ive said this elsewhere (or here maybe, too, i don't remember) but dre's parts on it sound 100% like kendrick karaoke, which makes sense since kendrick of course wrote the verses.
but idk i find it distracting and kinda embarrassing... not as much as "i need a doctor" but it def has the feel to me of an old baller trying to do a bunch of and 1 tricks or something
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I agree with that; the verse is not Dre's voice (in so much as Dre even has a voice these days). I give it a pass, though, just because his presence is so iconic and it's a key part of the song's Visit L.A. sales pitch
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
Dre's verses have always been karaoke
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
u sound young
he used to be better at hiding it
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
thats silly. ppl used to criticize his rapping all the time & they were wrong then too
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:06 (fourteen years ago)
xpost I dunno, 2001 was pretty much all Dre karaoke and it was awesome in part because of that (this was the beginning of his "so what if I use ghostwriter? no shame in it phase.") I think the problem is he's never had a ghostwriter with a voice as distinct as Kendrick's
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, he used to seem less slavish in his imitation of his writers. i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
eminem?
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
xp i don't buy that. jay-z, eminem, snoop, cube, doc?
yeah, eminem/snoop/cube were all strong voices too, obviously, but their personas heavily overlapped with Dre's in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. They all have their quirks, but there are a lot of interchangeable verses among the four of them. Kendrick is a real outlier
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.
yeah, this is kind of true, but I give him a pass since I like the verse well enough anyway
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
i dont think kendrick is an outlier, its just a new voice'forgot about dre' is super obviously a bunch of em verses in like every way, we just give it a pass cuz we heard it a bunch & its a dope song
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i don't know how you could consider kendrick's flow more distinctive than now "eminem" dre's verse in forgot about dre was
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:30 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, maybe it's just that i didn't realize he didn't write his own raps at the time, but dre sounds way more "himself" on the chronic and 2001 to me.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
totally agree; the ghost verses on "Forgot About Dre" were all angry and defensive, so they played on the popular image of Dre in a way that was believable enough
― Evan R, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
it must have been hard for eminem to channel than angry and defensive vibe dre wanted
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
for me it's less about the content than the rhythms
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
otm
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
some spin on the ball here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwamhuY6Yy8
― Reg, Monday, 13 August 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)
i like this guy's stuff.
― sorry for asshole (dog latin), Monday, 13 August 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)
This guy is the new Nas
Take that as you will
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6krHJGimets
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:44 (thirteen years ago)
i really like him. take that as you will.
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)
Doing a track with Lady Gaga apparently
― Number None, Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:10 (thirteen years ago)
i'm actually looking fwd to that quite a lot, doesn't seem like a natural fit
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)
i like him too. i also like nas
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:26 (thirteen years ago)
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:34 PM Bookmark
This could mean practically anything.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)
ie maybe he is literally writing the songs on the new nas record
― very sexual album (schlump), Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)
i dont see how that could mean practically anything; he holds a very specific place in hip hop
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)
so specific, in fact, that calling anyone else "the new Nas" is utterly meaningless
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)
well, you can take it as you will.. you must guess at D-40's own appraisal. and if you guess wrong, BAM in the dunk tank you go
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)
lol seriously
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
i dont really see what's so hard to understand about that parallel
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
who's putting anyone in the dunk tank?
i mean, it seems evident to me Kendrick is a really talented rapper who's talent is so uncontroversial that he becomes a stand-in for 'quality rap' -- focus on skill above all, dry rap style, this kind of focus on purity of rap as a technical skill
you guys really cant figure that shit out on your own?
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
track in the OP = the new biddybiddybop
― bert yansh (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)
Section 80 was a lot weirder than that description suggests. Not too mention stuff like Cartoon & Cereal
― Number None, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsKXc3Cixg
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
haha Nas is about 2 billion times weirder than kendrick
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
"Not too mention" christ
― Number None, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)
matt otm
i assumed deej's post was a comedy copy&paste due to the capital letters. guess not :/
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
kendrick and his pals are kinda the kinder gentler odd future in a way. your mom would like kendrick! but he's got the goods! and he is totally interesting to listen to. you want to hear what he has to say. and in that way he is nas-like definitely.
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
it's to the point now where it makes it hard for me to listen to nas...am i'm one of the boring ones that thinks illmatic will always be the greatest hip hop LP ever....but yeah he's got such a heavy vibe of just being fucking nuts now, he weirds me out....and it's not in this like Lil' B/Kool Keith way where their persona is being kooky (B) or insane (KK) but there are always like 25 throwaway o_O lines on any Nas album (if not more) where you're like what the fuck are you on dude?
like some dude pointed out on twitter the weird "b3stiality p0rn" reference that comes out of nowhere on the new album
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
haha you're overstating it a little but that creeping strangeness and oversharing is part of what imo makes post-Illmatic Nas continue to be worth listening to
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
yeah maybe!
i like the new one pretty much
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
omg google upper mississippi sh@kedown and find bestiality porn
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
Lol
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)
i attribute those weird nas throwaway lines less to weirdness per se and more to a certain tone-deafness about how to say things, which is obviously an odd thing to say about a rapper, but i finished his latest album feeling vaguely sorry for him
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, that's otm about Nas' tonedeafness.
My point earlier is there are so many different points of Nas' history and facets of his character that have come and gone that "the new Nas" without any other explication is pretty much a Rorschach Test.
― Vagelis (The Reverend), Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
i don't know if there's an elegant way to say women love it when you fart in your face because you are psychic
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
Why do the VMAs even exist? MTV hasn't played a video since before a lot artists on the charts were born.
― Wounded Insulter (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 September 2025 13:48 (nine months ago)
It's like having a Blockbuster Video movie award
― Wounded Insulter (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 September 2025 13:50 (nine months ago)
The VMAs do seem about as relevant as having a yearly Charleston competition at this point
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Tuesday, 9 September 2025 15:04 (nine months ago)
thought it was funny that they moved the MTV VMAs to CBS this year. The people who remember the era of relevant VMAs are now the NCIS: Toledo demographic.
― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 06:45 (nine months ago)
The saddest of trombones:
https://bsky.app/profile/uebey.bsky.social/post/3m2rx5dakls2k
Drake loses his defamation case against Kendrick Lamar over the “Not Like Us” lyrics.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreieg2rztpjkppamw6773kxy6giavpi4re4ofupd6lzpwrrrtkxbrna@jpeg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:31 (eight months ago)
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreif6v6pv6ngbth6jy22uld37nhvccdjaqmt3bfm4bm4dqkg5kxc6nm@jpeg
Full link to the decision if you'd like to enjoy more of this:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635046/gov.uscourts.nysd.635046.96.0.pdf
(And strictly speaking Drake was suing UMG, not Kendrick. Even so.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:43 (eight months ago)
I'm imagining that opinion read in the voice of Richard Griffiths.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:45 (eight months ago)
another L for drakes trophy case
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 October 2025 21:48 (eight months ago)
ah very interesting
The bot-farming aspect of the lawsuit doubles as an attack on Stake’s “tipping” function, which allows users to transfer funds between accounts—a common feature of online casinos. The lawsuit claims that Drake, Ross, and Nguyen used the feature to covertly transfer gambling proceeds. That “wholly unregulated money transmitter,” the lawsuit adds, financed Nguyen’s further promotion of Stake, as well as a campaign to artificially boost Drake streams and “fabricate popularity; disparage competitors and music label executives; and distort recommendation algorithms.” This scheme, the lawsuit alleges, is carried out on platforms such as Spotify and “has suppressed authentic artists and narrowed consumers’ access to legitimate content.”
https://pitchfork.com/news/drake-accused-of-rico-gambling-and-stream-boosting-scheme-in-new-lawsuit/
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:14 (six months ago)
You know the wild thing is that the judge in Drake‘s unsuccessful lawsuit is one of my college classmates
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:42 (six months ago)
good on them telling drake to just take the L already man
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:44 (six months ago)
I’m imagining a Drake song titled “I’m in Court” set to the cadence of “I’m Upset”
― Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 January 2026 19:29 (six months ago)
I had to read that a couple times to sorta understand it. So Nguyen was some random Australian dude promoting Stake for some reason, in addition to the bot farming? And this whole thing was financed by gambling proceeds? What was their edge on that?
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Friday, 2 January 2026 21:20 (six months ago)
i think gambling proceeds is prob inaccurate here its just money thats in the stake casino app thats easy to send between accounts without anyone telling the government, nguyen is a shady internet marketing guy that aiden ross and drake are paying to do shady internet marketing schemes including pump drakes stream numbers with bots
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 January 2026 21:28 (six months ago)
wonder if the promoting stake part is nguyen using bots to get drake and ross fraudulent affiliate fees
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 January 2026 21:30 (six months ago)
anyway this is just a civil case but all these things are crimes drake and famous streamer aiden ross could get in real trouble
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 January 2026 21:31 (six months ago)
is being too dumb to understand what a crime is a defense? from what i’ve seen of aiden ross… hmm
― mh, Saturday, 3 January 2026 17:42 (six months ago)
lmao u ever seen this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNIYvOpTsh8
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 January 2026 18:22 (six months ago)