Is THE LODGER David Bowie's best record?

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Another one of those where their fans "know best"...

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the video, Alfred.

poxen, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

what the hell does "habitue of prematurely abandoned modernist space" mean?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

is that another way of saying his ideas are half-finished?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

it means he has a taste for cool furniture and interior design

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

lol, but really: he's saying that the guy has made a career of collaborating with last year's breakout art-star

poxen, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station will always be Bowie's best album for me, but Lodger is definitely in my Top 3 favourites of his.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODvjYoVEi8

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

'Look Back In Anger' just popped up on shuffle-play... man, this song never gets old. Fabulous drumming, too!

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

Another formal Eno co-write, too.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

Red Sails to Repetition = one of the great album stretches of the 70s

livid in America (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link

It's definitely a great stretch of tracks, but I kinda feel that way about the whole album... even 'Red Money'! Definitely fair to say that this is one of my favourite Bowie LP's alongside Station To Station and Low.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

never heard this one before this week, i'm astounded at what an amazing record could have been just sitting there in the world all this time when i could have loved it any number of years ago—like, any bowie discontent of my own aside, i would have been primed for it.

on another thread someone posted owen p saying bowie was a grating, irritating singer, which i definitely feel has merit for a lot of his records, not always but certainly in consistent parts of his technique that one just has to accept as part of his thing. so one thing i noticed right away about this record is that he's still doing *most* everything that he usually does as a vocalist, but in the context of the record the grating and irritating aspects seem to have been smoothed down or eliminated. which given that he often sounds like he's singing on an eno record or sometimes is straight up imitating david byrne, is itself interesting. maybe like he leaned slightly toward these models which were not all that far apart from his usual singing in the first place, but which grounded it somehow.

there are even parts where he just sounds like he's actually singing all out, mannerisms dropped.

j., Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:37 (eight years ago) link

this album is just called "lodger" not "the lodger"

akm, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 05:20 (eight years ago) link

The other's a Hitchock silent starring a famous Welsh actor, no?

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 06:23 (eight years ago) link

You are welcome here, artcle police

spiritual hat gaz (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah this record is awesome -- going through a complete discography play this week, and so far, it's pretty easily my favorite

Dominique, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:48 (eight years ago) link

"Look Back in Anger" may be his most rocking track, maybe my favorite deep cut. This album also has "Fantastic Voyage" and "Move On," two other favorite deep cuts. And then "DJ" and "Boys" are both awesome cuts, too, obviously. Lots of great stuff. I'd say the anarchy of this album is really appealing, but "Scary Monsters" is a tad sharper for all its superficial similarities.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

Also "Yassassin' and 'African Night Flight'.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link

I like the first song a lot, though the MO of the latter seems way more Eno than Bowie (nothing wrong with that). Mentioned above, but Eno gets co-write credit on most of this disc,

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link

Always wanted to start a thread about songs like 'African Night Flight' and Joni Mitchell's 'The Jungle Line' in which big rock artists go 'exotic'.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link

Brian Eno – synthesizers, ambient drone, prepared piano, cricket menace, guitar treatments, horse trumpet, eroica horn, piano, backing vocals

"African Night Flight" is the one featuring "cricket menace."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

"Red Sails", you guys.

Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link

... it's "Monza" by Harmonia with Bowie on vocals, Adrian Belew on guitar. That'll do for me.

Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link

i really love this record and it is definitely my favourite when I am listening to it and shouting about THE HINTERLAND and THUNDER OCEAN.

woof, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link

FAFAFAFAFAFAFA

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

my favorite Bowie album

octave jump on "Move On" -- "somewhere someone's calling me / when the chips are downnnnnnnnn" = LOVE

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link

this is my favorite of the 'berlin trilogy'

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

AYA
OOH
AYA
OOH

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

Cyprus is my island

Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

in fan voyage love how he takes that trailing interrogative in "we'll never say anything nice again, will we?" - it should just hang loose at the end there, an afterthought - but he just fucking hits it & pushes it
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

woof, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

yes

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link

I've been playing all my Bowie songs on random this week and Move On practically lept from the speakers. That is a titanic song.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

"All the Young Dudes" backwards!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

Is that what the weird background vocals are? Another "how did he do that" riddle solved. Now if I can only figure out what musical instrument is producing that crazy sound during the verses of TVC15.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgNomvJpMs

pplains, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

Well, I'll be damned.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link

Now if I can only figure out what musical instrument is producing that crazy sound during the verses of TVC15.

I assumed those were falsetto vocals, but now that I listen more closely, who the fuck knows. Sounds like something on a loop, almost.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

sounds like fuzzy guitar to me, if we're listening to the same part.

belew is so great on lodger. one thing i love about the mix is how his solos sound like they were beamed in from a studio on another planet and just left as is.

home organ, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

This album rules. "Fantastic Voyage" may be one of my favorite all-time tunes. "Never say anything nice again will we?" definitely an incredible moment. The lyrics in this song are amazing. "We're learning to live with somebody's depression".

"Move On" is really nice. Sails....moving on.... voyages... there is a lot of travelling on this album. Maybe the Krautrock/motorik influence?

I like the queasy feeling on "Repetition". "Red Money" is a nice way to close out but I may have had it ruined by hearing Iggy's superior "Sister Midnight" first.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Space Oddity - hunky dory - ziggy stardust is my favorite run. Love those three albums. Actually not completely sold on the berlin trilogy.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

think of it as dream pop

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L58KyHC_M

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

I'll probably be the odd man out on this thread, but I've never understood the sequencing on this album. Opening with Look Back in Anger, Boys and DJ would have made more sense to me.

Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

it's a fantastic voyage!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

the wrong words make you listen

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

ha yeah it works conceptually I suppose. I'm just not crazy about side one of this album.

Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

the side with "African Nighe Flight," "Move On," "Yassassin," and "Red Sails"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

that's the one! I don't know. Maybe I need to give it another listen...

Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

You're the odd man out.

Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link


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