hiphop, ragga, taarab, bass.
4. Various Artists: Urban Rai 200837 recent rai hits? With a bunch of Maghrebi rap and R&B for good measure?! Yes please. Usually when I buy this music in Paris I'm looking for less popular stuff, and the Arab girls make fun of me.
5. Balla et Ses Balladins: The Syliphone YearsGorgeous 70s guitar music from post-independence Guinea. You've had 30 years-- don't sleep now.
6. Squincy Jones: NintendubLast summer Neil Landstrum and I were playing at this insane rural festival in Ireland where our tent's manager-person had lost the power of speech and was last seen wandering away with a vodka bottle and a distant look. Anyhow Neil said something like, "Dubstep? I call it snoozestep!" The further you go from London the less respect yoou have for "dubstep." The best is when we slap American rap on top, preferably singsong chants or shouting from the dirty South. Crunkstep! Says Squincy of his free mix: "I'm very proud of it. It combines three of the raddest things to ever happen to music: Dubstep, 8bit Nintendo Loops, Rap."
7. Toumani Diabate: The Mande VariationsMr. Diabate was responsible for the most incredible concert performance I saw all year. He also wins the "Best Dressed Performer of the Year Award", brother looked downright royal in his celestial blue fly-traditional Malian robes.
8. Various Artists: Give Me Love: Songs of the Broken Hearted, Baghdad 1925-29This was a good year for what I call "scratchy old stuff"-- CD compilations of 78s. This one sounds lovely, and the curatorial focus is on-point. In a short time a city can swing from open to closed, from something fluid and made of multiples to occupied, divided, entrenched. What awaits us?
― wkiwpedia (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
#4 My fourth problem with top 10s is my lack of a problem. People ask me to write Top 10 lists, I oblige.
― Milton Parker, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh. I rescind my LOL.
― wkiwpedia (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
he should work on making lists that aren't tl;dr
stop posting
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I read it
xpost
― Milton Parker, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
whiney did you actually laugh out loud when you saw that he had written a top 10 list
― s1ocki, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
whiney I did post on your link to your 'best of 2008' post and I got a list of 150 records from a single year with absolutely no further information about them, that is far better an example of -too long didn't read- then Rupture's concise & enthusiastic top 8 list
as for the PR guy the only excuse I can imagine is some kind of illness and as someone who's seen PR rates for independent releases increase at the same rate that sales decline, I appreciate his 'unprofessional' post
― Milton Parker, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
no, that's what "actual lol" is for
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought that's what ol was for
― s1ocki, Monday, 19 January 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
"more curious about the comments box, personally."
Me too. Sounds like this got out of control fast.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
whiney, i don't get it, what's funny about rupture's list?
and really? blurbs of a sentence or two have achieved TLDR status?
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
what happened? i'm confused.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
also, the post is back up on jace's blog.and we have beccy lindon to thank for "grindie": http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/grindie-music-what-happens-when-indie-and-grime-collide-442277.html
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks a lot Beccy. You're the best!
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks beccy
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
So is Uproot totally unheard in the UK? It seems like it has done pretty well here in the states (or at least in SF and on the web).
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
bang-up job beccy
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
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It was funny to me because I thought the initial post was like a diatribe against boring artist top 10 lists and then he goes and does a boring artist top 10 list.
But I was wrong. Milton Parker pointed out to me that I just misread the initial post. And, btw "misread" is really "didn't really read"
I took back my LOL like two posts down.
― poxyfuzak (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
What's boring about the list?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
it's tl!
― The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"misread" is really "didn't really read"guess is "misread" you in the same way. sorry!
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
("guess i," i mean.)
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
worth reading every year.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Various Artists: Give Me Love: Songs of the Broken Hearted, Baghdad 1925-29
What is this? I don't remember anything about it. Will have to investigate.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread is most valuable for the posted DJ Rupture album list.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
dj rupture was killin it when i saw him live
― da puppier (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
just followed him on twitter. rupture's one of the most interesting, thoughtful artists around.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw him live & the girls i brought were bored \oO/ all the dudes were excited to hear joy orbison out tho
― *plop*ism rules (deej), Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link
lol he played live here last month & totally killed it - even girls seemed to like it
― Lamp, Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the girls i brought preferred the opening dj who was playing more danceable ish like in this vein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSgcOuh9j7Y
― *plop*ism rules (deej), Thursday, 16 December 2010 07:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I find his live sets pretty hit or miss. His mixtapes are much more consistent--although Solar Life Raft was a bit draggy compared to his better ones.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 December 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Deej that Bag Raiders tune is good (I like how they're going increasingly mersh clubby) but this one is their classic I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feA64wXhbjo
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Then there are the hardcore music fans with a reasonably well-paying day job, honorable folks who actually purchase CDs by artists they like. These same people probably vote regularly in local and national elections, and if their savings aren't tucked away in some sensible investment portfolio yet, they will be soon.
...spot on, unsurprisingly.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
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in world of young women
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
[my]
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw him dj recently and thought he was really good - afraid i was too busy dancing to work out the gender breakdown of the rest of the dancefloor
― c sharp major, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
will try better next time
so eye-rolly when ppl act like im saying that NO ONE WAS DANCING -- IT WAS QUIET AS A STUDY HALL
obv music nerds who know who dj rupture is & are feeling the latest in dubstep tracks blended into reggaeton into night slugs or w/e are gonna be feeling it .... girls or guys ... just sayin, i invited some girls & was like "yeah the dj is a big deal / covered in nyer / travels all over the world" etc. & then they were having fun when the 1st guy was on playing some populist dance ish, then when rupture came on w/ his world music thing it just didnt feel like he was maintaining the vibe & he lost folks who werent already in it
i guess the gender thing is a BIT of a troll -- i mean, i thought his mix was 'interesting,' musically, but as a dancer it didnt really hold my attention either
― *plop*ism rules (deej), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the ppl i invited werent 'music nerds' theyre, like, elementary school teachers who like going out to dance on weekends & if you cant see why rupture wouldnt appeal to ppl who dont really care about how many difft countries hes sampling then yr being intentionally obtuse imo
― *plop*ism rules (deej), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Alright in order of personal preference:
Gold Teeth ThiefPorque Soy Sonidero Y Voy A Muchos LugaresMinesweeper Suite58.46 Mix (not available on the site because apparently Jace doesn't love it)Uproot2004 Post-Election Mix (also not on the site)Low Income TomorrowlandBidoun Sessions (Mutamussik mix on same CD just below Minesweeper Suite for me though)Secret Google Cheat CodesCumbia Mix for BBC1Solar Life Raft
Everything up to Secret Google Cheat Codes is excellent and got quite a bit of play. The 2011-12 mixes I don't much recall. I have some other things of his (a great hour long set from Maida Vale from 2002, a 90 minute one for Resonance FM from 2004, a live set from 2005 I think, 3 hours of ambient mixes he did for a WFMU giveaway) that are all worthwhile as while. And his WFMU radio show (despite me no longer having the time/energy to listen much to it) is generally great too.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 22 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
#6 Problem number six: why start & stop at music? I want to see anybody's Top 10 Scary Pieces of Legislation Passed in 2004. Or the Top 10 Non-imaginary Threats to Healthy Democracies in 2004.
Lol
― TheFatSJW (D-40), Thursday, 1 October 2015 05:20 (eight years ago) link