I don't know about Delay...both the "why must I beee the theeeef" and "froggeeee and toadeeee eeet the tangerine seeds, one by one" songs are really grating
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
"Father cannot yell", never bettered but then again who could?
― Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not the biggest Monster Movie fan but Father Cannot Yell is one of the 4 or 5 best things they ever recorded.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Aw. "Thief" is amazing. "Little Star of Bethlehem" is great too if you imagine they're making fun of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 15 years before they formed.Mooney is more grating and less dynamic & deliberate than Damo. And it takes more time to get into Mooney. But he's just as perfect for Can as Damo, just in entirely different ways. Mooney is more like Iggy, if Damo is Bowie - singing context only. (not a perfect analogy, I realize)
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
I love the version of "Little Star" on Radio Waves, but I don't know if that's Mooney or Damo!
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
Little Star of Bethlehem is one of the best ever can songs. Waterlilies in the bath tub. He seems so lovable does Malcolm and the poor guy was on the verge of a nervous breakdown as a Can member. I thought Bubble Rap was a Damo track?
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
Little Star is kind of an oddity in the Can catalogue, as I actually can understand the lyrics
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
19th Century Man is another class Malcolm performance.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
And maybe some day my brain will forget 'Hoolah, Hoolah'.
But it's so good. Love that album.
― timellison, Friday, 22 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
"Bubble Rap" is Damo. It's probably bcz I'm getting old, but I needed headphones to confirm that. His delivery is very Mooney-esque
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Friday, 22 June 2012 07:21 (eleven years ago) link
right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.
Madness, Malcolm is awesome and that period of Can is their most consistent imo
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link
In terms of the outtakes yes but c'mon Suzuki all the way
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
We've had this debate on here before. Early Can has far less noodling about and wayward experimentation - well far less released noodling about and wayward experimentation! That's all.
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Are you waiting for the streetcar?
― cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I thought I was, but a naked man just ran past.
Anyways, the impression I get is that MMooney was more of a driving force in the early days ("The Can" being an americanism, for example), and that Damo was added to the mix while it was being made.
― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds right
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
surprised by the musique concrete-style things on here.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^ fwiw. a few of their v best songs. i can't understand why the slimmer limited edition is the thing that's usually reissued.
psyched to hear people are into this. i heard a little and it was bizarre just to hear a song that started with the weird broth of can-sounding bass, karoli guitar whines, &c
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't think limited edition had ever been reissued. unlimited replaced it in 1976.
― fit and working again, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
was pretty sure i saw a bunch of new vinyl copies last time they did a batch of reissues. maybe i'm wrong though.
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
fakeys.
― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
oh huh
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
Mine just came in and I'm shocked at the sound quality; dunno if it's just years of d/ling shitty bootlegs or listening to the "official" Live Box and Radio Waves releases but I expected the quality to be terrible, especially as these recordings basically sat for forty years, but damn does this thing sound good, even though some of the avant garde junk on the first disc is pretty damn irritating (how much of this stuff did Can produce?)
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
why did no one mention that there was basically a 12-minute version of "Vitamin C" on here, this is so damn great
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
friendly neighbourhood whore - fabulous groove
― nonightsweats, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link
and if that's not one for the 'out-of-context' thread...
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
there should be a "favorite moment in dead pigeon suite" poll
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
well not really but there are so many to choose from
its gotta be right when the music switches from the slow part to that insane groove
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
which time!?
i like the early music arrangement of the first minute --> when the percussion comes in around 1:11 or so and then also that OOOOW somewhere in the middle
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDmmrpyVnk
the vitamin c segment is OUT OF CONTROL
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the part where Damo kind of comes out of nowhere is my favorite
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
My actual physical copy of this should be arriving at the record store today! I was a good person and bought it locally. Excited!
Also, LL being a Can fan makes me happy
― mh, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
Lindsay Lohan?
― Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
She knows all about the Can
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
You should be excited! I waited (so chaste!) until I could listen to my very own copy and it was worth it. The book is fun too.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Lene Lovich.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Jamming this this morning and my 2 1/2 year-old was jumping around gleefully during "streetcar"... "WHAT IS HE SAYYYYYING?!!"
― tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Gonna show some of my friends the Can Free Concert film. Can fever all over again.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know people talk about how great Jaki is all the time but I kinda feel sometimes that this boxset is just one big testament to him
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know people talk about how great Jaki is all the time but I kinda feel sometimes that this boxset band is just one big testament to him
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
xp Lucky friends! I've never seen that.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
You should.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Ha...my girlfriend can't stand "Streetcar", "It just keeps going and going!"
Me: "That's the point!"
Also read this sold 2k in Wk1 of release.
― dronestreet, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
More than anything, this box, to me, shows how important Malcolm Mooney was to Can.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
they were all pretty good
― Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yay, at last Malcolm is getting his due
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if you just go through the actual albums you'd get the impression that Malcolm was just a crazy vocalist that got kicked out halfway through the 2nd album (and replaced with an even crazier one)
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
Damo was not crazier. I liked Rosko Gee, so I'm not the most subjective here.
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Certainly they all play crucial roles in the band. Just reading Irmin's thoughts about the early days made me realize that Malcolm provided that difference they needed, and his chants gave something for Jaki to anchor to.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link