eels all the way
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
"1979" is nice but i've never quite understood the fuss over it, it's like my 10th favorite Pumpkins hit (and 3rd or 4th favorite Mellon Collie single, depending on whether "Muzzle" counts)
― some dude, Saturday, May 26
It probably has something to do with your personal preference for more upbeat stuff. Some people are more likely to find themselves involved with slow jams or mellow trippy stuff or nostalgia inducing shit or subtle yet emotionally-charged music delivered by a familiar, melancholic voice...
The simple 'different strokes for different folks' philosophy makes the publication of self-ingratiating top 100 lists read as attempts at seeking approval from others, or even worse, vainglory for the sake of boasting one's "well-bred" taste to others. But of course it can't all be about that. Finding people that share your musical interests can be rewarding. For instance, when you get a bunch of like-minded people together to poll their favorite songs, your choices get to shine among choices from people preinclined to agree with you (to some extent). And with all that support comes inspiration to listen and criticize more songs to the point where making top # lists could become an enjoyable hobby.
Having found a fraternity that will fuel your common desire to quantify musical subjectivity, you may focus towards the music that predominates your forum. You might also start borrowing opinions from the group mentality; so much so and your musical subjectivity will get hijacked. Some groups are big enough to form a society in which their music taste gets shoved down other people's throats - often in a self-aggrandizing fashion not unlike Pitchfork.
As far as ILX goes, if there are any music here they seem to be doing a good job at keeping their subjectively to appropriate threads. Although, broad-set polls can reveal approval-seeking music lovers and vainglorious critics alike, the latter more likely to engross themselves in some form of group snobbery.
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
oops
"As far as ILX goes, if there are any music *frats* here..."
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
"...the latter *are* more likely..."
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
The simple 'different strokes for different folks' philosophy makes the publication of self-ingratiating top 100 lists read as attempts at seeking approval from others, or even worse, vainglory for the sake of boasting one's "well-bred" taste to others.
i doubt some dude is riding for Goldfinger singles to seek approval from others
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
psychology never reveals something 100% one way or another
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
captainderizer
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://images.hhv.de/catalog/detail_big/00093/93414_1.jpg
I know someone who used to wear this on occasion and if you look really quickly it looks like it says dishwalla.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost I'd like to hear more about this..."psychology" you speak of. Sounds fascinating, and well within the bounds of this particular discussion.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, this whole time I thought I was writing top 100 lists out of boredom.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
really cracking up picturing a hardcore dj shadow fan getting super indignant that people think he's into dishwalla
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
xpif it was boring you wouldn't do it all the time
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
nono I do it to kill boredom. Or at least thats what I thought until today.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
you do things 'out of boredom' to entertain yourself or occupy your time, not to be more bored, you pompous dingbat
xpost
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
making top 100 lists is hardly in the same vein as crossword puzzles and suduko
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
plus, people don't go around posting their solved suduko puzzles
it would be if people posted their completed sudokos to the internet all proud
(lol)
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
why not.. i think it's fun. sudoko is fun too. both are good ways to kill time at lame office jobs.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
theres no law that says you have to publicly display a top 100 list.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
i don't post my stupid lists to ilx much because yeah i hate to come off all 'look at me!' but since i had just done one relevant to this thread the other day, and people were doing similar 'other good songs from this year that didn't hit #1' lists on the other threads in this serious, i said what the hell, why not risk the scorn of the world's dumbest armchair psychologist.
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
serious=series
1. wonderwall2. 19793. champagne supernover
disappointed i couldn't vote green day in this one
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
no shots at anyone, obv, but there is something getting a little unnervering about the onion-style I CONSUME SO MUCH POP CULTURE OM NOM NOM going around ILX and elsewhere. That site iCheckMovies is a little weird when I get updates about how many movies my friends torrented that night.
I know this is mad lol coming from the guy who reviews 1000 records in one year, but we're getting into a weird media-hoarding era where there's like imaginary bonus points awarded to the people who have watched/heard/seen the most media; and its more about what you've consumed than if you have actual thoughts about it... I think GRANTLAND MAD MEN POWER RANKINGS are like another indicator of something similar, where its like, you cant just enjoy and think about a TV show anymore, you have to get super granular about everything or youre doing it rong.
i dunno, even as a serial listmaker myself, its all starting to give me anxiety
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
I know this is mad lol coming from the guy who reviews 1000 records in one year
it is, yes.
― some dude, Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
prolly put dishwalla fourth and, uh, alanis fifth? this one is kinda garbage
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
eels, dude, what the fuck is wrong w u.
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
i don't like that song
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
there is something getting a little unnervering about the onion-style I CONSUME SO MUCH POP CULTURE OM NOM NOM going around ILX
Dude, have you been looking at some other ILX all these years?
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
I'm disappointing that you think my armchair psychology comes from a place of scorn, somedudeI thought we could discuss this like adults
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
94 & 95 kick 96's ass imo
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
I know this is mad lol coming from the guy who reviews 1000 records in one year, but we're getting into a weird media-hoarding era where there's like imaginary bonus points awarded to the people who have watched/heard/seen the most media; and its more about what you've consumed than if you have actual thoughts about it
But this is a little strawman-y wrt ILX.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
i like the 2nd Eels album alright, but "Novacane For The Soul" is just kinda cheesy imo and croup pretty much ruined the band for me after pointing out how much the singer sounds like Collective Soul and/or the "How Do You Talk To An Angel" guy
― some dude, Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
I ain't got no problem with yer lists, some dude, fwiw. I'm all about, "Hey, we're discussing (narrowly specific topic), but here's (possibly-forgotten examples of things that lie just outside the bounds of this narrowly specific topic)." That tendency sure as hell has a lot more relevance to a thread than, for example, psychoanalyzing people who engage in same.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
no lorax is right, i was just waiting for the flimsiest pretense to whip out my list and show everyone how big it is
― some dude, Sunday, 27 May 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
I would hardly equate music elitism to a pissing contest. You would rarely ever find a nerd or hipster engaging in something so plebian.
I did gloss over another reason why someone would write and publish top 100 lists - being OCD and bored - a much less interesting diagnosis to discuss than vane or attention/approval-seeking (something there certainly isn't a lack of in the hipster community).
The result of hipster publications earnestly tooting these lists is always the same though - elitism at its finest.
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 27 May 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
there's no inherent elitism to sharing an opinion
― some dude, Sunday, 27 May 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
CaptainLorax, if you're dizzy or feeling at all nauseated, you may have incurred a head injury of which you are unaware. I would advise that you seek medical attention for what might be a serious concussion before returning to ILX.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
ok this thread got me to listen to 1979 for the first time in years. it's a really beautiful song, i wish i had remembered this earlier
the rest of these have not aged well at all
― ciderpress, Sunday, 27 May 2012 07:21 (twelve years ago) link
why have i not been posting to these threads more. this is my LIFE man.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Sunday, 27 May 2012 08:02 (twelve years ago) link
pepper owns
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 27 May 2012 10:42 (twelve years ago) link
two points 1) i've heard this sentiment in nerddom/critdom since the 90s 2) professional crits are so through the looking glass when it comes to viewing/listening habits that i wish they wouldn't indulge in a lot of you/we talk on the subject, esp when it's the guy who reviews 1000 records in one year
― da croupier, Sunday, 27 May 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
2) professional crits are so through the looking glass when it comes to viewing/listening habits that i wish they wouldn't indulge in a lot of you/we talk on the subject
banner this at the top of every ile/ilm thread
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
going to the grocery store now -- what should be on my list?
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
you don't actually know any nerds or hipsters, do you
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure lorax knows any humans
― --niccimanewhore (some dude), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
a friend and I have been talking for years about a project, it'd have to last five years at least to have any meaning, where you only listen to one album a year. Not just once - daily, maybe, maybe several times a day, maybe only once or twice a week, but just one album. You get to pick, it can be something new that you hold out for the release in March or whatever, or you can go with something you either already like or have been curious about. But one. That is your listening for that year.
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
that sounds like torture to me. i'd rather abstain from music entirely that be stuck with the same thing over and over.
― --niccimanewhore (some dude), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
"The Year Of Living Michael Jackson's Dangerously," now available on Kindle
― da croupier, Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I was gonna say. Torturous. OTOH, I've been doing pretty well with only really listening to a small handful of new albums for the last several years. Between severely diminishing returns and a wealth of old stuff I still haven't properly dug into, I don't feel like I'm missing out at all.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 May 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link