i like Miniature Sun, especially the moment where the uneasy circular chord progression from the verses briefly collapses into a cute pop thing in the middle eight
― ciderpress, Friday, 1 June 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
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Yeah, that's a magic moment, because when it returns to the uneasy chord progression it makes the following verse feel even more 'uneasier'. Which of course fits with the lyrical content perfectly!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
Are those synth horns, or Mark Isham's trumpet treated? Or is that the same thing? At any rate, relistening and reading the words to "Miniature Sun," which I've never done (did all my listening to this one in the car.) Good lyrics, but the music is still a bit "fusion and prog" as noted above. Just kinda not my thing, and I do think the album starts to lag by the end of its 60 minutes, or my attention starts to wane.
― Soccer mom, hopeless and lost, in utter despair (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
Even I never know where I go when my eyes are closed -- Chalkhills and Children is all about dreaming and floating over strange lands. Dreamy and slow. I like it.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe the best use of the saw lead ever
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
On the contrary, 'Chalkhills And Children' is about keeping oneself grounded(!)
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Ha, I guess I'm not very good at that or I would have realized that myself. I only focused on the dreamy parts. Oops.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
i like miniature sun for the reason noted upthread, not as good as i remember the sun but a similar vibe
― buzza, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:40 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, "Chalkhills and Children" is all about HOW AWESOMELY AWESOME DREAM LIKE IS LIFE IN...SWINDON.
It's also the only really good song on the second half of Oranges & Lemons. (By the way, O&L has my favourite XTC album cover art for all none of you who were wondering.)
― Gentlemen Take Instagram Photos (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 2 June 2012 07:21 (fourteen years ago)
bosh. "merely a man" is all-time and "across this antheap" comes close (too bad about that last minute). would love to hear the latter done as it might have been circa the big express. and i just love "pink thing", o_0 lyrics and all.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 07:46 (fourteen years ago)
"Across this Antheap" is so goddamn good it can reduce me to tears.
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 2 June 2012 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
"across this antheap" comes close (too bad about that last minute)
what god no that last minute is the best part!
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 2 June 2012 14:38 (fourteen years ago)
Yea! Just before the end section, that part when most of the instruments fall away and AP sings 'as we crawl on and on..' is some lovely.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 2 June 2012 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
that's really super, supergirl
― that's really super, supergirl, Saturday, 2 June 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, no. i like everything else abt the song, especially the clattering, driving verses w/ that awesome guitar riff. the comparatively static "soldiers, workers, slaves and farmers" bit works fine as a middle eight, and i love the way the chaos and tension suddenly evaporate at the near-end for "on and on past widows who'll weep" (etc), clearing us some breathing room after all that propulsive percussion, emphasizing the sad futility of the condition described.
that's all GREAT, and i think i understand why partridge wanted to drag that quiet moment out and noise it back up. it makes sense, thematically: there is no respite from the noisy chaos of animal life, not even in sorrowful awareness. when the "on and on and..." part kicks in, however, building to all the crazy panning and those big boom drums, i just want out. there's no tension, no motion, no rhythmic or melodic appeal. it's just an irritating, insistently yearning mess (which may be the point, but i don't enjoy it).
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
catching up
I disagree - the album is supposed to have a very slick, professional sound. But I'm curious to know what your issue is.
I didn't mind it so much, but dudgeon's production is a bit too slick for the material, and partridge wasn't impressed either
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 08:48 (fourteen years ago)
btw antheap is one of my favourite songs off o&l, which is one of my favourite albums off xtc, unpopular paul fox production be damned
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 08:56 (fourteen years ago)
I just really wish "Here Comes President Kill Again" was booted, what a miserable excuse for a song, and it's not as though Partridge didn't literally have three dozen better tunes in his archives
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:44 (fourteen years ago)
O&L is one of my least favourite XTC album (just behind Wasp Star), but I have a lot of time for Mayor Of Simpleton, Poor Skeleton Steps Out, The Loving, Here Comes President Kill Again, Merely A Man and Chalkhills And Children. Otherwise I don't think it holds a candle to the two albums either side of it
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
Garden of Earthly delights stands among their best songs.
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
Also, the line "this is your life and you do what you want to do / just don't hurt nobody / unless of course they ask you" is about the best line ever written.
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
...and you can hear his sardonic smile as he delivers it!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
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As good as the entirety of 'No Language In Our Lungs' (especially the middle section)!?
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
hm. that track doesn't strike me as particularly inspired, actually
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
I would have made this instrumentalbut the words got in the way
love this line from "no language", but it's not a lyrical standout, overall
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and the song "Tissue Tigers" from the album Rag & Bone Buffet-- what an amazing track. I have no idea what the time signature is; it's almost presaging math-rock, but it's really poppy and eccentric. It's brilliant, frankly. Who throws a song like that away? That's better than 95% of bands best songs.
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
oh, it's in 4/4, but it sounds like it's in 17/6 or some shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ut5xh6ZGfA
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
People will always be tempted to wipe their feeeeeeeetOn anything welcome written on iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit - a timbalambla timbalamba toodamatoodama
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
No one's mentioned "Life Begins at the Hop"? It didn't come up on a find-search. I don't really have any feeling for this group, and just own the matched compilations, but "Life Begins at the Hop" is undoubtedly one of my ten favourite new wave songs. "Senses Working Overtime" is good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yiknQ9xyJk
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yep "Life Begins" is the beginning of many XTC tunes that seemed to be absolutely pitch-perfect. That "tell me, what do you say" chorus is really something.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
A bunch of my all-time favorite XTC songs come from the beginning of their career*, and I'm always surprised by the indifference of many fans to their first couple albums and associated singles. They changed a hell of a lot over the course of their career, but they were on fire right out of the gate.
* "Are You Receiving Me?", "Mekkanik Dancing", "Science Friction", "This Is Pop?", "Neon Shuffle" (most of White Music, really)
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
love their early singles, I just think the albums themselves are uneven
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
Waxworks blew my mind when I first heard it.
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
go2 is iffy, but i like white music almost all the way through. few of their albums strike me as perfect from front to back, tbh, but i've always been more interested in songs than albums.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, i knew a bunch of those songs beforehand, but waxworks is an amazing collection of tunes. beeswax too!
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
White Music is a great album. Very jerky New-Wavey but also it seems to parody that genre at the same time. It's almost Zappa-esque in the way it's very self-consciously stupid but also brilliant.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
otm
stick to music threads ;)
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
"Life Begins At The Hop" is so sweet; I especially like that it's an upbeat pop song about a church dance social. c-c-c-cola on tap
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:45 (fourteen years ago)
I've got something like 75 officially released non-lp tracks and it's almost all great. Best b-side band ever? Got my vote!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah most of the CDs I have are the ones with B-sides as binus tracks they shoved right in the middle of the normal tracklist but tbh it took me years to figure that out because they never sounded like a drop in quality or out of place. Can't imagine Black Sea w/out No Language In Our Lungs in the middle.
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
you're australian now?
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 03:50 (fourteen years ago)
???
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 03:50 (fourteen years ago)
binus
jk
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 04:11 (fourteen years ago)
Can't imagine Black Sea w/out No Language In Our Lungs in the middle.
this is utterly otm, so much so that I thought it was part of the normal track list until this post
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:43 (fourteen years ago)
thought forgot
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:44 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pretty sure "Language" was part of the original track listing, unless it was some US-only dealie. The only copy of Black Sea I had was an 80s Geffen cassette (minimal artwork/info, no bonus tracks), and "Language is on it.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:16 (fourteen years ago)
ha I see I am wrong! nevermind.
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah mine has "No Language" but the bonus tracks are "Smokeless Zone", "Don't Lose Your Temper", and "Somnabulist"
I think "Best B-side band ever" is actually OTM when you consider all the Fuzzy Warbles stuff; a 30-track "best of" of that stuff would be fantastic. Trouble is they're a great A-side band too :)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
This floored me when I saw it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8htYS8mf8iY
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
ah yeah, 'no language' is on the original pressing, not sure what I was thinking tbh
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:10 (fourteen years ago)