Why do white people criticize one another for being white?

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actually that is totally the point of them

the point of them is to be intelligent terms that accurately describe a person's color?

step away from the race thread xp

hey there's this new "flag post" feature, you can just hit that button instead of playing thread police, it's really neat

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

no I meant the point was that they are stupid and not really accurate and are used specifically to facilitate stupid/inaccurate generalizations

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

Ehhhh, that just leads to a bunch of "colorblind racism" bullshit.

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

I am uncomfortable when latino coworkers use "negro"

This reminds me of a funny story my dad told me about his coworker, a black man, who is married to a woman from Costa Rica. When they visit his wife's family in the old country, they all call him "negro" as an affectionate term. They mean no offense by this and he is fine with it. This was all fine and dandy until his wife's fam visited him up here and he had to shut them down like "no, you can't call me that here".

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Leave us out of this!"

http://www.labonita1067.com/site/media/k2/items/cache/8da476f72f06a276b1f930cdb28c21f1_XL.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

Can we get "Tumblr White" added as an option on government forms?

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Black is black" is a timeless song!!

the answer to this thread title is really simple. most american white people are totally lame and uncool. that's why smart cool white people from small towns move as fast as they can to new york. that's why cool jazz musicians have to make a living playing music in sweden. sweden! i'm sure they would rather play gigs in ohio if they could get paid well for it. but ohio is lame and doesn't appreciate post-bop AT ALL. european white people are cooler. the smart arty ones anyway. they still have a child-like sense of wonder. and they dress better. and they eat better cheese. this country was founded by and filled with racist lunatic bores. i think we can all agree on that. i'm not saying that european white people - even the arty ones - aren't just as racist in their way as american white people, but the european white people at least make some killer motherfucking shoes. like, amazing footwear, in general.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

amen

flopson, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that's not how I see this country at all. I don't expect Cleveland to have a big turnout for post-bop concerts and I'm not gonna make a bunch of accusations about it because it doesn't.

timellison, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

canadians are pretty chill. as far as white people go. they have a certain dull grace that i find pleasing. and just so you know, i'm nice to normal white people when i encounter them outside. i have manners. plus, the whole there but for the grace of god thing...but i hate almost everything that they stand for. percentage of white america that owns a fatback record: less than 1%. percentage of japanese population that owns a fatback record: 66%. case closed. fuck this place.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

Guys, know what I really hate? How white people dance. What's up with that? It's like, totally lame. And what's up with white people liking all kinds of cheesy stuff like mid 70s Al Stewart and foosball? It's like, wake up white people! You're so lame!!!!

Amirite? Isn't it like totally true?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

foosball was created after the inventor watched a Tottenham Hotspur match. foosball is also known as babyfoot. foosball, tottenham, hotspur, and babyfoot are all really cool names. and al stewart is rad. and there are plenty of great white dancers. so, no, not true.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

I can't help but hear this thread title in a plaintive, Curtis Mayfield-type voice

"We've got brothers killing brothers in gunfights/and white people critcizing one another for being white"

why would she write "argh"? (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

canadians are pretty chill. as far as white people go. they have a certain dull grace that i find pleasing.

I know you're not fishing for compliments, but thanks--it means a lot to us.

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

xpost "we got to find a wayyyy to get together and watch Lena Dunham's show"

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

i'm nice to normal white people when i encounter them outside

i'll bet you get all bill magill with the ecrus, eh

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link

I had a boss who found that damn stupid thingswhitepeopledo.com or whatever it was. Dance to Dave Matthews. Eat mayonnaise sandwiches. Whatever.

And she just goes on and on about how funny it is before confiding to me, "I can share all this with you because we're both white."

I had never had this feeling before. A white person makes a broad assumption about my sense of humor based solely on the color of my skin? I mean, yeah, I've had racists make assumptions before too that I shared their ignorant logic, but that was different. Where the racists may have just been "feeling me out", this woman really thought I'd give a shit about Ally McBeal t-shirts or something from the Sharper Image.

The whole "...because we're both white" thing too... I can't quite put it into words, but maybe it's the closest I can come to being critical of another white person for assessing my whiteness.

I do feel satisfied on the Census forms checking "Non-Hispanic". Not because I have anything against being Hispanic, but because it's easier just to tell people what I'm not. Should be two choices - Native American or Non-Native American.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

"go ahead . . . just take it!"

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link

ssshhhhhh

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

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scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

"A white person makes a broad assumption about my sense of humor based solely on the color of my skin?"

you lead a charmed life. i have experienced this for 40+ years. one of the reasons i hate this dump. except for the pie. pizza and/or fruit-based.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

and the records. i'm well-rounded.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure they would rather play gigs in ohio if they could get paid well for it. but ohio is lame and doesn't appreciate post-bop AT ALL.

I don't expect Cleveland to have a big turnout for post-bop concerts and I'm not gonna make a bunch of accusations about it because it doesn't.

Wait how the shit did my city get dragged into this? And why the shit would two people who have obviously never heard of the Tri-C JazzFest say something so butt-fuckingly stupid?

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I don't know about Cleveland but I go to Akron every year or so and they have a huge jazz following

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

And why the shit would two people who have obviously never heard of the Tri-C JazzFest say something so butt-fuckingly stupid?

Cause they're white

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

What pleasant plains said. Do not assume that because my skin is tan (my mom is so dark people mistake her for Puerto Rican) that I am going to eat your bologna.

Maybe it's not your skin color that makes people think you're hungry for bologna…. mmmm?

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

Hungry4Bologna

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

Just kind of amazing that someone would pick a city that's got a black population at around 53% as the emblem of lame-o whiteness.

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

You don't sound "amazed"

Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

I can share you with this because we're both white *passes the blunt*

Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

*looks around nervously* we're all white here... right? *takes out naked polaroids of wife*

Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

why do white people?

buzza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Just kind of amazing that someone would pick a city that's got a black population at around 53% as the emblem of lame-o whiteness.

― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:11 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

blame Jann Wenner and Drew Carey, i guess

some dude, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

Today I learned that Screamin' Jay Hawkins and Henry Mancini are from the same town.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

Gotta admit though, Henry Mancini was one white motherfucker.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

I can't help but hear this thread title in a plaintive, Curtis Mayfield-type voice

"We've got brothers killing brothers in gunfights/and white people critcizing one another for being white"

― why would she write "argh"? (Hurting 2), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

canadians are pretty chill. as far as white people go. they have a certain dull grace that i find pleasing.

"we got to find a wayyyy to get together and watch Lena Dunham's show"

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

flopson, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

two people who have obviously never heard of the Tri-C JazzFest

Yeah, sorry! I certainly apologize if Cleveland actually draws as big of crowds to *post-bop* concerts as Stockholm does!

I like Cleveland and was sticking up for it.

timellison, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

In the 20's jazz was hot; then they had to water it down for whitey.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Cleveland actually has a pretty active jazz scene and audience -- the aforementioned Tri-C festival, the Cleveland Jazz Orchestra, the Nighttown club, etc. -- and it runs the gamut from trad jazz to big band to bop to post-bop to "cool."

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

The whole steamer thing -- did that come from Cleveland whites or Cleveland blacks?

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

Cleveland browns iirc

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

oh god i swear the double pun only just occured to me after i posted that

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

well played sir

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

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pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't say cleveland i said ohio. cleveland isn't ohio. cleveland is cleveland. almost every state has one measly city where musicians can almost eke out a painful hand to mouth existence playing music. unless its some wheat field like iowa or south dakota. all things being equal though, if i were a jazz musician i'd much rather be in copenhagen then cleveland. they get genius music in copenhagen. i'd actually rather be at nina hagen's house. i hear she makes a mean apple fritter. which i will except in lieu of pie.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

Cleveland is pretty much Ohio. Is it that much worse in Toledo?

timellison, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link


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