Modern Rock #1 Hits of 2000

3 Doors Down now does music for Army commercials they play before movie previews.

I thought that was Kid Rock?

no it was Godsmack

It's weird to hear a lot of these 99/00 songs in (semi-)high fidelity on Spotify. I never owned the CDs so it was either over the radio or 128 kbps horrible Napster mp3s. The pop punk stuff sounds a lot better.

"All the Small Things" in particular is improved when the guitars don't sound like digital swooshing.

filter's "take a picture" is a great song, i stan for that too

BTW, to what extent do we think "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)" is intended to be treated as a tribute to "Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John, and how much is it just stealing a good line and doing something completely different with it and hoping nobody notices?

they were stealing a terrible title that's for sure

the only other Fuel song I remember seemed to lift its lyrics directly from Collective Soul's "Heavy"

always forget that "change" was sort of a hit which is weird because i feel like it basically doesn't have a chorus (and that's why it rules)

or maybe less "doesn't have a chorus" and more that the structure of it is kind of fundamentally weird

also the first two apc albums have aged better than all of the tool material

big surprise i know

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I mean in hindsight, really turns out that the post-Nirvana Alternative Boom and its rapid decline through Pop Punk/Post-Grunge/NuMetal was much more unlistenable and embarrassing than 80s Pop Metal ever was, and Pop Metal - especially at its most mainstream - produced much more likeable hits than Post-Nu-Grunge-terna-pop did

"Every Rose Has Its Thorn" is really bad tho

Leppard/GnR/Crue/Jovi/etc vs Blink/Matchbox/Staind/PapaR/Creed/Bizkit

like, not a huge fan of the former but imo it's not even a contest

(going more by pre/post-Nirvana rock radio formats/eras than pure genre distinctions)

Yeah, although to be fair the first list would need to have more Ratt and Great White. I mean, at its best, alt-rock was a really wild forest of a radio format, and there were a lot of great, weird-around-the-edges records that I got exposed to that I never would have otherwise. Even in the worst years for the #1s there was a lot of fun stuff making up the radio landscape - - but I'm sure I've given this exact spiel in like eight threads now....

Speaking now about 2000 only, when I'd agree that the shine was pretty much off the whole project, there's still some decent fun radio rock type stuff in circulation. Just remembered American Hi-Fi "Flavor of the Weak" (#5 on Modern Rock) - that's a good one! And, jeez, "Teenage Dirtbag"!

well, ratt had Way Cool Jr. and that one that strippers always dance to.

These are straw-strippers, btw. Haven't been to a titty bar in like, 10 years.

Additional "decent" to "good" rock radio songs in 2000:

Foo Fighters - Breakout
The Dandy Warhols -Bohemian Like You
311 - Flowing (lol i know but this was their catchy fun one!)
Pushmonkey - Handslide
RATM - Testify & Sleep Now In The Fire (album came out 99)
Pearl Jam - Nothing As It Seems
Smashing Pumpkins - Everlasting Gaze (actually this was pretty irritating but I stuck by it)
VAST - Free

...okay, so none of those are exactly standout classics. But there was slightly more to tune in for than Papa Roach.

"Nothing As It Seems" was not decent

yeah that single killed my interest in PJ for the next six years

That album killed my interest in PJ more or less permanently, but I was lured in by that single! Somewhere I have a wordy defense written in 2001 or 2002, I should try and find that...

there are awesome songs on that record.

"insignificance" iirc

brad otm, there are good songs on Binaural, just not the singles

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I dunno, I think there's a reasonable case that they saved us for a three or four year span!

hm, I think anything good around that time had already existed for a while (late 80s/early 90s alt/indie/college rock could be great), but any bands that actually owed their existence or sound to Grunge, or to the great 90s punk crossover, were pretty much universally awful. and the more quality acts on the margins that maybe enjoyed a hit were more likely coming from some other indie scene and likely would have had a small following anyways. just trying to think of anything good Nirvana or PJ did for music. their sonic influence was among some of the worst ever

the Nirvana meme is wrong because there was plenty of great pop and R&B and hip-hop on the charts, none of which had fuck-all to do with hair metal.

so what exactly did they save us from?

Jesus Jones

yeah, hip hop, R&B, rave, etc were the real stories of the 90s imo

god guys do we have to talk about the validity of the nirvana narrative even on a thread about the year 2000?

well of course: we thought in 2000 that our computers would explode and leave us with our old Firehouse tapes.

xp well I see these lists and I guess I blame the paradigm/format that unleashed all this stuff on us on the Nirvana narrative

Way tempted to do a Change vs. Judith poll

Judging by these polls, I think the Modern Rock #1 shit parade started in '97

LimbsKing, may I suggest a short breather after the 2000 poll, maybe punctuated by something like a "worst Modern Rock #1 to get 0 votes in any of these polls" type poll?

I don't know if ILX Blink 182 love is funny or endearing in a "he ain't heavy, he's my brother" sort of way

Same goes with Green Day. They had some good songs on Dookie and a couple from another early album but that's about it

I actually really like the parent album for the Green Day single here, but that's one of the weaker songs on it. Fuel wins this one, then, by default.

The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You

still love this song. every time i hear it (which is basically like never) i am made happy.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

DESTROY THEM ALL.

I actually really like the parent album for the Green Day single here, but that's one of the weaker songs on it. Fuel wins this one, then, by default.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:42 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

100% otm

It felt a little sad to vote for Fuel.

Wow Otherside is so much better than that overwrought Shimmer rewrite

(hey everybody I just got out of work and here's some opinions 4 u!!!)

I listened to "Otherside" in the past week because of this poll and I can't even remember how it goes.

(I'm not really expressing great passion about "Hemorrhage", to be clear.)

how long how long must I slide

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i do believe it's haaaaaair
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