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River of Bass ad lib

― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Thursday, 18 May 2006 06:33 (twenty years ago)

'rez / cowgirl' off the live album.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 18 May 2006 06:37 (twenty years ago)

Two Months Off

― Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Thursday, 18 May 2006 07:19 (twenty years ago)

long and dark

― grapple (grapple), Thursday, 18 May 2006 08:38 (twenty years ago)

'cups'.

― pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 18 May 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Cowgirl

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 18 May 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

rez/cowgirl off the live album also.

close run with dark and long dark train version.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

The original, non-Nuxx version of "Born Slippy"

― Scott Warner (thream), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:40 (twenty years ago)

rez/cowgirl off the live album also also

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:50 (twenty years ago)

the versh of 'dark and long' off of 'trainspotting'

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Dark & Long (Dark Train remix). Easily too.

― rchinn (rchinn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:53 (twenty years ago)

yeah that's the one.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)

SOMETHING TO DO WITH MINIMAL VOX

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Can't recall if it's "spoonman" or "surfboy" that i'm thinking of (think it's the latter), but it's the one where they go all stuttering miami electro bass and have the rising pitches sorta trailing off throughout the song, until it builds up and starts going "doo doo doo doo. doo doo doo doo" with this great little sound. that's always been a favorite.

but overall i'd probably go with "dirty epic" just for repeat listening value

― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 12:00 (twenty years ago)

ripping my dubnobass vinyl will have to wait a couple of weeks. but as i type, i'm listening to "dirty epic", which i've just bought off fucking iTunes as i couldn't find a decent enough rip elsewhere. this is maybe the first time i've heard it in ten years. right now there is a case for it being the single greatest song ever made.

i love rediscovering forgotten favourites. thank you, ILM.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

the piano. the glorious piano. o god. "shaken in my faith". godlike.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing; Underworld has a whole bunch of seriously awesome songs (many of which are listed on this thread) but none of them have the layers or the sheer smack-you-with-a-sledgehammer impact of "Dirty Epic". Plus as far as the singing goes it's probably the best vocal they've ever had.

― Dan (The Light It Blinds My Eyes) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

someone please say 'underneath the radar'

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha I was half-tempted to say "Crash"!

― Dan (Then I Remembered How It Went) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:22 (twenty years ago)

check how much 'washing machine is speaking' by ellen allien owes itself to 'surfboy'

― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)

it does? I'm going to check that out.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

(at least at the very beginning)

― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

"Bruce Lee"

(radio edit of "Two Months Off" is probably what I find myself listening to the most, though)

― etc, Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Whatever Dan and Grimly said about "Dirty Epic" = completely accurate. It's the one I keep coming back to.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Born Slippy Nuxx

There may be other songs i'd put on before it now, but my life would have been a lot poorer over the last ten years without it. I mean, fuck.

― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:00 (twenty years ago)

ellen allien she's rubbish.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I can hear where Gear is coming from on that one, but I have to squint a bit.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

I change my pick to "Big Mouth." I wish I could play harmonica like that.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:25 (twenty years ago)

the similarity between the two tracks really only goes so far as the repetitive intros.

i might have to change my vote to 'dark and long (dark train)'

― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

"Dirty (DMD Remix)" was the first Underworld tune I heard, and it's still the only one I really like, I can't stand their vocals. Love the Akira sample at the end, as well as the contrast between the synth background and the horn loop. "Why Why Why" is okay too.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I remember reading on some other thread that "Dirty" was actually released as Lemon Incident or something, but the version I have is credited to Underworld. Anyway, "Dirty Epic" is obviously a rework of this tune, but it's not as good as the first one.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)

madman

― gear (gear), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Lemon Interrupt! "Big Mouth" was a Lemon Interrupt tune as well.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 19 May 2006 01:26 (twenty years ago)

"Tin There" (Wipeout XL version)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

It looks like they released the original "Dirty" as Underworld too:

http://www.discogs.com/release/118220

I just listened to "Dirty Epic", and it omits most of the wonderful atmosphere of the original and replaces it with rather boring indie vocals. I wish they'd done more instrumentals.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

yeah Lemon Interrupt's "Big Mouth" is fantastic.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)

I just listened to "Dirty Epic", and it omits most of the wonderful atmosphere of the original and replaces it with rather boring indie vocals.

Er, no it doesn't?

― Dan (Are We Listening To The Same Song?) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Rez for dancefloor action, Dirty Epic for home listening, Born Slippy for throw your hands in the air collective live experience

― Robin Goad (rgoad), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)

(To clarify: the version of "Dirty" that I have is basically eight minutes of the climactic bit of "Dirty Epic" played over and over. "Diry Epic" is better because the components of that climax are broken down and phased into the song over time. continually building you up to that awesome climax as opposed to dropping you in it and then not going anywhere forever, also known as That Annoying Thing Underworld Does Sometimes That Makes Potentially Great Songs Boring At Best And Unlistenable At Worst.)

― Dan (Structure Isn't A Bad Thing) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:54 (twenty years ago)

prefer 'Dirty' to 'Dirty Epic' myself, tho i am fine with Hyde's vocals always (lyrics, less so, haha).

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Dan, I can see what you're saying, but I think we just approach the song from different points of view... I first heard "Dirty" as a trance/techno fan, and thought the athmospherics were wonderful. I have no need for progression in a song if I like its sound world, though "Dirty" does actually progress like any techno track does. To me, "Dirty Epic" is much worse because it only features the horn and the synth sounds in small bits, and instead is dominated by generic indie vocals (which are also more conventional and less hypnotic than in some than some of the better Underworld vocal tracks). Also, if the version you have is eight minutes long, it probably omits the spooky outro with the vocal samples from Akira, which is one more reason to love the tune.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Another Underworld production I really love, for pretty much the same reasons as "Dirty", is their remix of Björk's "Human Behaviour".

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:24 (twenty years ago)

"Mmm Skyscraper" -- the only one where I can remember how it sounds while not playing it.

― a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:28 (twenty years ago)

i think i only have the edited version of 'Dirty' from the Abduction compilation which is under 8 minutes but does include the Akira sample at the end.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Okay, the version I have is on Trance Sylvania 4 and it lasts for 11 minutes, don't know what's the difference between the two.

Maybe it's time to dust off my copies of Dubnobass and Second Toughest and give them another try, the last time I listened to them I was going through a heavy "no rock in my techno, please" period, but maybe I'm older now and can appreciate them for what they're worth. I do remember liking the first LP when it first came out.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)

opz

― molly (bulbs), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:49 (twenty years ago)

I remember thinking "just a bunch of Beloved 12" remix b-sides" when DNBHMHM first came out. Like it well enough now tho.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

The juxtaposition of the blase vocals that become more urgent and strained as the song goes and the surreal images they evoke with the pulsating bassline and the building layers of synths and samples are exactly what make "Dirty Epic" work so well; the entire thing is a continuous crescendo in both volume and energy on a scale matched by few of their other songs (really only "Mmm Skyscraper..." and the original "Born Slippy" even play in the same league; most of the other Underworld tracks either don't go for this type of structure or aren't as massively epic).

Also I had indie grounding but I came at "Dirty Epic" after being a big rave/trip-hip/d'n'b zombie for about eight years so I don't know that our perspectives were that different aside from the whole sideline of also singing classical music.

― Dan (Captain Save-A-"Dirty Epic") Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)

i know yooo-send-eeet isn't allowed on this board, but if anyone has an mp3 of the original born slippy, i can check this yahoo email account...

― a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:19 (twenty years ago)

uh, what happened to ysi?

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I would trade one of the Drift tracks for "Cups."

― henry s, Friday, 9 July 2021 19:54 (four years ago)

opo

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 9 July 2021 20:04 (four years ago)

8 Ball is my OPO. Agree above, but I would remove NUXX, both Drift tracks, and put in 8 Ball, Luetin, and Best Mamgu Ever.

― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 July 2021 20:07 (four years ago)

Thanks!

― djh, Friday, 9 July 2021 22:28 (four years ago)

I can’t see the list but I’ll add Custard Speedtalk just in case brolodu removed it

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 9 July 2021 23:10 (four years ago)

I've found it pretty weird to revisit the Drift stuff lately - I listened to it constantly leading right up to the pandemic so when I hear odd tracks from it now it reminds me so much of the time right before

― frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 04:21 (four years ago)

x-post - ha, yes - it was suggested that it be removed.

― djh, Saturday, 10 July 2021 14:49 (four years ago)

Original track listing

Dirty Epic
Dark and Long - Dark Train
Juanita - Kiteless - To Dream of Love
Born Slippy (Nuxx)
Two Months Off
Pearl's Girl
Mmm ... Skyscraper, I Love You
Custard Speedtalk
Dune
Louisiana

― djh, Saturday, 10 July 2021 16:04 (four years ago)

There are probably 5 or so 'single disk best-of's' i could create for UW without overlapping songs. They've done so many good songs. I'm desperate for a Peach Tree / Ansum 12".

― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 10 July 2021 16:33 (four years ago)

I don't know how in the world you make an 80 minute UW comp given most of their best tracks are 8+ minutes long. Juanita, Rez/Cowgirl (from EE), and Dark Train alone would be like half of it. Off the top of my head this is missing Ova Nova, Holding the Moth, Scribble, Bird 1, Faxed Invitation....

― frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 16:37 (four years ago)

Bird 1 has the best lyrics of any Karl Hyde song, imo. Think it gets overlooked, but it's a fantastic song.

― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 10 July 2021 16:40 (four years ago)

it's interesting how when you listen to Barking there are so many elements that immediately strike you as not UW-like, despite the extremely diverse and prolific career they've had. as a result it tends to get written out of their catalogue a lot. I think it's great but the version that exists in my head is better :)

― frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 16:47 (four years ago)

The original idea was to make a CD for the car (which in itself is different from a "Best of ...") but, more generally, I do like home made compilations for making me have a dive into a back catalogue that I've been neglecting. There's also quite a bit of joy in finding out the tracks that other people would have included - I've discovered/re-discovered/re-evaluated loads of tracks via ILXOR suggestions.

― djh, Saturday, 10 July 2021 20:08 (four years ago)

If it’s a compilation for your car, two of my favorite “driving” songs from UW are their remixes of Orbital - Lush, and their remix of Zion Youth by Dreadzone. Both are 94/95 and are about as good as anything on Dubno or STITI.

― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 10 July 2021 20:47 (four years ago)

one year passes...

In the mood for some new Underworld.

― djh, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:50 (three years ago)

after Drift Vol. 1 they said something like "ok we're gonna take a short break and resume with Drift 2 very soon". guessing the pandemic screwed up their plans

fwiw the 20th anniversary of AHDO came and went with no deluxe edition. wonder if it's because they didn't think it would sell or because there just aren't a lot of B-sides and unreleased tracks

― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:00 (three years ago)

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