hadnt seen that voice article but i feel like that's not the first time i've come across butthurt jamaicans wait let me rephrase that detected a resentful antipathy from that side
basically a belated realisation of how faddishness works after years of telling themselves all manner of nice things to soothe why the early to mid 00s limelight went away. insert your own proud wifebeaten tart with a heart analogy
again i think it's partly a misapprehension born of sometimes inadequate, sometimes novelty-ish presentation; you never know how serious robbo ranx is with this stuff (can be slyly very cutting in the margins of geniality) but recently on his show he'd been pressganged into having (the pleasantly pointlessly avuncular) dj edu guesting as part of 1xtra afrobeats week and it was a crying shame listening to edu's miserable attempts to convince robbo with the most uninteresting blatantly dancehall-derived stuff, like dudes speaking in ja patois and so on, everything to back up the suspicion of afro as shonky facsimile dancehall. a revelatory opportunity missed
not that it particularly matters what robbo thinks of course. the most interesting thing is that edu was convinced dancehall was sounding more like afro! (with particular reference to konshens 'stop sign/gyal a bubble part 2' iirc). oh how you could hear robbo silently bristle at that
― r|t|c, Friday, 22 June 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
really hating the way that daytime R1 DJ's seem to be treating Robbo Ranx and this track as some laughable onetime breakout.
― owenf, Sunday, 24 June 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
from the observer today - 'The impossibly infectious "Oliver Twist" was a calculated attempt to crack the market in the UK. "I thought we could do with a sort of funky house sound. I thought: 'It's not like the music is that different from the music we listen to here.'"'
― just sayin, Sunday, 24 June 2012 08:30 (eleven years ago) link
The EL album is fantastic.
― Tim F, Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
killer track from last year i just came across on youtube. Amanda's getting it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6WvHVHkM7I
― Benny B, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
plenty of freshness on this new Selecta Maestro mix
http://soundcloud.com/selectamaestro83/afrobeats-workout-session-vol
― Benny B, Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
still haven't caught up with all the youtubes in this thread because i can't watch youtube any more on this laptop but here are a couple of amazing songs that are new to me that were played at the afrobeats somerset house show at the weekend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5u1w-tUxaM
"save the drama for your baby mama"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXgkI7bRFHo
mista silva has an ep on itunes called full vim, i recommend it
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
oh wait apparently "kele kele" was on that abrantee mix i've played about 50 times, had never noticed it before. see how great songs stand out so much more in isolation
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
this is on this weekend also:
http://ticketing.southbankcentre.co.uk/find/music/gigs-contemporary/tickets/the-ultimate-afrobeats-utopia-66326
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 09:38 (eleven years ago) link
finally on YouTube, the hottest bangingest track off EL's "Something ELse" album: Egbee Mli.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfoZT7WFW9I
― breastcrawl, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
EL is a brilliant producer, I love the synths on that one above, banging beat, too!
― Astrochimp32, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
So many good productions on the E.L. album, it's a bit more fake-dancehall but I adore "Mame Wossop".
― Tim F, Saturday, 28 July 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
e.l is pretty good but making a big deal of him is v much like saying your fave funky producer is roska
― r|t|c, Saturday, 28 July 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
LOL what a thing to say.
The new Roska album is good actually! Poor dude, he finally does something that might please the audience who initially threatened to embrace him, but they've stopped listening.
Re azonto etc. I'm not really in a position to think in terms of "fave producer" yet anyway.
― Tim F, Saturday, 28 July 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
new neptizzle mixtape!http://mixtapemadness.co.uk/DJneptizzle/UltimateAfrobeats2012/552
and just realised that his weekly shows are archived herehttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/24197216
My favourite producer is whoever made that Amanda riddim. Zigi himself? Or maybe Richie? Haven't been able to find out.
Here's the new remix of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lBPusVgJnU
― Benny B, Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
according to google it is richie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Mensah
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
well it doesn't mention that song on that page, but yeah i suppose it must be him.
Talking producers, I really rate Ball J who produced Lapaz Toyota for Guru.
This is like Lapaz Toyota part twoGuru - Karaokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJvbe_RpDQ
Obour ft. Mugeez - One peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lBPusVgJnU
Nhyiraba Kojo (ft.Skrew Faze & Ball J)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7R5jMLPk1A
more goodness from him here (Today be Today by Black Cat is cool) didhttp://www.bigxgh.com/artist/ball-j/
― Benny B, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
soz, fucked some links up
Obour ft. Mugeez - One peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfZz5o0dBrc
Ball J produckieshttp://www.bigxgh.com/artist/ball-j/
― Benny B, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
richie does all the production for lynx ents, it was on another page sorry
ball j is by far my favourite, i said already 'lapaz toyota' was my song of the year and 'karaoke' is just as good; him and his nu afrika posse seem particularly comparable to early-to-mid ward 21, the heavy rap influence and slight mad scientist auteur remove from the rest of the azonto mainstream whilst still being popular. guru is great too, love that low slung flow
rate you for putting the work in benny, good stuff
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes I thought ward 21 when i heard lapaz toyota too, if only because of the guy with the deep voice!
here's another great Ball J production
Aaah - Anomabahttp://archive.org/details/AnomaBa_AaahDaMusician
would have posted the youtube but the homemade video was just too hideous
― Benny B, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
"Karaoke" is brilliant!
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
I find it funny that there's a producer called De-Genius Selections too (dude did Raquel's "Sweetio" and Edem's "Over Again", two of my favourites from the first Neptizzle mix), they're making the dancehall comparisons way too easy.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLJ6M-lmrxohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JK0azayEoAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvT4fIUuGQYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4i_SSx-3tAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27ANlCrs6E
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
Already love "Twaame Lala"... Got some homework from this thread now.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
all those are ball j
appietus, gafacci, guiltybeatz, killa beatz, krinkman are other consistently great 233 producers
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
wow, Ball J ftw then
― Benny B, Sunday, 29 July 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
i know it's been out for months and is top of the charts and is ubiquitous yadda yadda but can i just underline the fact that lapaz toyota is the craziest shit ever?? my god did it blow my head clean off.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit @ all these Ball J tunes! Each one seems crazier than the last.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Between "Lapaz Toyota", "Karaoke", "One People", "Gbaa Alert", "Wa Sei Bebia" and "Twaame Lala" I could totally crowd out my year end top ten with these.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
lapaz toyota is siiiiiiiiiiiiiick
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 July 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
I love how both of those Neptizzle mixes end with these beautiful, super saccharine-sweet love songs "Sweetio" and "Am in Love With You Now". I'm glad to be proven wrong, but you wouldn't really get anything that girly/vulnerable in Jamaican Dancehall, would you? Lot's of amazing songs on this thread, btw.
― Astrochimp32, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
you are wrong, you knew you would be wrong, you will not receive the remittance of being proven wrong
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Dammit, I guess an apology wouldn't suffice now, would it? I'll go off now and search for some Ragga Dancehall as sweet and girly as 'Sweetio' or "Am Love with You". Everyone carry on posting links to crazy, mind-bending Azonto.
― Astrochimp32, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Nyame-K - Sa Saaaa Saahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4zi_cOcKJM&feature=related
^ that one's Ball J. Dunno who made this next one but its nuts
Fada Gran Pa - To da centerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZxHXd_oUVs&feature=plcp
― Benny B, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
One of my favourite things about "Lapaz Toyota" on the Neptizzle mix is that it's one of the few tunes that gets a proper mix lead-in; every time I hear those stabs start to emerge I get really excited.
― Tim F, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
lord a mercy that nyame-k
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://w1.hulkshare.com/0747wkqslci3
this would seem to be the improved version
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
kinda late on this thread afaik
you can listen to EL's double album here: http://elrepgh.bandcamp.com/.
^^ that link leads to a dead end, i think? what's the name of the album?
so far, i've been listening to the first neptizzle mix posted here and it's great. considering the amount of links, i guess i have a lot of stuff to entertain me for quite some time. lovely homework.
i also love that 'tokota' tune that rob posted upthread. those menacing keyboards are sort of what i hoped from a kuduro intersection with stuff like 'onorthodox daughter' or 'ready fi de war' - which is subtly - if somewhat unknowingly - happening atm with some recent tunes from some of lisbon's upcoming kuduro producers.
― rusty_allen, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
This dewy number has rather grown on me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzW47so01EE
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
Woah, 'To Da Center' is nuts.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
The disgustingly titled 'Vomit Me*' by Egudie Kwabena isn't on Youtube but is terrific.
*I am choosing to believe this doesn't mean what I think it means.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
Also Naeto C is a long, long way from being the world's greatest MC but there's something quite sweet about this and the main hook has been in my head for weeks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFQ1fl8IGGM
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yaw Siki - One more flow(not quite as good as 'Wup3 Dodo' as the chorus is a bit of a mess, but I like the beat)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJbYlEEnXUs&feature=player_embedded
Flexy da don - Wo de taataa me(Tsofi Sausage)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-YGPnNIQI
Guru - Akonta Fried ricehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybVtWSu8tQ&feature=related
Joe B ft. Guru - Dongorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1KQMCER1F8&feature=relmfu
and some older guru/ball j tunes i like
Guru - Anything goeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruHayKi8u3w
You go fly - Agbeko ft. Guruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIIPOUtSOlA
― Benny B, Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't got round to the last crop yet, but these Ball J tunes are all amazing. Like they pop off in all directions without ever coming unstuck. He's got a really good line in taking vocal effects (chipmunk vocals, cut-ups) and working them as percussive or textural tools that makes these tunes feel ravey in a way that a lot of this stuff, while fantastic, isn't*. Like the way he takes that frog noise on Wasei Babeiaa and works it like an acid line.
*Nor is a lot of ostensibly ravey US pop for that matter.
(I'm perfectly willing to accept that I'm doing a disservice to other producers here but that's because I'm actually now paying attention to Ball J in a way I'm not with any other afrobeats producers except Don Jazzy).
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2012 08:29 (eleven years ago) link
i resent the fact that there are only 24 hours in a day and between listening to stuff for work and the olympics that has left me with zero hours to catch up on this thread recently
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 August 2012 08:49 (eleven years ago) link
"The Championship is not an option" - I Love Football off-season and transfer speculation thread 2012
mdc i cannot believe you gave this no love
― r|t|c, Friday, 3 August 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link
I missed that due to being on holiday but I will react now:
!!!!!!!!!!!
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
Also Lex I could have sworn I posted my favourite Tiwa Savage here but apparently not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oSY4CYfXV4
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WSm_faUpOY
the best tiwa savage is this stellar, sinuous dawn richardesque number off don jazzy's label compilation which i have posted a fair few cuts off already
i part with it reluctantly
― r|t|c, Friday, 3 August 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
Is that the Mavin Allstars Solar Plexus one? That's pretty good, although I almost didn't listen to it out of the assumption it would be lesser than the sum of its parts.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link