Neil Young: Waging Heavy Peace

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haaaa. he also talks about some old cars and his new alternative to the mp3.

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:52 (fourteen years ago)

That excerpt totally reminds me of Ellington's writings on food/restaurants in Music Is My Mistress.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

So basically this book is going to be like the end of Keith Richards, when he's just rambling? "So this one time I hung out with Paul McCartney in Jamaica ... did I ever tell you my bangers and mash recipe ... "

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

hey this is out today!

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Would love a review of this from folks here (especially those who have read "Shakey" too). Have a feeling it will end up as a birthday or Christmas present if I don't intervene, and if its really boring I would just ask for my own copy of "Shakey" instead. So yeah, get on it people.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

You need Shakey regardless; it's really essential! I'll probably end up getting this for Christmas; in no hurry to pick it up tbh.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

yeah shakey is definitely one of the better rock bios out there -- even with all its flaws, it's by far the ultimate neil book. i'm going to get waging heavy peace sooner or later.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

I already read Shakey btw, just a borrowed copy. Loved it, flaws and all of course.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

if anything looks like waging heavy peace has some cool pictures
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_max07mVAb91qdf09mo1_400.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

also important http://twitter.com/neilyoung

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_max0sgXrZi1qdf09mo1_500.jpg
this one's kinda rad - american star n bars sessions

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Shakey is terrific. Waging Heavy Peace, the little I've seen of it has been pretty disappointing.

On the tour with Sonic Youth: "We were a great bill; people got a real show. It rocked. How original are they? Very."

Like, really, that's the main takeaway from that tour? I thought people were booing the opening bands and losing their shit. Maybe he gets into that later (I only saw one page, posted on Lee Ranaldo's Instagram, lol).

Anyhow. I dunno. Book doesn't seem promising.

dmr, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

When I saw the Crazy Horse/Sonic Youth/Social D tour, people were into all of it. There were hippie girls twirling and dancing to Sonic Youth, Neil Young biker fans getting down to Social Distortion.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

Nobody booed SY on the show I saw, but the guy next to me said, "You like this shit?". And a couple of kids in front of me left after Social Distortion's set.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

maybe I am exagerrating what I had heard the reactions were, but in any case the prose seems very vanilla

completely not fair to judge based on one silly page screen shot but hey

dmr, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, never had time for Social Distortion, impossible for me to imagine that that was the band anyone, kids or no, was excited to see on that bill. Wonder where those kids are now, and what is on their iPod/turntable/car stereo?

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Social Distortion.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Haha, yeah, their appeal completely escaped me (and still does). It was baffling/hilarious to watch these kids' reactions: "All right! They're playing 'Drug Train'!". And immediately after the set, they bolted, like they wanted to make sure they split before accidentally catching any of
NYCH's set.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Hah Alfred, probably true.

Tarfumes, is that last post implying that Social Distortion went on AFTER Sonic Youth, not before, of just that those kids could not even risk a whiff of the NYCH set. Have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of SY going on first.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

"... or just that those kids"

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know Social Distortion was one of those bands that I would never mind hearing when they came on, but can't imagine ever getting worked up enough to become a "fan".

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, SY definitely went on first. SD had a sort-of hit at the time ("Ball & Chain"), but that was one more sort-of hit than SY had.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

social d = dadpunk rock

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Oof, guess it would've provided a good break to go get some food or beer or whatever before Neil's set. This was post "Kool Thing", right? Not exactly a hit, but it was on MTV quite a bit. Still, I can imagine that Social Distortion was in the wheelhouse of more die-hard Neil fans than SY, probably made plenty of sense all around.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, SY were still touring behind Goo. That was actually my third time seeing them in three months: saw them headline in November '90, open for Public Enemy in December, and then Neil in January. "Kool Thing" was only on 120 Minutes, though, while the SD song was in regular rotation (or at least it seemed like it).

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

In Philly, I want to say that Social D. went on first, but I may be wrong. Maybe they went on first ... in my heart.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I am sure my fandom of SY clouds my memory a bit. I prefer my version of SY dominance!

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

nobody booed social distortion or sonic youth when i saw them as a kid in chicago, at the rosemont horizon. people were expecting loud crazy horse neil, jacked by all the noise

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Hey! That was the show I saw! Cool!

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

I saw the Washington DC area show and most folks there did not seem interested in either SY or Social Distortion.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

social distortion is the worst band

jalapeno kloppers (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

When I saw that tour SD was definitely first, every song sounded exactly the same and no one paid attention to them. SY played a short, weird set, that was marred by bass amp problems, I remember Kim Gordon stalking offstage at least once and featured a lot of Lee & Thurston talking/baiting the crowd.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Ahh, that's more like it

grandavis, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

SY even played the bridge benefit in 91, to apparently disastrous results -- haven't heard a recording, but would be interesting to hear these songs unplugged.
Dirty Boots
Mote
Cinderella's Big Score
(Aborted twice)
Personality Crisis
Note: Bridge Benefit Concert held by Neil Young. The band struggled through every song and after Personality Crisis Kim screamed "FUCK!" and smashed her bass. The band was subsequently booed off stage. Sonic Youth claim that Neil Young's roadies sabotaged their gear due to bad comments the band made about them in interviews from earlier in the year.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

so Neil Young mentions driving down country roads listening to the Pistol Annies album on Rhapsody. He loves it ("Those girls can sing!"). More reason to love him.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

for some reason the opening of this article made me laugh

Aretha Franklin had never sounded so shocking, Flea decided last year, as "Respect" roared from the speakers of Neil Young's Cadillac Eldorado. Stunned by the song's clarity, the Red Hot Chili Peppers' bassist listened alongside bandmate Anthony Kiedis and producer Rick Rubin while Young showcased the power of Pono, his high-resolution music service designed to confront the compressed audio inferiority that MP3s offer.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-expands-pono-digital-to-analog-music-service-20120927#ixzz27i0iDFat

tylerw, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

that was also the song that neil played for the author of the nymag article, to demonstrate the power of his new proprietary sound system that will never take off. something's fishy here.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

that is literally the only song Pono will play.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

If Waging Heavy Peace contains any tidbits about how the name "Pono" was chosen, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

for some reason the opening of this article made me laugh

Me too. It's because Neil, Flea, Keidis, and Rubin have spent decades working at hearing-damaging volumes and, as such, probably aren't authorities on the finer nuances of sound systems.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

but you can feel it maaan

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

there are already places where you can buy 24bit high-res downloads from the major labels:

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=9624albums

not sure if any sell 196khz

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

Archives II will only be available built into the dashboard of an electric car.

Anyone catch the Neil's next book will be about his favorite cars?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

also after i noticed that this nice marantz CD/DVD player i bought on clearance online could play SACDs, i've gotten a couple

SACD rules! it's like the good things about vinyl and the good things about digital!

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

the RS article reminds me of a cool story: my chemistry teacher in high school was kind of audiophile and he set up his system in class one day, telling us our minds were going to be blown by the sound quality. and then he played "here i go again" by whitesnake.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

True audiophiles don't listen to music; they listen to their systems.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

whitesnake, right up there with aja, breakfast in america and famous blue raincoat as a classic reference record

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like there is an analog wrt guitarists who tell you about their awesome rigs and then play "here i go again" by whitesnake

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

usually thru some kind of awesome maxed out digital chorus effect

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

it sounded pretty amazing tbh, like the whole class was going down the only road we'd ever known ... together. and then we went back to talking about the periodic table or something.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

Haha wut?

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:32 (twelve years ago)

Waging Heavy Peace II: The Legend of Shakey's Gold

tylerw, Monday, 2 June 2014 16:49 (twelve years ago)

two chapters about his old classic cars from 1965-1979, 35 chapters about the lincvolt

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:08 (twelve years ago)

When's he going to name a car the Pono Express?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 June 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)

Special Bonus Audio Book-only chapter (in PONO, from a recording made at Jack White's): "Inside Bruce Berry's Van".

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 June 2014 19:33 (twelve years ago)

Neil Young - Pono Express Record (2015)

Master of Treacle, Monday, 2 June 2014 19:47 (twelve years ago)


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