Weirdly, listening to Loveless makes me think of Super Metroid. SAWII is synonymous with Five Letters From An Eastern Empire in my mind
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Sunday, 10 June 2012 02:16 (thirteen years ago)
wll u know yr the same old hangman who ratnalises hope
― typhus in Corfu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 June 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry, did I say 'ten'? I meant 'twenty.'
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:34 (twelve years ago)
it's about time he put a new record out!
― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:37 (twelve years ago)
Ned, you bastard. I've been patiently waiting for years to make a parody thread about how it's 10 years since the '10 years since SAW II' thread started.
― If it was up to the unions we still have stream trains (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:48 (twelve years ago)
Zing.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:50 (twelve years ago)
Just wait for the thirty year event.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:51 (twelve years ago)
Well, I'll have to now
― If it was up to the unions we still have stream trains (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:52 (twelve years ago)
Still one of my ten favourite albums.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:52 (twelve years ago)
I love this album (duh), and it's one of the few that I prefer to listen to digitally. My freshmen year in undergrad I had a weird moment with the second disc, late at night. I was kind of bumping my head against my computer monitor repeatedly with my eyes closed when my roommate walked in. If he didn't already, he identified me as a total weirdo from there on out.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:54 (twelve years ago)
lol, my dog is losing his shit at "Radiator"
― lewd, pulsating rhythm 4 lyfe (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 18:23 (twelve years ago)
Looking forward to reading the 33 1/3 that is about to be released (or is now available?).
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 20:50 (twelve years ago)
Amazon delivered my preorder a couple weeks ago. It's good. I'm glad he doesn't go track-by-track.
― cristalnacht (lukas), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 22:02 (twelve years ago)
I recently burned a 3CD version of this with the non-cd tracks inserted.. each CD corresponds to each vinyl disc. fun permutations, recontexified
― brimstead, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:04 (twelve years ago)
which are the other nine, marcello?
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:06 (twelve years ago)
Anyway in celebration -- um, me:
http://thequietus.com/articles/14552-aphex-twin-selected-ambient-works-volume-ii-review
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 February 2014 13:53 (twelve years ago)
Brilliant album. I wish I had more things like this in my collection, and that more things were out there that conjure this atmosphere.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 20 February 2014 15:37 (twelve years ago)
Bought this on vinyl when it came out, brown vinyl which became unlistenable after a few plays. Listened to this again a few weeks back and couldn't get into it
― X-101, Thursday, 20 February 2014 15:51 (twelve years ago)
The legendary unplayable vinyl. I mention in the article how I heard people complaining about that from the get-go online.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 February 2014 16:13 (twelve years ago)
I have the brown vinyl too and it's a mess of crackle and surface noise.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 20 February 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)
Ned - is that Marc Weidenbaum book worth buying?
― If it was up to the unions we still have stream trains (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:12 (twelve years ago)
I've not read the whole thing but what I've seen is good stuff. As a friend noted, the fact that he's not doing it track by track is a plus. Marc also mentioned this tidbit over on FB in response to my article:
"Rhubarb" is a favorite, up there with "White Blur I." I have a small chunk of text in the book specifically about "Rhubarb," about my sense of how in essence the main thing that "happens" in the track is that what begins as a five-note phrase becomes a six-note phrase. As melodic development goes, that is way minimal, to say the least. In the course of my research I interviewed two musicians (one in San Francisco, another in Portland) who had independent of each other transcribed "Rhubarb" for solo acoustic guitar, but in the end I had no room in the book (35,000 words total) to fit their comments in appropriately.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)
Give it another spin thanks to this thread. I think I'm coming around to it now.
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 February 2014 21:20 (twelve years ago)
i never got into this, not 20 years ago, not ten years ago and not now. the cd in six words: too much repetition, too few ideas.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 21 February 2014 10:22 (twelve years ago)
I still have the double cassette that I bought from King’s Road Our Price at the time and it still plays perfectly. Soundtracked innumerable Oxford Tube coach journeys and psychogeographic wanderings around London. An awesomely emotional album, I feel.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 21 February 2014 10:32 (twelve years ago)
Like many ITT I dug this out again for the first time in years. So much I'd forgotten about it. Obviously Rhubarb is the stately easy-listening highlight, but this is a really diverse album. I fell asleep after about three songs, woke up at 4:30am with all the lights on. Woops.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 10:47 (twelve years ago)
I still prefer SAW85-92 but every time I listen to this album (yup, me too last night) I start out going "why do I even like this, it's so flimsy, so nothingy" and by the end I'm like "THAT WAS AMAZING HOW DID HE DO THAT."
I am all about Shiny Metal Rods. Always.
― Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 11:16 (twelve years ago)
(It is funny how we all just know and use the "fan fiction" names.)
― Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 11:21 (twelve years ago)
To be honest I don't really know it by the FF names, I'm more likely to know songs by track number.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 11:44 (twelve years ago)
this is still one of the best suites of music ever recorded and, y'know, the album is not on trial here etc
― we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:09 (twelve years ago)
Who said it was?
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:12 (twelve years ago)
people who comment to bury the album rather than praise it
― we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:16 (twelve years ago)
People having different opinions about a record! Who'd've thunk it?
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:17 (twelve years ago)
Added this on my tumblr after reading numerous comments yesterday -- some of the ones just now could have fit in. (Plus the Macross still, but it's not just about that.)
http://nedraggett.tumblr.com/post/77298022831/well-having-teased-the-mention-of-this-macross
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 February 2014 12:19 (twelve years ago)
xp
i think it's one of those records that, more than most, reflects back on the listener. but of course you're very right, it's important to respect other people's opinions
― we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:24 (twelve years ago)
No it's not, this album's brilliant.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2014 12:27 (twelve years ago)
NV OTM, this is like the ultimate Juddian shiny metal box album. Which is one of its strengths, IMO. Everyone who looks into it sees something different.
(Sensitive to faith, not denial, but hey who's on trial?)
― Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:38 (twelve years ago)
I wanted to start a thread asking who is today's equivalent of RDJ. It feels like for all electronic music's range, there's no one working today who matches him in terms of innovation, breadth of scope and also humour. Is it worth starting a thread?
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:47 (twelve years ago)
I want to start a thread completely DECONSTRUCTING the idea that "today" has or even needs to have the "equivalent" of previous era's artists. I'm so sick of this meme!
― Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:59 (twelve years ago)
Agreed. It's not like "Didgeridoo" or "Come To Daddy" get played regularly/at all on the Ken Bruce Show! Also it puts an unfair and unwarranted burden on people who ARE trying to do something new and different now. Hacker Farm and Stella OM Source are brilliant but they are not remotely Today's RDJ, nor should they be expected or set up to be.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:29 (twelve years ago)
Quite right. Please, this isn't a 'meme' though, or at least it's not meant to be one.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:41 (twelve years ago)
I'm not saying there ought to be an equivalent, but RDJ and his work and his attitude really does feel like a one-off and I can't think of any other electronic artist who comes close, which is kind of amazing considering how early his involvement was in techno/ambient/IDM and just how many boundaries he pushed back then.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:44 (twelve years ago)
Talking about this here now:
What Is The "What Is The X Of Today" Of Today? Why is this meme so bad and hated?
― Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:46 (twelve years ago)
okay, well i didn't mean it as part of any meme, i was genuinely interested to see if anyone could think of anyone who came close. I mean, I was thinking maybe Oneohtrix (who I don't like much) could count in some way; maybe even Actress, but again much as those are respected and thoughtful artists, I don't think their scopes are anywhere near as broad.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:52 (twelve years ago)
mu-Ziq IMO, a much under-rated producer. And yes all comparisons are invidious etc. etc.
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)
who is the Nicolas Jaar of the early nineties?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:30 (twelve years ago)
Ken Downie (jks)
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:37 (twelve years ago)
went to Marc Weidenbaum's SF reading for his 33 1/3 book. read from it, had a couple musicians do cool live stuff, answered some questions. asked him if he had thoughts about why Aphex never returned to this style. he kinda contradicted himself, first admitting this album really stands alone, then saying that actually, it was a rhythmic / melodic work like the rest, and that far from abandoning the style, after SAW II Aphex built on what he accomplished there.
not sure if i agree, but interesting to think about.
― ugh (lukas), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:09 (twelve years ago)
i guess this is old news to SAW II fans, but i realized today that "Parallel Stripes" is basically just a binaural beat. it's not hard to tell that it's two very similar sine waves phasing in and out against each other, but i imagine that RJD had binaural beats' alleged effects on brain functions in mind when he made it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)
http://www.kallbinauralaudio.com/crosstalk-cancellation-or-why-dr-edgar-choueiri-is-my-hero-part-2/
coming soon: loudspeakers capable of playing back binaural audio
― Milton Parker, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)