Modern Rock #1 Hits of 2000

to be fair casino just DID admit that his idea of a perfect circle as a crappy ballad band was wrong

man i'm gonna get real sad when everyone hates on the 2001 poll. i think that year was definitely the pinnacle/nadir of the era, and it was the year i listened to HFS for hours and hours every day.

Billie Joe Armstrong commented that this was the point in which their song writing became slightly more politically based. The lyrics "I pledge allegiance to the under world, one nation under dog..." were taken from the American Pledge of Allegiance but "twisted upside down a bit."

dreadful.

"3 Libras" is a great song... just thought I'd throw that out there, too. "Judith" has aged well after being played to death at the time.

did I say upthread that the first two APC albums are fucking great? because if so I will still say it again and again

Looking at the lists on here, I feel like in 2000 I somehow zoned out, was possibly in a coma for the year?

What's weird is how well I recognize so many of these despite how much I tuned out of pop culture in this time (actually more in 98-99). Clearly I was less tuned out than I thought. 2001 was when I was smoking enough pot that it seemed like a great idea to try to fully embrace this stuff.

it's like the soundtrack of chicken tenders that have been sitting out too long

Kudos to Doc Casino for this, should be thread subtitle for the next few if not all of these polls

Ha, "Never Let You Go" only went #1 in Canada! Had no idea!

(And yeah, that Hot 100 thing makes sense: I was wondering about the absence of Creed and Matchbox 20.)

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Change Deftones

Doctor Casino should listen to this, too

i have decided that there is no reason i cant just vote for blink 182 again given the rest of this list

merican idiot is gr8

wtf

"wake me up when september ends" is one of the worst songs of all time

^^^^^^^^^

i refer once again to the "quality of green day songs directly linked to bpm" rule

actually, I just listened to that blink song, and while I don't really care about it, I can't deny that if it had come out the year DOOKIE came out I'd probably remember it with similar fondness.

yeah but American Idiot has McCartney-esque melodies, guys

xp, the rule is ironclad & hilariously otm

Still like "Change".

I was an announcer at a modern rock station on the weekends during this time and remember all of these songs not very fondly at all. It's what made me go, you know? fuckit for the next dozen years and just listen to 80s punk bands all the time.

― pplains, Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

i was 15 at the time and came to the same conclusion

im googling band photos of 3 doors down now and its very rewarding

3 Doors Down now does music for Army commercials they play before movie previews.

I thought that was Kid Rock?

no it was Godsmack

It's weird to hear a lot of these 99/00 songs in (semi-)high fidelity on Spotify. I never owned the CDs so it was either over the radio or 128 kbps horrible Napster mp3s. The pop punk stuff sounds a lot better.

"All the Small Things" in particular is improved when the guitars don't sound like digital swooshing.

filter's "take a picture" is a great song, i stan for that too

BTW, to what extent do we think "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)" is intended to be treated as a tribute to "Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John, and how much is it just stealing a good line and doing something completely different with it and hoping nobody notices?

they were stealing a terrible title that's for sure

the only other Fuel song I remember seemed to lift its lyrics directly from Collective Soul's "Heavy"

always forget that "change" was sort of a hit which is weird because i feel like it basically doesn't have a chorus (and that's why it rules)

or maybe less "doesn't have a chorus" and more that the structure of it is kind of fundamentally weird

also the first two apc albums have aged better than all of the tool material

big surprise i know

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I mean in hindsight, really turns out that the post-Nirvana Alternative Boom and its rapid decline through Pop Punk/Post-Grunge/NuMetal was much more unlistenable and embarrassing than 80s Pop Metal ever was, and Pop Metal - especially at its most mainstream - produced much more likeable hits than Post-Nu-Grunge-terna-pop did

"Every Rose Has Its Thorn" is really bad tho

Leppard/GnR/Crue/Jovi/etc vs Blink/Matchbox/Staind/PapaR/Creed/Bizkit

like, not a huge fan of the former but imo it's not even a contest

(going more by pre/post-Nirvana rock radio formats/eras than pure genre distinctions)

Yeah, although to be fair the first list would need to have more Ratt and Great White. I mean, at its best, alt-rock was a really wild forest of a radio format, and there were a lot of great, weird-around-the-edges records that I got exposed to that I never would have otherwise. Even in the worst years for the #1s there was a lot of fun stuff making up the radio landscape - - but I'm sure I've given this exact spiel in like eight threads now....

Speaking now about 2000 only, when I'd agree that the shine was pretty much off the whole project, there's still some decent fun radio rock type stuff in circulation. Just remembered American Hi-Fi "Flavor of the Weak" (#5 on Modern Rock) - that's a good one! And, jeez, "Teenage Dirtbag"!

well, ratt had Way Cool Jr. and that one that strippers always dance to.

These are straw-strippers, btw. Haven't been to a titty bar in like, 10 years.

Additional "decent" to "good" rock radio songs in 2000:

Foo Fighters - Breakout
The Dandy Warhols -Bohemian Like You
311 - Flowing (lol i know but this was their catchy fun one!)
Pushmonkey - Handslide
RATM - Testify & Sleep Now In The Fire (album came out 99)
Pearl Jam - Nothing As It Seems
Smashing Pumpkins - Everlasting Gaze (actually this was pretty irritating but I stuck by it)
VAST - Free

...okay, so none of those are exactly standout classics. But there was slightly more to tune in for than Papa Roach.

"Nothing As It Seems" was not decent

yeah that single killed my interest in PJ for the next six years

That album killed my interest in PJ more or less permanently, but I was lured in by that single! Somewhere I have a wordy defense written in 2001 or 2002, I should try and find that...

there are awesome songs on that record.

"insignificance" iirc

brad otm, there are good songs on Binaural, just not the singles

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I dunno, I think there's a reasonable case that they saved us for a three or four year span!

hm, I think anything good around that time had already existed for a while (late 80s/early 90s alt/indie/college rock could be great), but any bands that actually owed their existence or sound to Grunge, or to the great 90s punk crossover, were pretty much universally awful. and the more quality acts on the margins that maybe enjoyed a hit were more likely coming from some other indie scene and likely would have had a small following anyways. just trying to think of anything good Nirvana or PJ did for music. their sonic influence was among some of the worst ever

the Nirvana meme is wrong because there was plenty of great pop and R&B and hip-hop on the charts, none of which had fuck-all to do with hair metal.

so what exactly did they save us from?

Jesus Jones