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(i like mom btw)

bob zemko (bob), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i like my mom too bob: she tht the earthquake was a cow jumping thru the window!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sure I haven't listened to Autechre as much as someone who likes them would - why would I? But I have downloaded many of their tracks, including tracks from "Tri Repetae", "Ep7", "Confield", and "Lp5" and I've never particularly enjoyed them. Their songs have a very static feel to me, melodies and harmonic content are weak, and their rhythms do sound stilted. Perhaps that's the point, I dunno. I've never been a big fan of industrial, so maybe this has more of that sort of appeal.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Perhaps the reason that all of the Autechre criticisms sound "rote" and "off the peg" is because their central weaknesses are so glaring that everyone agrees on them - so you always hear the same reasons.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I always forget that anything I say about niun niggung I really only mean about the first half. then all the sounds stay the same but the second half becomes all meandering and sounds more like idm again. which I find kind of disappointing. maybe if it would meander a bit and feel like DRIFT like dots and loops, then come back at the end, I could like it more. but after the song-structure brilliance of the first half I'm set up for something else.

onate, usually when I like to listen to autechre (haven't been listening in a while) the sense of tracks unfolding machinically seems to be what does it for me.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Asking for melodic Autechre is like wishing Clipse's "Grindin" or better yet, El-P, involved more melody. It just isn't the point. As for the rhythm thing, i think there are definitely patterns and structures and syncopation embedded within the "cold" noise, although lots of their stuff (especially on Confield) is more SAW II than anything in need of rhythm.

Honda, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't get me started on El-P...

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

''But I have downloaded many of their tracks, including tracks from "Tri Repetae", "Ep7", "Confield", and "Lp5" and I've never particularly enjoyed them.''

but can yr computer speakers do justice to the sound if you download them. I'm not a fan or anything (nevah got anything by them) but i'm just wondering abt that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

OK maybe you connect yr speakers to the computer by using the powah of technology.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I listen on headphones through the computer. Admittedly, it's only MP3 sound quality, but it's hard for me to imagine that last little bit of CD resolution making much difference in this case.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I vouch for Vulvaland, one of the great album titles, especially considering it's an album by some German knobtwiddlers, as opposed to something with a Pedro Bell cover or some gaggle of skinny-bearded nu metal idiots. "Frosch" is one of THE slow-dawning pop pleasures of the last decade or so, at least in my book. Likewise, Autoditacker strikes me as the best balance of their receding straight-up IDM roots and their growing organic sound and pop sensibilities.

Don't sleep on Lithops, either. Jan's (I think) solo proj--less beat-oriented, it's all about making machines sing. Very nice.

Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

melodic Autechre = Amber.

hstencil, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah see im not hearing that old shit as much, confield is the future!

simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

search: 'chagrin', doing the boc thang first and bettah

i haven't heard much m.o.m, i tried to get into idiology at the cd store listening post but it wasn't happenin'

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)

That's what I always hear about Amber, but that never struck me as a melodic record. More of a drifting kind of thing.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

oh and there's this track on vulvand that when i played it in my car one of the noises sounded (on my tinny no-bass car speakers) like a piece of car falling off and scraping along the highway, that was unnerving, i had to change it.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

ha why do avant-gardists think that drifty = melodic?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

that track with the fake strings is mad melodic, yo.

< /trife >

hstencil, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

< /wigga > !!!

simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:45 (twenty-three years ago)

damn MoM put me on my nerves. It makes me feel the same as jazz: I feel there is quite a lot of genius into their records, their interviews and fans seem to back that up, but I don't get it at all and feel very dumb about it.
I actually have 2 MoM albums, Vulvaland and Audioditacker, bought them because of hype in my snob-avantgardist teen years. I like vulvaland, soothing, not too taxing, but everytime I finish listening to audioditacker trying to get into it I feel so anxious I have to put one of my favourites records verily loud just to remember what really loving a record feels like. One part of myself says "pretentious synth wankers stop listening or it'll hurt your head", the other says "I'm missing something I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE"
Man, I've even tried listening to it in all my mushroom trips to see if I can gain an attachment to it, but I always quickly ignore it.

mario 3 (mario), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

my use of the word 'pretentious' above was not a direct criticism on Autechre, who I've heard absolutely nothing of, but a criticism of the 'if it's melodic isn't not real maaaan' nonsense.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

"There is too much sterile-sounding, stilted electronic music out there of the Autechre variety. If you're going to make drum-oriented music, please, have a sense of rhythm."

hahahahahahaha. Personally, I haven't heard any electronic music that's come as close to being as rhythmically advanced/interesting/bad-ass as Autechre (see: the second track on Peel Sessions 2, much of Confield & Chiastic Slide, Gantz Graf).

I also think they have some very nice melodies, though often not at the same time as the hardcore rhythmic stuff.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Who wants to describe the new album to someone with no slsk, a broken soundcard and no promo love?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's poppier. Vocals on every track. MoM meets Daft Punk meets Prince.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

And am I to assume that this is the best thing ever?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

wow! that sounds awesome! are we talking about dirty mind prince or what?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You're not tricking me again, god dammit

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I like

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

slsk this bastard!!

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It's technopunkpop.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

wheres the punk come from?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anything ambient/orchestral on it? I would miss that if it were gone

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The punk comes from the bits that rock, messily. And the vocals. No ambient, orchestral bits. Use old records for that.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

MoM's newest is maybe their best, i think... having only had a month+ with it, it's too hard to say yet... they're one of my favorites though, and hands down the best live act i have EVER seen... i have never seen such a sweaty crowd (LA, el rey, idiology tour). Autoditacker is actually what got me into electronic music along with aphex stuff, like most people... but while i don't listen to aphex much anymore, i still put MoM in all the time. i definitely prefer their poppier stuff (auto-, niun, idiology, and now, radical connector), but sound design-wise they're fantastic no matter what they're doing. plus the lyrics are brilliant... it makes contempo philosophizing fun.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

most rock people, i should clarify... aphex big bridge for rock people my age (23)...

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

do the synths still sound like they have a bad cold? this really makes or breaks the deal for me.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

absolutely... possibly tuberculosis... but other times they take big deep zen breaths, hold them in for half a song and then cough them out

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

not to hate, but just want to mention this as someone who's been buying every release on sight for the last ten years... this is the first record of theirs I can't listen to, and I've tried several times over the last few months. I am happy they're obviously about to connect to a whole new audience, but I have to hop off the bus for this album.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I've yet to see anything less than rave reviews in print & online though, right up to 'album of the year', many from people I generally respect, so don't let me stop you.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

there is something to be said for the stylistic consistency of mouse on mars (and the live-dodo-bird rarity of that style, given) that they inspire that kind of collector-scum wallet brutality, almost to the level of AFX and Stereolab but without all the japan-only/limited edition shit going on.

To be honest it's also what's driven me away, I'm with the above poster on buying practically everything over the last decade or so, but in my case I'm ready for a change. All I ask is one handraiser, one well-arranged piece of mayhem that can hold my attention for more than half a minute or so, and since we're talking about an album, no more of the filler that made idiology such a disappointment by the third or fourth listen.

Who are the vocalists?

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

a woman named niobe... and then dodo and maybe even the boys
themselves? has it even dropped yet? don't think so. i've yet
to see proper credits. hard to imagine getting sick of this
album so long as i don't overdoit in the beginning.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Niobe that's the dealbreaker for me.

I loved the first two tracks on 'Idiology'... it came out so quickly after 'Niun', and so many of the tracks were so crazy / sloppy that I just took that album as a fun transitional blowing-off-of-steam from (which they obviously slaved over) and I didn't hold it against them.

This new one though, it's a statement...

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

meant to type:

blowing-off-of-stream from the previous record (which they obviously slaved over)

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this record. Took me a while to get into them, only after I got a free copy of Idiology, which is now one of my favourite records ever. I saw them with stereolab *many* years ago but didn't get it. I will be sorely dissapointed if they don't tour this properly.

hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Dusted: Mouse on Mars interview
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/276

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
bump.

Got the new one today. reactions from those who have it already? "Instrumentals" bores me a bit tbh, but "Rost Pocks" & "Idiology" are fab. One of those acts where I'm actually wary of hearing more of their records in case they don't match up to the same standard.

Mmmm "Send Me Shivers" is doing it for me at the moment :)

Subtly processed female vocals = big weakness of mine, I don't really enjoy Sophie Rimheden though, but adore Ellen Allien. Should I really be buying disco records?

ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
fuck.

MoM are as bad as Autechre for zero-critical-agreement on what is their best work. I'll probably try 'Glam' next I think.

This one is such a dissapointment. I think I'm going to sell it.

i contribute something on ilm?? (i lurk on ilm), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
This - http://www.quio.poemproducer.com/ (mp3's thru link) is what 'Radical Connector' should have sounded like! :-O

Search

Rost Pocks
Idiology
Instrumentals
Vulvaland
Niun Niggung

find/download - 'Untitled States Of'

Destroy

Radical Connector

(Yet to hear 'Autoditacker'& not too bothered tbh, want to hear 'Glam' eventually. Probably sleeping on Iaora Tahiti unfairly).

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Glam is awesome, their best imo.

Amon (eman), Saturday, 30 April 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

>> is what 'Radical Connector' should have sounded like!


Radical Connector is one of the best records of the last 10 years. Thank fuck it doesn't sound like you think it should.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope this doesn't ruin it for anyone but the chord progression in "state of emergency" reminds me of a slowed-down "hell" by squirrel nut zippers lol, like there's some hot jazz in it. in the album overall there is a lot of richness in the percussion and arrangements, a lot of really psychedelic magic going on, but there are also some fundamental hooks in all of the tracks and some pretty basic if elegant emotional coloring. the one element that turned can into the sound of primivitve madness was karoli's extremely gnarly guitar playing imo. mom don't go for that kind of chromatic blues anywhere. the chords maintain a basic tonality. lsp has a kind of truly gnarly and out there presence. i find it moving to hear him in this kind of context where everything is really rich but the appeal of melody and harmony is there too.

shaking babies (map), Saturday, 6 June 2026 18:56 (one week ago)

This is really growing on me, it's rich.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 16:35 (four days ago)

curious what your thoughts are about the horns and jazz influence, jordan.

shaking babies (map), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 17:09 (four days ago)

like a lot of others here, I loved early MoM (Autoditacker is all-time for me) and jumped off the train with Idiology. Still processing this album. Before it came out I listened to the three songs that were released and they got me so excited for the full album. Went through the full album the day it came out and was pretty into it. Played it for someone with no knowledge of Lee "Scratch" Perry and had to turn it off because the vocals were so abrasive and annoying to them. Listening to it afterward, I understand their reaction.

beard papa, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 17:39 (four days ago)

curious what your thoughts are about the horns and jazz influence, jordan.

I like them as a texture, but of course the press release invoking 'New Orleans second line' rubs me the wrong way, it doesn't have anything to do with that. Mostly they're just playing parts, but the horns on State of Emergency remind me more of a Balkan brass band than anything.

And I just looked and Zach Condon (aka Beirut) plays on it, so there you go.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:15 (four days ago)

cool thanks.

shaking babies (map), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:20 (four days ago)

if you like this album and don't know 21st Century Mouse you might dig this track, which I think comes from a similar place as this album. except it's got Swamp Dogg on it instead. Ratt On!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShL1zD1YRY8

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 19:16 (four days ago)

holy cow thank you I had no
idea

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 20:26 (four days ago)

I think this is another MoM all-timer for me, I love the simmer and bubble of the tracks, and all the wildcard instrumentation. Keep thinking I hear Tuvan/Mongolian throat singing.
Also I can't fathom somebody not liking the Scratch vocals, they are bedded in and woven into the texture. Like Von Südenfed I can only guess at the amount of work needed to make this cohere, but it's a brilliant result.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 21:00 (four days ago)

yeah it’s a winner

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 21:13 (four days ago)

I drank a beer at lunch, because it's hot and been kind of a rough day at work, and I'm just loving this. I take it all back. The call & response flute and sax in Economic Train get me in the mood for Fela Kuti or Quincy Jones orchestra or something. The backing music in Spatialee sounds like it could be on an Ethiopiques comp. But, as others have said, I think about Can a lot while listening to this, too. This might be a summer BBQ kind of album for me.

beard papa, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 23:02 (four days ago)

I listened to Instrumentals for the first time in many years earlier today, and MoM have always been so good at coming up with catchy little phrases that make you wonder how nobody else had thought of them first.

beard papa, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 23:04 (four days ago)

this got my partner's seal of approval and he's not usually into weirder music. the more i listen to it the more i like it.

shaking babies (map), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 23:21 (four days ago)

"Yayaya" seems to be clearly patterned after one of my favorite Can songs, "One More Night"

frogbs, Thursday, 11 June 2026 19:47 (three days ago)

i took a photo of a blue penstemon wildflower and shared it with my guy on whatsapp. i saw he responded with a butterfly emoji so i opened up the photo and was like 'omg they do look like little blue butterflies' and 'yayaya' was playing and right when i had this thought lsp sang "turn into a butterfly and fly in the sky".

shaking babies (map), Thursday, 11 June 2026 20:14 (three days ago)

xp isn't it gorgeous? I could listen to it for an hour (as I could One More Night).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 June 2026 21:12 (three days ago)


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