Thanks for the bootleg link, Dow; I grabbed the 1970 Cincinnati show. I assumed at the time that Everybody's Rockin' had something to do with the Stray Cats. That's a puzzling journey from Rust Never Sleeps four years earlier. I wish I could dig up this Neil quote from a '79 story/interview in Time or Newsweek--something to do with him and Crazy Horse running into the McCartney and the Wings at an airport. It catches Neil at his most boyishly fan-like. I read this in high school, probably the first Neil bio (I scanned my shelves and don't seem to have it anymore):
http://gd2ltd.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/51fxlcknrpl_ss500_.jpg
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)
Yes! I was wondering just yesterday how it must feel to be a star from the second wave of rock, forever little brother to McCartney or Jagger who just won't ever get off the throne. Neil's been an elder statesman for thirty years, he must feel like Prince Charles.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)
the Comes a Time poll was one of my faves.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 June 2012 14:21 (thirteen years ago)
Harvest Moon is a lot better than I remember - I always thought it was hokey as hell, I could never understand it being hailed as his big return to form.
'Natural Beauty' is *so* gorgeous.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
A ballot with 12 songs came in, so I had to figure out how to vote if you're between increments of 10:
0-10 songs: 15 per song total (i.e., 7 songs = 105 points to split)11-20 songs: 150 points + 10 points per song above 10 (i.e., 17 songs = 150 + 70 = 220 to split)21-30 songs: 250 points + 5 points per song above 20 (i.e., 27 songs = 250 + 35 = 285 to split)
If you're between 30 and 40, you get 5 extra points every two songs; try to vote for an even number to avoid half-points: 32 = 305, 34 = 310, 36 = 315, 38 = 320, 40 = 325.
It's how Neil would have wanted it--he's very math-oriented.
― clemenza, Monday, 25 June 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)
'You and Me' from Harvest Moon is great too. ive got 30 songs but putting them in order is driving me so crazy i might just opt out of this one.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, Natural Beauty will most likely be on my ballot. although, the wording of the first line in the chorus always provokes the facepalm
A natural beauty should be preservedlike a monument...to nature
aw man neil, c'mon
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
and then as they hit the chorus one more time at the end and reach that final line, they just let it die off at "like a monument..." because no one's willing to add "...to nature" to that monster one more time
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 25 June 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)
Just give them all the same number of points...no opting out!!! :)
― cwkiii, Monday, 25 June 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
I'm going to concoct a part-ranked ballot I think. Top dozen or so will be ranked, the rest will get some arbitrary total. I'll have about sixty songs in total though - aiui it's a forty-track limit, so there's some serious culling needs doing.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)
i haven't even started
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 25 June 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)
still thinking!
gonna have a field day with this. only thing is i was on a massive Neil kick a few months ago, so it may take a bit of a kickstart to enter that zone again.
― charlie h, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)
I'm totally not ranking, because there is no way.
I always thought "Natural Beauty" had these clear echoes of "Cortez the Killer," musically if not thematically.
I think I'm putting "Peaceful Valley Boulevard" on my ballot. I think that song is so spooky, and very of a piece with past themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r-H0rJDQjY
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:18 (thirteen years ago)
Really getting into Le Noise right now..."Love and War" might make my ballot.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)
le noise will probably be in my top 3 album covers ballot
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 25 June 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)
i need to listen to the album itself a bit more, though.
just saw this photo. where's the album these dudes recorded? http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63uyhYCzX1qd418mo1_1280.png
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
Bay Area MVPs.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)
I would totally listen to an album by that crew. Even one made now instead of then.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
totally! anyhoo, looking at the big list of neil songs, i'm really not sure whether I'll vote for anything not 60s-70s! i love tons of stuff past that era, but...
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)
yeah I'm kinda there too
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)
with the exception of Harvest Moon.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
I kinda wish we could vote for specific versions of songs, like the Weld version of "Farmer John", or the second version of "Tonight's The Night" from the Manchester show in '73, or The Bernstein Tapes version of "Mellow My Mind".
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)
yeah me too, but that'd get a little nuts, wouldn't it?
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)
I was gonna say that if you guys can forsake Harvest Moon, I don't know whether you should start looking for a heart transplant or...?
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 25 June 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)
glad to see you've come to your senses
harvest moon is definitely the top contender for post-70s. maybe that and crime in the city. oh and maybe safeway cart. and country home! (tho i think of that last one as a 70s track).
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:07 (thirteen years ago)
I know it would be nuts to do it that way, but I can't help but think, " I love this particular version but the studio take is shit."
I don't want to vote for songs where I love a performance over a composition, if that makes sense.
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― EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
Okay, I'm in for this. I can see my list hitting triple digits on first pass already. Yikes.
Coincidentally, just got tix to see NY and the Horse in October -- pumped.
― hutlock, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
Busy day...a ranked/unranked ballot is fine, Ismael; give points to wherever, and I'll split the rest among the remaining songs (if they don't divide evenly, I'll let you know).
― clemenza, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)
I love "Country Home." I walk around humming that all the time.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)
Crap, almost forgot "Philadelphia." That song is beautiful.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
oh yessss, i could vote for philadelphia for sure. this is one of my fave country homeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ZEsmpETCY
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
seems like that song should just be a standard in any of neil's electric sets, but it seems like he rarely plays it.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
I kinda wish we could vote for specific versions of songs
I think it'd be insane for polling, but nothing's stopping anybody from tacking on their fave version of a song when they post their ballot after the poll
― da croupier, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)
My first pass was 49 tracks, only 8 that aren't from between 1969-79. Should be able to cut that back to 40.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
Incidentally, I have no problem voting for later stuff because I know even fans of Neil's whole career will (and likely should) be leaning to '60s and '70s.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, and speaking of which, I listen to "Freedom," "Ragged Glory," "Harvest Moon" and "Sleeps With Angels" as much as I listen to any prime Neil. That's easily his best run of classics since the '70s.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
― da croupier, Monday, June 25, 2012 1:38 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark
sometimes people note that stuff when mailing in their ballots and the organizer mentions in the results "x votes for this remix, x votes for that version" etc.
― some dude, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
I've been marking the albums as I go along - boring to say so, but After The Gold Rush, Harvest and On The Beach are definitely the top three (unless Time Fades Away is amazing, I haven't got there yet). He's had a lot of decent albums since, but those three are the pick.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)
Not to say I'll be voting for lots of tracks off those albums, necessarily. A lot of Harvest is relatively weak imo, but it hangs together so well.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
pistols at dawn, Klata
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)
:)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, and speaking of which, I listen to "Freedom," "Ragged Glory," "Harvest Moon" and "Sleeps With Angels" as much as I listen to any prime Neilyeah, add in the live albums from this time period and the el dorado ep, and you've got an amazing run.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)
started going through the albums today. not gonna start putting the ballot together until i reach the end, but if we were doing worst neil tracks I think "Last Trip To Tulsa" and "There's A World" might still be in the top 10 when I wrap this thing up.
― da croupier, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)
last trip is definitely a drag -- i came around in a big way on that self titled debut when the remasters came out, but i still turn it off when we get to Tulsa.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, it's totally enjoyable until then - at least for being such a weird, anomalous curio
― da croupier, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)
as much as i like his early years, the only album of '62-'72 that I'd recommend to a casual fan is Gold Rush - the rest are summed up by Decade fine
― da croupier, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)
I have lots of love for Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, especially in light of the remasters. Totally launches that record into the stratosphere.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 June 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)