Daft Punk - Human After All

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SORRY, WRONG THREAD!

JoB (JoB), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the warmth of emotion of that album is certainly not here

Err...'Make Love'. Basically Discovery melted into one track.
With those last three tracks they really seem to go for the 21st century Kraftwerk crown.

Omar (Omar), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

they use the same sounds too much for my liking - great as the sounds are! (the vocoder esp.). i was hoping for MORE, DP continue to frustrate me by not taking the bells and whistles/kitchen sink approach of Basement Jaxx but in spite of that this is still a pretty strong record for dancefloors - The Brainwasher and Technologic should go down well.

One advantage is that this album is much more feasible live than Discovery. But if they tour it, would they play Discovery songs? That would almost be cruel after denying us for so long, but how could they ever play live again and not play anything from Discovery? The alternative is that they never play live again, which may or may not be worse, hmm.

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

haha saying that 'Emotion' has a bassline and general plod not unlike 'Feels Like Home' from Kish Kash!

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i just can't quite agree with how they feel about progression vs/via monotony. i mean WHY does more not happen in 'Emotion'? WHY do they seem to favour this 'progression via monotony' approach? i'm not satisfied by a 'because it doesn't NEED anything else' response, i think it would be better with something more. 'six week albums' is a neat concept but i'd rather they'd spent at least six months on this if they're going to do it at all. i think time IS a factor. not that this sounds 'bashed out quickly' completely (tho it does to an extent). there are moments on 'Homework' I did find boring because the monotony was too much, other times it was okay. It's not a problem on 'Discovery' because half of it is song-based and the tracks are brief (with the exception of 'Too Long' which i'm not really a fan of either!). Here they've stretched them again and it's stretching it maybe too far for me, tho I'd give this album 7 out of 10 overall and the good bits are VERY VERY GOOD INDEED.

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Omar's comment re Kraftwerk rings true for me as I still cannot really stand to listen to their most repetetive, nagging stuff, however sweet it can be sonically (as is the case with 'Emotion' which has lovely vocoder, that frog-like blurping bass and the major pads and the trusted 'one step up at a time' progression)

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Goddammit. "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" is based largely on an Edwin Byrdsong sample but it fucks with it mightily after a minute. "Robot Rock" is the first few seconds of that Breakwater track, and nothing more. Thanks for telling me there's no motherfucking Santa Claus, Jed. Hope you're pleased with yourself.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm also wondering if there will be an unofficial remix version available on the same day HAA is released to follow the recent unofficial Prodigy and Chemical brothers remix editions. i may ask mr cryonmyconsole about this...

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

after listening to this five times through, i'm inclined to say it's a bit disappointing overall, with the caveat being that, as steve says, the good parts are very very good.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

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Back in Denim

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh i just listened to the opening title track again and i really do love it, once it really gets going.

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve M, I think you are on the mark. I would hesistate to say they phoned it in, but I do think the 6 week recording time hurt them. Although it's only been two listens, I don't know how much depth there is to these songs. It's certainly very catchy and well-produced, but I was hoping DP would give us more than just a series of tracks that rely on one or two big riffs throughout the entire song. After waiting 4 years to get an album with 9 straight-forward tracks (and one interlude,) I feel a bit cheated.

"Technologic" is the one that really upsets me. It's such a pale retread of "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger," right down to the lyrics, which go: "buy it / use it / break it / fix it / trash it / change it / now upgrade it."

Still, "Human After All" and "Robot Rock" and "Make Love" (which strangely reminds me of the intro to "Little Red Corvette") are all g-r-e-a-t.

After writing this I am wondering if some of the cuts are looped versions of the real tracks.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

advance word from a friend: "on/off is ace. best best. makes me cry. more emotional than one more time."

-- mark p (mark.p****...), January 17th, 2005 9:50 PM

lol

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, that is pretty classic

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah wtf!!

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

that track is a cow's heart, he was tryna make a monkey out of you!

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I am happy with 'disappointing over all but the good parts are very good indeed' because that's exactly how I felt about Discovery (the second half in particular).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i look forward to inevitable your 'this is great you mentalists!' post ;)

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm wondering if this IS a loop leak.
I'm buying the final in any case; if this is just looped beats, it's the best loop I've heard.
Still getting comfortable with this suckah but oh so excited. It just gloms on with the first listen, moreso than anything I can remember since Katamari.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish 'Human After All' was the single, not that it would really do any better

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

sigh. i like it, but i don't love it. i think it will take a few more listens to settle in. i agree with stevem -- the good parts are really good, but it is a little disappointing.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the first song sounds like trans am.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 January 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Human After All" is my new favorite song - it's really beautiful. The rest is amazing, if not brain-bending like my first run through of Discovery.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yeah, certainly not as oh-my-god-what-is-this-my-brain-is-melting instant fun of Discovery, but still a really good molding of Homework and Discovery. The short time spent on the album only works wonders on the music; it feels so fresh, spontaneous and fun in a equally stressed-out/mellow way. I just can't stop listening to it.

JakeWithBrain!, Monday, 24 January 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Brilliant idea: make the video for "Human After All" as the iTunes visualization of same.
Save a LOT of money.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Um OK this album is pretty fucking great. It's not the SAME as discovery which is apparently what some of you were hoping but I love how the opening track is like Felix's "Neon Human" except way better, and I loved "neon human"!!!

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys are all secret trans am fans.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Not yet, but I'm probably gonna go check em out if they sound like this!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

You might be disappointed.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how abrasive this album is compared to the last one!

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it but have to say, I hope the next one is less abrasive!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Would it be wrong to say this is a more chicago house-style album?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, maybe just steam machine.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

My original post was a long ass affair, in which I think the words "great" and "mentalists" were employed.

The USE-ness of the title track aside, I'm generally feeling the 5 other tracks I heard ('Make Love' must be a fake-out looper tho').

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does the title track wait until the final minute to interest me more?

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this very easily could have been a ten-track, 65 minute album. i wonder if it would have been better for it?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

err...no, the actual length is perfect. Totally in tune with the abrasive quality of the music.

Jackwithbrain OTM in re. freshness, etc.

Omar (Omar), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe ppl were hating on "Technologic." Its time for the percolator.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahah this is gonna be just like discovery where everyone hates on it them comes around in the end, I can tell.

Oh man the synths on the last track are so wonderful.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Shall I'll take the honours then and proclaim it my album of the year? :) (I mean I did say Discovery was one of the best album ever, after a couple of listens IIRC. ;)

Omar (Omar), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope it sounds like Surrender to the Night!
many xposts

Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope this isn't like devin dazzle where i hate on it and then later hate on it even more

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It is very lonely being the only person on ILM who doesn't think Daft Punk are dance messiahs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(AKA "Dan is very predicatably unmoved by Daft Punk the further they get from 'Revolution 909'" redux.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think they're dance messiahs, m'friend, but I have to say so far it all sounds really great. Then again I'm only a couple of songs in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

they're indie messiahs!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Stereolab did release a song or two by Darlin' back in 1993, so there ya go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The last track is making me euphoric.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again I'm only a couple of songs in.

ha, exactly what i thought. incidentally, as much as i love the idea of 'Discovery' being the best album in years on paper (apart from Kid A and Loveless obviously), it never was for me. i will probably love Human After All as much as Discovery seeing as how my reaction to Discovery the first time is pretty similar to how i'm feeling about HAA now.

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

steam machine reminds me of NIN!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)


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