fiona apple - the idler wheel is wiser than the driver of the screw and whipping cords will serve you more than ropes will ever do (2012)

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Like the song, voice sounds weirdly raspy.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:36 (fourteen years ago)

I think I need to get used to whatever it is she's doing with her voice in this song.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:41 (fourteen years ago)

Im indifferent to most of her songs but First Taste is one of the sexiest songs of the 90s.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

I don't see any relation between her and Alanis Morissette? Humourless female singer songwriters both of them but their voices and their music don't sound alike at all.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

Fiona Apple is humorless?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

There's a lot of dark humor in When The Pawn and Extraordinary Machine.

In other news, I'm pretty sure this album is going to kill me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fby632bPn0E&feature=youtu.be

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:40 (fourteen years ago)

eh whatever http://youtu.be/Fby632bPn0E

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:41 (fourteen years ago)

i'm heartily amused by the critical attention (rightly) being lavished on her atm! this was not the case in the 90s, iirc everyone just called her an alanis morissette clone o_0

Tidal finished 35th on Pazz & Jop, and "Criminal" was the #11 single, so it's not like critics were universally dismissing her.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, and When the Pawn finished 7th!

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, the whole "finally, my peers are getting into fiona apple / i was always into fiona apple" thing that perpetua/lex have been throwing around rings false b/c i was a total unnuanced indie fuck when i bought when the pawn and i bought it based on the critical attention

but i was also like 14 so i dunno

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i remember tons of people being excited about when the pawn hits when it came out (i think i was a freshman in college?). seems like she's always been a step cooler than morrissette and her ilk.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

full album stream yay!

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=154422085&m=154351745

uberweiss, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:47 (fourteen years ago)

:D

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, this is marvelous.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:58 (fourteen years ago)

who is drumming on this record

i would like to give it up for that drummer

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:51 (fourteen years ago)

in the past few years I've seen her live a bunch of times and she's just so fuckin talented, I'm not even a fan of her recorded material or anything it's just like her shit's so undeniable when you see her idk

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:58 (fourteen years ago)

BradNelson, it's Charley Drayton, who co-produced the album with her.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:38 (fourteen years ago)

yesyesyesyesyes this album

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

the rounds on "hot knife" i just sat there looking at my speakers going OMGOMG silently to myself

the LYRICS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

the ARRANGEMENTS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

This is great. "Hot Knife" is crazy good, though hard to pick a favorite so far.

Regional Tug (irrational), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

remember when we argued on the concept of regret?
you were an expert even then but not me, not yet
now all you gotta do's remind me that we met

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I don't think anyone was expecting Hot Knife at all.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

Judging by "Hot Knife" and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO31CyFlTI

Fiona and her sister should together more often.

This album is tremendous.

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 05:22 (thirteen years ago)

LOL

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270904_10151792056115018_604816896_n.jpg

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

That's ...ironic?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

haha

i think characterising apple's lyrics as "bottomless pit of despair" might be even worse though. do they not hear her humour?

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh look we're back to using adverbs like "bewitchingly" to describe woman piano music

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

this album isn't very bewitching, it's odd and sparse and more unvarnished than anything she's done before

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

I think I like it less now. But Hot Knife is still amazing and my favorite thing she's done in years.

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

I never expected those bouncy 1920s jazz vocal harmonies after some of the hyper-dissonant stuff that came earlier in the record. Also, with different production, it could be a Destiny's Child song.

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

huh

maybe I should have paid more attention to the rest of Fiona Apple's career

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

ok wow "hot knife"

"he makes my heart a cinemascope"!!

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

That's a great line!

He makes my heart a cinemascope screen showing a dancing bird of paradise

...or something.

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

ehhhh ilm has never been into young female singer-songwriters though, has it

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:22 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where would women in music be without their sister lex taking care of them?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

xp "he excites me! must be like the genesis of rhythm" is an amazing line as well

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

<3

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

the arrangements on this are kind of like if she took her ornate rococo brion-era arrangements and took 3/4 of the stuff out but left the essential heartbeat in

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

also how ridiculous that an album with "hot knife" as its most immediately talked-about song is getting these "OH SHE'S SO MISERABLE" reviews

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

I think for 'Bottomless pit of despair' read 'The most self obsessed person ever to make music...I mean nobody's wretched love life is that interesting....

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

musician formerly in bad relationship uses experience as creative fodder, film at 11

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh go90s flashbacks! the "all these wretched female singer-songwriters are so self-absorbed and they remind me of that crazy girl i dated once" line is pretty much the reason i rejected the music press from an early age

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

Anybody...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

no. you're alone, all alone, sonnyboy.

Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

great album. kind of aggressively weird, I haven't heard this many jazz piano chords on a pop album ever.

akm, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

Really? I find her melodies dull and undistinguished for the first time. She's singing well though (e.g. the last two tracks). I've played it pretty much non-stop since last Thursday.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

i've listened to this twice. not sure what to make of it yet

right now, i'm thinking it emphasizes rhythm too much, sometimes at the expense of melody.

really digging the warmth/brightness of anything we want, though

buh, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

so far "Anything We Want," "Werewolf," and "Periphery" are the standouts

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i'd agree with those three, and add every single night

i want to like hot knife, but those layered vocals kind of annoy me

buh, Monday, 18 June 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

Those layered vocals are my favorite thing about that song.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

Wildbirds and Peacedrums

faghetti (fgti), Friday, 22 August 2014 23:37 (eleven years ago)

Cousins: Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss America and Jesca Hoop's Silverscreen Demos.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 04:02 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

listening to this album a lot recently, and it is still so singular and great.

every record fiona makes is the perfect record for that time in my life.

dc, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:08 (ten years ago)

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:17 (ten years ago)

Do love this record so very much.

Austin, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:46 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

fiona really elevates this andrew bird song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwtWExDmoI

dc, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:21 (ten years ago)

On my shortlist for favorites of the year.

Austin, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:45 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

forgot how fucking good this album is.

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:26 (eight years ago)

one of the best wordsmiths to ever grace music

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:39 (eight years ago)

seven months pass...

I can only take the deep dive back into this album after I've had some time away from it, but boy oh boy when I do...

'Left Alone' hitting like a hammer atm. Feeling you, Fee-Fee.

Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)

same here old lunch - last time i put this on was dec. in the xposts there, but i had not heard it since the tour and shit i forgot how good it is - the biggest shame is how fiona seems to have no intention of releasing a new record, but only stray singles like left hand kisses - based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)

i'm sure she'll drop a new record, but the gaps are getting wider between each one. considering how much of her soul she puts into each one, i can't really blame her for not wanting to go through that experience more than once or twice a decade.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)

otm

seeing her live twice was amazing, she is such a great performer and the audience loves her infinitely.

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)

I was actually just talking about how good this album is the other day

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)

her poetry is super on point on this one (is on all of them obviously) and i admire how the record uses field recordings and avant-garde methods to create such raw, powerful songs

Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)

'Regret' is a raging blast furnace that reduces me to ash, every time.

Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)

otm

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)

"based on articles it seems she is content to live in her trailer property and smoke hash all day ymmv"

who can blame her

akm, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)

not me

sounds ideal

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

i had a very bad week/month which had a lot to do with trying to reconnect with an ex and i think i should've been listening to this album the whole time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:00 (seven years ago)

Good idea

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)

even the "fuck you you complete asshole" songs on this one are so nuanced

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)

otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)

I spent August 2012 listening to this album in a loop

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)

Much of the album seems to be Fiona waving the listener away from the false door labelled "closure" and toward the real door labelled "get the fuck out"

― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, November 30, 2018 4:16 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nothin wrong when a song ends in a minor key

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

my ills are reticulate
my woes are granular
the ants weigh more than the elephants

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)


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