After listening to the original Gas for a week solid, I am of the opinion that Voigt fucked with the legacy almost purely because track 3, good as it is, sounds so heavily influenced by Basic Channel.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fuvRcjRLog
― StanM, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
What album by another artist would you suggest if I'm looking for something similar to this?
― crowhurst, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
KOMPAKT Pop Ambient poll
― am0n, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
a couple of the kompakt pop ambient collections, maybe? especially 2007. not all of them are good but 2007 is really beautiful, one of the best imo, and there is even a GAS track on there -- "nach 1912", and it's one of my favorite voigt pieces.
other stuff that also has that ominous, menacing, and really unnerving feeling, imo, is some philip jeck. i was just listening yesterday to the the first tune off jeck's album 7 called "wholesome" and its just spectacular and really minded me of GAS. "wholesome" is not particularly ominous in any way, its gorgeous, but a lot of other philip jeck stuff is certainly pretty foreboding and has a similar feel to some of the darker GAS tunes. i had some other jeck stuff on shuffle yesterday (sands and some others) and i'm thinking that if you like voigt you might like jeck.
― marcos, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
also, maybe this one vladislav delay album, "multila"? (i'm not hugely familiar with the other delay albums)
if you're looking stuff in a similar world to the 4/4 beat GAS songs, i'd also recommend maybe some basic channel. when i first got into GAS i felt like i could listen to spacey ambience w/ a minimal 4/4/ beat for hours and hours and hours, and i did!
― marcos, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
try some yagya (aka Aðalsteinn Guðmundsson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYB0gCOjzgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ogGBfGvzQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_9qXmVf4k
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 26 July 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
when the field debuted 'from here we go sublime' he mentioned in a lot of interviews how heavily influenced he was by voigt/GAS, but tbh i never really felt there were huge sonic similarities, and i definitely never felt like the field was ever in the same ballpark as GAS as far as quality goes
― marcos, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
i forgot about yagya! wow, beautiful, especially that snowflake 7 tune. totally in this vein.
if you guys are familiar with paxahau, the internet radio station based in detroit, they used to play a TON of this kind of stuff, and i just had that station playing all the time. i haven't listened in years so i don't know what kind of stuff they're still playing.
― marcos, Friday, 26 July 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
you might like the album shenzhou by biosphere.
― ( (brimstead), Friday, 26 July 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
really surprised that no one in the world of music criticism has connected the dots between the gas LPs and the music of german electronic pioneer roland kayn. especially his late 70s works like "infra", which have the same submerged, womb like ambience as the darker gas tracks. i mean, throw a high-pass kick drum under this kayn piece and you have it:
http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Nastie-excerpt.mp3
― reassemblage, Saturday, 27 July 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
also for more modern stuff that's similar, check the first porter ricks CD on chain reaction...
― reassemblage, Saturday, 27 July 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
or fluxion.
imho pop has too much light but 6 and 7 is what I expect to listen once I get admitted to heaven.
― wolves lacan, Saturday, 27 July 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link
OK this Yagya stuff is like woah.
― Louie Althusser (Leee), Saturday, 27 July 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
this whole global systems silently moving (rod modell?) album is a decent enough GAS ripoffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsopzdExzE
― brimstead, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:40 PM
i tend not to think this for some reason when i'm not actually listening but zauberberg is super basic channelly on any track w/ a beat
― j., Monday, 12 May 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link
to me, basic channel is all about the electronic pulse and the squiggle, whereas gas is super earthy magic mushroom music.
― brimstead, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link
^might finally tip me over into giving gas another go
― mattresslessness, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
generally sure maybe but i think the first b.c. comp and zauberberg are not far from each other in terms of that distant yet somehow space-filling wooz of sound
― j., Monday, 12 May 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
i would say that "port gentil" by porter ricks is the exact midpoint between gas and basic channel
― brimstead, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link
...or perhaps it just illuminates your point that bc and gas aren't far apart.
― brimstead, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlGppXEc2I
― brimstead, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
track 3 on zauberberg is astonishing, i used to listen to that on loop for hours
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
the rest of zauberbeg (apart from the opening and closing tracks) is a little too dark for me. certainly has a lot of power but i don't find myself going to those tracks a lot. they are amazing though.
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Based on the records I've heard, the American producer Deepchord seems to have built his career on inhabiting the midpoint between Gas and BC.
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 May 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/pqNJd6c1_Hg
(bleep 10 track)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link
I like some of the Deepchord stuff, but a lot of it is sort of unintentionally humorous to me. Like, when they try to approximate BC's atmospheric hiss and it comes out sounding like lawn sprinklers.
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link
trying to buy pop for somebody as a gift but it's OOP & $1ZIL on a bunch of websites. does anybody know where would have it at normal sums?
― schlump, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
The cheapest used copy on Amazon.de is 22 Euros, and the seloer ships overseas. Or do you need a new copy?
― Tuomas, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
second-hand is okay, was hoping it would just be like ... the price of cds ... ten years ago ... minus eight dollars.sorry to bump this thread with such a boring question. had a really nice time listening to gas, recently, teasing apart pop & finding pianos.
― schlump, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
dude just spring a little more and get them nah und fern! that way if they want to hear all of GAS (which they will if you think they'd like pop)then they'll already have it.
it's a good price here: http://www.discogs.com/Gas-Nah-Und-Fern/master/14298and here: http://www.amazon.com/Nah-Und-Fern-Gas/dp/B0018LMKGW
― marcos, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
ooo, hey that's a great idea. i'm broke as hell at the moment but if it doesn't exist otherwise maybe i can talk myself into it. thanks, to both of you, help much appreciated, bringing gases to the masses.
― schlump, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
weird okay nevermind. it says "used & new starting from $35" but when you click on the options they are all outrageously priced
― marcos, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
i ran into this same problem years ago when i couldn't find out where to buy the albums and i ended up buying mp3s from kompakt's site. :( still ended up buying nah und fern to get physical copies
― marcos, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I would suggest Nah und Fern too. The versions of Gas (the debut album) and Königsforst on that comp are slightly inferior to the original albums (Gas has two of its original tracks replaced by new tracks, and Königsforst has some weird sound compression issues in its best track), but the version of Pop on it is pretty much the same as the original album, the only diffrence is that a couple of the tracks are slightly longer on the comp.
― Tuomas, Friday, 14 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
between French horn and bass drum
― j., Sunday, 17 May 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
pop V has a dope summer heat vibe.. like overheated, cooling out in the afternoon. AC on, shades drawn, etc
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 17 May 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
"NationalPark" is very nice. (Perhaps we've had this conversation elsewhere).
― djh, Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link
yeah it is, more pellucid and simple than gas with a cleaner sound
― serene manish (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KeQtXgDnRs
― am0n, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
the fuck
― marcos, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX3z-a5SXo
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
http://experimedia.net/gasbox
― thos beads (jamescobo), Friday, 30 September 2016 06:30 (seven years ago) link
So this version will include the original albums instead of the altered Nah und Fern versions? With the original tracks 1 and 3 on the eponymous first album?
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link
No wait, the description says this:
Inside this comprehensive anthology, listeners will experience Zauberberg (1997), Königsforst (1998), Pop (2000) and the sought-after Oktember 12 inch (1999), all together available as luxurious ten LP and four CD edition.
So the first 1996 album isn't included at all?!
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link
Man, fans of the first album really haven't been treated well, have they? First the Nah und Fern comp replaced tracks 1 and 3 with inferior new tracks, and now it's totally excluded from this one. It seems as if Voigt is embarrassed of it.
I mean, I get it that it's a bit different from the material that followed, because it doesn't have the classical music samples. But it's still an awesome record in its own right!
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:10 (seven years ago) link
The first one is probably my least-favourite of the four but yeah, it's still good. I've only ever heard the Nah und Fern versions of any of these though, wasn't aware of all the track changes.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link
The Nah und Fern version is hurt by the track changes, IMO. The original track 3 in particular is totally cosmic and sublime, whereas the replacement tracks are pretty standard Gas stuff.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link
i love the first album
― marcos, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
I do too. I'm still hoping to get a lot of gas for Christmas in the form of this box set, but it's kind of o_O that they had a second chance to do it right - defined by me as simply releasing all of the music, on vinyl, at full length - and still managed to leave everyone with the feeling that they're not really getting all of the primary gas albums. Sigh
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 September 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link