Who the fuck is talking about the listener? Listener has no dog in this fight.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i think shes coming off better than he is here
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:49 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
poll
― liars - wkiw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
oh, so what role are the posters in this thread taking? professional professionalism professors?
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella 29 May
Those nude photos posted by Wayne (flaming lips) are of the beautiful Nayrok my lil sister and bestee.We do look alike.Video looks cosmic.
ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella 04 June
Official Flaming Lips Vid discussion. How does it make u feel? Astetically, What does it make u fear? Anger?Joy?Freedom?Disgust? Discuss.
She retweets a bunch of comments on it, discusses it with people. If she had asked them to remove it multiple times, it doesn't really show in her twitter account.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
also professionals do not say "bestee," i mean c'mon.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Her attacking his wife is pretty lame.Sonic Violence @SonicViolencelol @pitchforkmedia playin up this @waynecoyne and @fatbellybella shit. Really? Minutely updates? Yall are strapped for content.
19h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@SonicViolence cause @pitchforkmedia and @waynecoyne are closer friends than @pitchforkmedia and @fatbellybella +Wayne's old ass needs this.
19h MichelleMartin-Coyne MichelleMartin-Coyne @mzmartincoyneWayne has the ass of a 26 yr old&would never be 6hrs late for a shoot. @fatbellybella @sonicviolence @pitchforkmedia @waynecoyne
18h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@mzmartincoyne hi was wondering when u were gonna sober up and say somethin.your husbands an ass and u know it-tell the truth.Do not lie.
18h MichelleMartin-Coyne MichelleMartin-Coyne @mzmartincoyneLove the video!think you&your sister are stunning!Your track is my favorite! I'm a lover not a fighter @fatbellybella http://pic.twitter.com/7kICNuLW
18h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@mzmartincoyne all good.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
We are all just rubberneckers.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Because, in direct violation of the agreement they made when she and her sister agreed to do the video, she was not granted a viewing or a say on a video that contains naked shots of both her sister and herself before it was blasted out to the public?
If the beef was just "you picked my shitty vocal" you would have a halfway defensible point, but in what universe is the person who said "so you are comfortable doing this video, we will show you the video so you can give input on it before it goes out there... *waits for door to close* *uploads to Pitchfork* *snickers on Twitter*" the more professional person here?
OTM x 1 million
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
uh it looks like coyne's wife got involved first
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
Basically Erykah Badu is being needlessly vindictive and Wayne & his wife are trying to be positive/cute about the whole situation. Of course if you think the Lips are brain dead hippies and Badu is a deep artist, then...
Eh, I'm tired of thinking about this. Gonna leave this thread. Most of you guys are siding with EB anyways, which I really don't understand. Have fun the rest of the day with this.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
EB got what she wants, the video was taken down, like a week or so after it was uploaded, retweeted by her, commented on by her fans, etc. Now she is using the opportunity to trash talk this guy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Dudes they had already taken it down before the whole rant!
Good thing it was retracted before it started floating around the internet so that no one will ever, ever see it.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
I know that when I'm trying to be positive and cute about a touchy subject, I say things like:
Wayne has the ass of a 26 yr old&would never be 6hrs late for a shoot. @fatbellybella @sonicviolence @pitchforkmedia @waynecoyne
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
Next time, Adam, just post "D" re: thread title and be done with it.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
"positive/cute"!!!!!!! gtfo with that twee hippie bs
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe if Badu hated the video so much she shouldn't have been retweeting about it for the past week!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
bye yall have fun at your serious art integrity party
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
Rangers v Celtic
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
Have "fun" listening to Flaming Lips' Justin Bieber slowed down 800 percent jamz.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
lol wait was EB tweeting links to the vid w/out having watched it? #confused
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
heh fair number of posters itt seem to be p biased here huh
i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here. -30-
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
Don't cloud the issues like that.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
there might be a p different ilx convo happening if a flaming lips thread was revived first
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
i'm just gonna throw it out there that this old white dude using black womens' bodies for publicity is extra icky
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeaaaahhhh...I'm not touching that comment with a ten foot pole.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here.
This is absolutely right.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
Old white dude is whopping ten years older than Badu.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
once again i have go to ONTD for my faith in humanity to be restored. the kids there get it http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/69533898.html
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
tbf he's used bodies of all ages and races, including his own, to get publicity in reason years.
but besides that, i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
ugh ONTD is one of the most vacuous corners of the whole internet.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Coyne brings to mind The Genius of the Crowd by Charles Bukowski. '..and the best at hate are those who preach love'.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
The controversy over the video is a bit of a storm in a tea cup really but I do like both of them artists so feel that it's a shame the collaboration is musically so mediocre. Time was when I would have been desperate to hear this... but it's a bit... pshhhhh.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry to hear that a cover of a 40+ year-old cover of a song (that was already 20+ years old when Roberta Flack covered it) isn't miiiiiindblowingly raaaaaadical enough for some people. I think it's a really nice logical progression of Flack's version, which was already slow and expansive and had somewhat of a narcotic quality to it. I love her version so much, and these folks have done all right by it, imho.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with you 100%. Time was when this collaboration would have promised more than nice.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
song is okay, not great. more ambient than pop, but that's a reasonable approach afaic. the video is (was) rather sexy, but not particularly interesting beyond that.
sad to read about the ensuing blow-up, but it's hard not to side with EB. if she was supposed to approve the vid before it was published, and wasn't allowed to and felt violated by the leaked version, then she's in the right - period, regardless of other issues.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
"miiiiiindblowingly raaaaaadical" would be one thing, but competent would be nice?
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
^
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
yep
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Friday, 8 June 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
Truly amazing.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
Why? A video in which the men are clothed and get to look dignified while the women are naked hyper-sexualised doesn't strike you as icky? Quite frankly I'm fine with uploading nude material without the subject's consent being a criminal offense.
― Jedmond, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
First of all, nobody looks "dignified" in that video. Regardless, Erykah Badu and The Flaming Lips collaborated on a music video where she, and/or her twin sister, sit nude in a tub and cover themselves with glitter, blood, and semen. As has been established, we DON'T KNOW the context of this fight. Talking about it as a question of consent is borderline irresponsible. My real groan, though, was at Lex's racial angle, which - with its suggestion of one-sided exploitation - is cheaper and more tawdry than anything either of the artists have engaged in.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
Re-read what you just wrote. Nobody looks dignified in the video. But I'll focus on describing the two women sitting nude in a tub and covering themselves with glitter, blood and semen.
And discussing it as a question of consent isn't borderline irresponsible, it's what this entire thing is about. This is what Badu alleges, and this is what Coyne concedes. That isn't Lex's only angle and hardly worth belatedly quoting as if it was immediately obvious that Lex's point was ludicrous. And the idea that Lex's comment is cheaper and more tawdry than that video is laughable.
― Jedmond, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
What I want to know is where they got all that semen.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
I think that you finding the idea that Lex's comment is cheaper and more tawdry than that video laughable laughable. We'll all laugh about this someday! Except for that racist rapist. Lock 'im up!
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
Hmmm that's not what Lex said
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
No, you're right. The cheap and tawdry last part of my post was about a lot of posts. But this old white dude using black womens' bodies for publicity is just some flat out bullshit.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
How is that not what Coyne is doing?
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus Christ. My issue is with the racial angle in that post, and what it implies, which is unfounded and ugly. And if there's exploitation at play here, it's *overwhelmingly* mutual.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
how so?
― da croupier, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know either party's motivation for collaborating, but can't imagine it was ever a cynical move (I mean, she says "I have not one need for publicity. I just love artistic dialogue" in her posts). Before this whole thing, both Erykah and Wayne were Tweeting things about admiring each other's work. But both always stood to gain from the collaboration itself (as both have gained from the ensuing drama). This isn't some Linda Lovelace/Ordeal thing - the issue is over the final cut of the video, and we still don't know the actual circumstances surrounding that.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link