Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

Doran if you would stop being so viciously defensive and actually looked at the things you were saying...

I didn't put the word vitriolic in quotes.

You have just admitted that you make sexist, racist and homophobic comments on a public internet forum.

That is not what I said at all.

I said that I am soaking in a culture that is so deeply seeped in racism and sexism and homophobia, that some of my first, subconscious reactions to things are informed by the racism, sexism and homophobia of the culture I live in. I am not separate from my culture or my society. I breathe this stuff the same as everyone else does.

Rather than give in to those learned impulses, I TRY to examine things, from my own perspective, and from the shared experiences of others, BEFORE I type or hit submit on an internet forum. It doesn't always work, I often have to be corrected, especially on issues of race and class. But the difference is, I acknowledge that this society is often racist and classist, I admit that bias, I try to correct it, and I move on. I don't carry on still insisting that other people are somehow out to get me, or "violent" because they point out that these things exist. That's an asshole move.

Yet that's exactly the move that you are playing on me, when I suggest that society's ideas about women *might* be affecting the criticisms you raise about a female artist.

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You claim that you're stopping to read other people's posts before hitting submit but you just aren't. I said you were accusing me of talking violently, with vitriol and being vicious.

I shouldn't have put the word "violent" in quotes but the sentiment still stands.

Look, as far as I can tell I'm reading everything that you say very closely and you're not doing the same with me. If you don't stick exactly to what I've said and done there's no point in carrying on.

If you want me to I can get back to answering all the points in your first, giant post of today if you like.

No. This is where I walk away from the argument because we've been butting heads for nearly a decade now, you just accuse me of things you do (and I no doubt do the same) and this isn't solving anything.

It does not matter to me if you answer or not. Have a nice life.

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Wait, I know you? Who are you? I have no idea literally. Someone from the Plan B messageboard? Or OTF? Those being the only places I've argued with people online.

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Jesus Christ I hope people aren't responding to the image if that's what it looks like because her image is fucking terrible. It reminds me of those Klaxons style hipster wizard suits.

I'm sorry to be a pedant but for the record I said personality which is a combination of image and many other things in this context. Sorry, but you can probably see why I'm a bit jumpy about this now.

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#seapunk

so Grimes is opening for the Lips in New Orleans on their record-breaking gig attempt whatever thing.

was going to b**** about her skipping DC but just noticing that she's playing here with Elite Gymnastics in September so fuckin' get in

For the sake of my mental health I hope they don't make a video together.

should be an ILX fap at the lips/grimes show, everyone can talk a few things over in the bar beforehand

For the sake of my mental health I hope they don't make a video together.

A+

cmon clusterfuck supernova would be fun while it/we lasted.

naw

friend of mine doesn't like this artist because iho it is "lifestyle music"

The lifestyle of being 23 and going thrifting?

I always think that's one of the daftest kind of criticisms people make. all music is lifestyle music, there's no escaping it.

later the same night he put on ariel pink though :-/

i def think some music is more "lifestyle music" than other, but it's definitely a neutral characteristic rather than a solid basis of, like, dismissal

fuck everyone

I dunno, even bland, regular guy music is 'bland, regular guy music'

although I guess there are varying degrees of awareness of this. like bro-punk bands that are "y'know, just playing music"... which of course means music that reflects their lifestyle and sounds like a musical personification of their character/culture

somehow this is a real thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=ScPaXIyb3SA

huh, all it took was one kreayshawn collab to kill this thread

Or just a lack of any new music or exciting performances?

Still loving the album. Incredibly excited about a recent twitter exchange that suggests that Claire and le1f might be recording something together. Waiting to see what happens next.

her music has that chillwave someone singing along to the radio thing going on, which is pretty i think limting

but she some cool qualities

"Skin" is kind of transcendent, really.

But this whole album creeped up on me unexpectedly, having initially dismissed it as vapidly pretty.

i like to think that i would have gone to grimes skrillex diplo had i been in town, going to be insane

no grimes skrillex diplo is the name of my dog

Driving in for Pitchfork today mostly to see her. Hoping it'll be a good show; she has a headlining-ish slot

She played Toronto last night w/Diplo and Skrillex. Didn't go but I chatted with some random attendees afterward: "oh yah she was cool but we were there to see Skrill". Skrill? OK!

lol :-)

next unlikely touring lineup can be The (Skrill) Ex.

that would be p dope if he officially changed his name to "SKRILL" at some point

Sounds like fish food to me

Skrill (ex-Skrillex)

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Performance on Jimmy Fallon's show last night was way boring, but after the song and after he shook Claire's and her dancer's hands and ran up into the audience, they huddled on the stage and started jumping up and down and giggling. It was cute.

drugs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY

can someone tell Mortiis his wife's got out of the cave and is running about in the desert?

bitches must be dreading a hit these days if they're gonna get driven out to wear outfits in the desert every time

― r|t|c, Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:42 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark

Yeah yeah - song is still great though.