I LOVE DRUKQS+

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Drukqs is kinda shitty.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

And you should be liking the "ambient" shit more.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

It suffered from not having a coherent direction. I did dig the piano jams tho, the other stuff not so much...

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed.

For me, it's got plenty of good things but it's the least interesting of the "proper" studio albums, no doubt.

It's Tough to Beat Illious (noodle vague), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I started liking it after some review pointed out that there is something coherent in there, piano things, typically followed by more typical Aphex things (or at least stuff a bit like RDJ), followed by thing that sound a bit like Japanese temple sort of stuff, like Nanou 2, for example. This isn't exact, but it did make me like it more, for whatever reason.

I pretty much thought it was shite when it came out.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's pretty exact! Noisy beats followed by short prepared piano piece and repeat. It works for me.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

yeah this cd is good it goes in headphone rotation probly every 3-4 months for the past 5 years

and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

i havent heard summer teeth since i was in h.s. but it soundtracked alot of good times with friends, im sure its still pretty good

and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

luff dis album (drukqs). prefer the tonality of the prprd. disklavier pieces to the prepared piano pieces of cage.

held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

there is a good cohesion in the sequence of tracks, but unsure that it's not just a result of being familiar w/the album. it has a natural flow

held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I actually just put the ambient/treated piano tracks on my ipod when I ripped it. To me that's a fantastic album and the one he should have really released. If it'd been like some of the Analord stuff I'd have had more patience but it would've still added little to what would've been a very coherent album for him.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

"I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed."

I got into Aphex Twin way late and sorta heard everything all at once. Drukqs struck me as the best. It's still my favorite.

Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

i find drukqs to be his most listenable album.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

hey yeah i never got all the drukqs hate when it came out. i thought there was a lot more going on in/with the drill tracks on drukqs than on richard d. james, and the prepared stuff is fantastic. i'm kinda meh on aphex in general though--love 'i care because you do,' squelchy early stuff, SAW 85-92, don't care for SAWII or richard d. james. i might pull out drukqs right now; it's probably been five years since i've heard it.

plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

i think drukqs suffered from a critical short-circuit

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

Drukqs is every bit as unlistenable as Metal Machine Music.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

Have you heard the entire album?

Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

and the race to post on the wit & wisdom thread begins

and what (ooo), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

Well, besides the piano bits of course. Those are lovely.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

I was a fanboy from 92 and I thought the quality of releases had been going down for a while when it came out. It has some good bits, particularly the piano stuff which is still great and some of the drill stuff was actually pretty good.

but... the drill stuff was already getting kinda old when this came out and he was looking to end his relationship with warp. I found the analord stuff actually pretty good and at least had a bit of a new direction.

hector (hector), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

i like metal machine music.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

I keep replaying "Avril 14." Is the rest of the album this good?

Tape Store, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

i finally picked this up a couple weeks ago. it's a bit of an inconsistent album, but i think there's some great stuff on it. i've not yet really digested disc 2 (which seems a little spottier) but disc 1 is excellent.

it kind of got trashed, it seems, when it was first released, but i'm quite happy i finally picked it up. it's a lot better than some of those early reviews made it out to be.

Mark Clemente, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Tape Store, it's his most complete album, however it was let down by the fact it came out about 4 years too late. Rather than a huge stylistic leap, it's a sprawling double album that concentrates on refining what he had been doing since 1996, so to seasoned fans who expected another wacky twist in the ongoing Aphex saga, they were to be disappointed. It has an awful lot of material, some of it excellent and a lot of it, well, awful. But that was always the idea with Aphex I suppose. It was never about being polished and more about the fun ideas. Throw it at a wall and see if it sticks, and if it doesn't chuck it in the pot anyway.

the next grozart, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

"54 Cymru Beats" is one of his all-time best.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

The stretch between "vordhosbn" and "Afx237 V7" is great, but after that I usually turn it off or skip 7 tracks

robertwolf8080, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

You can makea a dinky 60 minute cut by ripping out all the whoops-I-left-the-tape-running moments.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 22 October 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

grozart's response intrigues me; I'm going to buy this.

Tape Store, Monday, 22 October 2007 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

"Avril 14th" is like the best soundtrack piece Jon Brion never wrote.

jaymc, Sunday, 10 August 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

i love drukqs

Creeztophair, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

i wonder if druckqs will be one of those albums that gradually gets the kudos and props that weren't there initially, until, one day, it is described as a classic (probably around the time of the next release, when people will say "man this, shit is just druckqs redux, now that was a cool lp"???

― gareth, Monday, March 11, 2002 8:00 PM

^^

am0n, Saturday, 5 September 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

miss gareth :(

ian, Sunday, 6 September 2009 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, I just noticed that my copy of "Druckqs" has a parental advisory sticker on it. What am I missing?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)

It has a song called "Cock", no other reason really.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

Which I guess makes Richard James the only other act besides Frank Zappa (at least that I can think of) to get a parental advisory notice stuck on an instrumental release.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

There's a swear on one of the tracks I think?

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

yeah 'Cock/Ver10' has the word "cunt" on it

braveclub, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah. All I could hear in my head was the Squarepusher track with "I'm the fucking daddy" on it.

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Jeez I bought my copy from Warp and I actually have a sticker somewhere that says "Come On You Cunt Let's Have Some Aphex Acid"

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

eight months pass...

I have just bought this album again, and am about to listen to it for only the second time in 10 years.

It's just become such a "thing," my fear of this album. I think I'm such a different person and have such different tastes in music and different expectations that it will be interesting for me to see how my reactions to it have changed.

The Curve Of Binding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

how can you even remember your reaction to an album (a double disc album no less) that you heard once over 10 years ago?

I always wrote this album off due to hearing a lot of bad reviews (ok, just from allmusic, but in my teen years AMG was biblical to me), I'm kind of curious about it now.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Friday, 21 May 2010 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

i remember my reaction and that was that it was good, but nothing new - and "something new" was what i'd come to expect of aphex, and therefore druqks was a bit of a failure. i've dug this out recently and it's a real re-assessor. Ziggomatic is a good fun tune peeps.

village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2010 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

i was disappointed by this when it came out for the same reason. i've since come to see it as the last word in "drill n bass" shit or whatever, with a pretty brilliant mix of other material thrown in. doesn't always work though, and admittedly i most often listen to a single-disc redux of favorites i made if i put it on these days...

Billy Crystals (another al3x), Friday, 21 May 2010 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

i love this album and i really can't wait to see what he comes up with next

ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't really get into chosen lords or much of the analord stuff but bwoon dub off analord02 is very nice

ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

I also liked Drukqs a lot more than critics did, but admittedly could've done without the multiple straight-piano songs.

kelpolaris, Friday, 21 May 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

Because it was SOOO hyped before hand (and Aphex phanboys are a whole WORLD of obsessiveness if you've never encountered them) and then the critical reaction was a bit "hrrrmmm" and because it was just such an EVENT that Mr. D.James could put out an album that was viewed as less than stellar. It was also the early days of the Blogosphere and I guess EVENT records that send shockwaves across the Blogosphere are a dime a dozen now and therefore not such an event, but at the time it seemed to take up a lot more space, culturally, than it might otherwise. I guess I just heard so many Aphex phanboys who were outraged that it coloured the experience for me and I approached it on first listen with the expectation that it was going to be both hard going and not very good.

It's odd how the critical reaction of other people can colour your experience of a record, even to make you dislike something you wouldn't normally pay attention to. But also, at the time, I don't think I *liked* Aphex. I was a Spacemen 3 stan who didn't see the point of "modern dance music" - i.e. I liked Selected Ambient Works (but saw it as an outlier that was nothing like the rest of his stuff) and Orbital, but wasn't prepared to go any further out than that at all.

In 2001 I was in a very different place, emotionally and musically, and listening to a lot of glitchy era Radiohead and people were saying to me "you shouldn't be listening to that, you should be listening to Aphex and Squarepusher" and so I tried this album, and my reaction was that it was NOTHING like what I liked about Kid A/Amnesiac - my immediate reaction was "bleurgh, this is a lot of noise and disjointed random rhythms that make no sense."

It's funny, though, *now* having learned a lot more, and broadened my tastes, my reaction to it is very different. I mean, the other record I just bought at the same time was the new FlyLo and if I can pick out order and pattern from that burst of randomness, Drukqs is almost easy listening by comparison. A lot of the stuff that just irritated me at the time (WTF? Why does he have his parents singing happy birthday on one track? And some random chick shouting at him in French on another? What's with the awkward piano solos?) makes a lot more sense in the context of knowing more about him as an artist and as a human being. It seems less like a random assortment of sounds, and more like a carefully crafted collage of a self portrait.

So it's partly about taking a record on its own terms, rather than as a Cultural Event. And partly about how my tastes have completely changed. (It's funny, I thought people's tastes were supposed to get narrower in their 30s. My tastes got narrower in my 20s, then just completely exploded in my late 30s)

The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:32 (sixteen years ago)

There's something very creepy in Richard's mum's Cornish-accented voice isn't there? What about that whooping laughter on one of the Ventolin EPs?

village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:42 (sixteen years ago)

Erm, no. I thought his mum sounds like a right laugh. Especially the impromptu harmony on the "tooo yooouuu" bit. More Welsh than Cornish accent, though.

"Richie" made me laugh, though. The idea of anyone calling him Richie seems inconceivable but clearly his mum does. Adorable.

The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

COME ON YOU C*NTS LETS HAVE SOME APHEX ACID!

ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

This isn't a Britfunk track and I certainly don't remember it from when it came out, but I think this might the sample I was referring to on the Collapse EP (video should be set to the right time)—I would have to have got most of the facts wrong though, although that is entirely possible. If I come across something more fitting, I will post it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWqRlAXGn-4

Keith, Thursday, 25 April 2024 10:32 (two years ago)

i think ilm strips the time parameters

Collapse is about 7 minutes in

koogs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:40 (two years ago)

Haha, you mean I stripped the time parameters! To be fair to me, I dunno if YouTube has time parameters when I wrote it.

Keith, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:50 (two years ago)

Very polite of you though, A.

Keith, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:50 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

It's this his best album? I didn't really get it at the time and thought it had too much filler, but I've been relistening to it these past weeks and it keeps blowing my mind. It's both very accesible and inaccesible... I think that contrast was off-pùtting to me when I was younger as it makes for a very uneven listen, but the sound design and quality in every one of these is him at the top of his game. I still find it hard to listen to it as a full album but in low doses is really cool. It slowly becoming one of my favorite albums of all time.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 January 2025 04:14 (one year ago)

otm

ivy., Thursday, 9 January 2025 13:23 (one year ago)

I dig it a lot, very much, moreso than in the past.

brimstead, Thursday, 9 January 2025 15:43 (one year ago)

It may actually be my favourite album of all time.

Keith, Thursday, 9 January 2025 17:28 (one year ago)

It's aged well but not my fav still. Some great discourse above from '22-'24 about this album that's some of my favorite on this entire board.

octobeard, Thursday, 9 January 2025 17:56 (one year ago)

its a one off. it has this stark, organic (sorry), mechanical feeling that none of his other stuff does. its like the and some kind of narrative/curve/path, too.

maelin, Thursday, 9 January 2025 18:26 (one year ago)

I don't revisit it often but when I do my reaction is "whoa, this is way better than I remembered it"

maybe one of those where my first impression was kind of dismissive which colored my opinion of it ever since. in part because I loved the gimmicky stuff he was doing, but to be fair RDJ himself did a real lousy job promoting it, saying they were just toss-offs he never meant to release but did anyway for whatever reason, made me feel it probably wasn't worth listening more than a couple times

frogbs, Thursday, 9 January 2025 18:29 (one year ago)

I was 16 when it was released and my music taste wasn’t as “sophisticated”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 January 2025 18:43 (one year ago)

I listen to it decades later and now I understand better what he was doing in here and feel like I missed out so many years.

Also I was a student and I had some subpar speakers and cheap headphones so that probably didn’t help. This album sounds majestic on good headphones.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 January 2025 18:57 (one year ago)

I enjoyed it very much at the time. One disc was stolen along with my CD Walkman in a break-in at our flat on Archway Road 2001. I might buy it again. I have good speakers now.

kraudive, Thursday, 9 January 2025 19:28 (one year ago)

That was a horrible flat.

kraudive, Thursday, 9 January 2025 19:29 (one year ago)

but to be fair RDJ himself did a real lousy job promoting it, saying they were just toss-offs he never meant to release but did anyway for whatever reason, made me feel it probably wasn't worth listening more than a couple times

Kind of amazing, in its own way—promoting your own record in such a way that would make people want to not listen to it. That combined with the many reviewers that said it was an 'LP full of Erik Satie-like piano pieces', indicating that they had not listened beyond TRACK ONE.

Keith, Thursday, 9 January 2025 19:35 (one year ago)


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