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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link
You are not alone.
"Lately I've been hearing Coldplay as the 21st Century's Supertramp."
Neither are you.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soukesian, Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― musicjohn73 (musicjohn73), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Then, Syd left the band, and they were still great. Only in a different way.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Gier, today is the day that I write in my calendar that we agree.
(It's how this philosophy gets applied after the fact that we don't agree on...)
But Dark Side of the Moon is beyond my scope.
(Dad Rock)
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow. that's a bit harsh, no?
In any case, I don't think I can be objective about this album anymore. I used to be a huge Pink Floyd fan, and this was the first of theirs I'd layed ears on. Prior to the `Floyd, rock began and ended with Kiss for me, so Dark Side of the Moon was a real....er....ear-opener. I'd be lying if I said I played it a lot, and my freshman year of college, there was a jackass down the hall from me who literally played it EVERY DAY and soul-denting volumes, so I went out of my way not to hear it for a long time after. That said, I still think there are some truly sublime moments on it (largely thanks to Dave Gilmour's guitar).
But, I'd take Animals over it any day.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
A group of us once got suckered by this guy into watching Wizard of Oz with Dark Side playing underneath it. After we made him stop the movie, a friend of mine told me that he had never heard this album before. I was surprised, but asked him what he thought of it.
He said he liked it all right, but had no idea that there was all that ambient conversation. First time he heard the laughter at the beginning, he thought that it was one of us.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, that's my story. The only Floyd I ever really liked is, of course, the first album, "Apples and Oranges" and "See Emily Play" and "Arnold Layne," and I used to enjoy those people who'd learned "Wish You Were Here" and played the song on their acoustic guitars at parties to impress people. A simpler time, and Geir, *no one* was dancing!!
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
It's on backup... I'll fish it out here in a couple of days - keep checking my folder.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― sixteenblue (sixteenblue19), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, not for nothing, but citing the Cocteau Twins as "atmospheric" is just as much of a cliche as calling Dark Side.. "atmospheric".Welll...actually the cliché is to use "Cocteau Twins" and "Ethereal" in the same sentence.
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― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine: exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Friday, 17 June 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
As for the comment I made in my first post, maybe I was a bit harsh about the "Floyd == Classic" crowd when I called them "Tin-Eared".I meant cloth-eared.Sorry. My Bad.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
much obliged.
― Lingbertt, Friday, 17 June 2005 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
This is why Geir likes Captain Beefheart so much.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 17 June 2005 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link
so ridiculously OTM.
Wish you were here should be on that album just so i could hate it even more.
Animals is far superior and actually the only floyd i can even think about listening to right now.
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 17 June 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
and then there's those OTHER people here who seem to be so into melody, but really interesting melodic stuff, such as odd or dissonant melodies, they aren't into at all. Some people need to realize there is a world outside straight melody.
― Am0n, Friday, 17 June 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link
b-b-b-but they had to have some screaming gosepl shit there. That was the tornado scene!
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 17 June 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
It's either all in the pretty much the same tempo or all in the same key, I can't remember which. Didn't one of the band members admit later that they realized this after the fact and should have varied it a bit? Anyway, I think the shapeless description is dead on although another word that would fit is monotonous.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
animals > wish you were here >>> dark side of the moon
― Amon (eman), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Ian Riese-Moraine: exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (eastern_mantr...), June 17th, 2005 9:05 PM.
How do you mean?
The former sounds a lot like a skewered cousin of the latter to my ears. It's hard to explain but it makes sense to me. If Pink Floyd weren't so dreary I could see them making something like it.
Speaking of dreary, it amazes me how lifeless Dark Side sounds in comparison with Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom, which was recorded the following year and produced by Nick Mason.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Saturday, 18 June 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Y'know, I'm almost pining for the days when I had to fend off an ICP fan. It was much more fun to bitch about the Incredible Shiteness of ICP instead of the Incredible Shiteness of Floyd. "ICP" merely sounds like the name of an evil corporation; whereas "Pink Floyd" sounds like the name of the flounciest redneck at the truckstop diner.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
this is SO right. rock bottom is also laced with wyatt's sense of humour, which makes it an immensely more appealing album.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Also see Axl Rose going "Yow!" all over the good parts of the Use Your Illusion albums. I would've been right behind ya, Izzy.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link
you can say what you like about the self-indulgence, the would-be jazz affectations, the 'suburban loner' isms referenced up top and tie yrself in endless knots about why it sold so many who to and such...but you really can't beat TIME.
the major flaw i think if there is one on this album is gilmour's vocals but no one's mentioned that so maybe it's just me.
― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link
B-b-b-b-but she's white!
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
The most powerful drumming on the record has to be on either 'Time' or 'Eclipse'. The part where 'Brain Damage' segues into 'Eclipse' is THE moment on this record for me.
― Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://meanspeedmusic.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pink-floyd-meanspeed-chart-speed-psychology-us-and-them-1a.jpg
I have no idea what this means but it rules
― Euler, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
should I turn off "Jamaica Jerk-Off" to listen to "Us & Them"
ridiculous question, I know
― Euler, Friday, February 17, 2012 11:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes :)
― Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
I think if you read that graph starting right when "Us & Them" starts, it rules
― Euler, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
lollll i love that graph.
― tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
http://meanspeedmusic.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pink-floyd-meanspeed-chart-speed-psychology-us-and-them-2.jpg
wtf
― Euler, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
by which I mean, it rules
― Euler, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
no idea what i was on about 6 years ago re Gilmour's vocals. i love those vocals!
― piscesx, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
So I guess I'm the only one whose ever turned up the volume really loud after the "Eclipse" fadeout. I was like 13 when this happened, so forgive me.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
this is one of those "first five CDs i bought" albums where, having listened to it probably 500 times in 1996, i can basically play it note for note in my head. but i grabbed a fixer-upper vinyl copy this week, it cleaned up beautifully, and man, despite some very corny moments it still works for me as just this lush 70s studio-band rock experience. upthread, noiseyrock complains about the sound being too "wet," but the wetness and the studio "space" are what make it magic.
my favorite is still "any colour you like," but "on the run" really jumped up in my estimation this time. were they early Kraftwerk adopters, or what?
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
"breathe" also always a favorite - really like that kind of gentle overdubbed vocal vibe with Floyd. see also "fearless" and "goodbye blue sky."
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
"on the run" really jumped up in my estimation this time. were they early Kraftwerk adopters, or what?
Floyd's use of a sequencer predates that of Kraftwerk by three or four years!
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
oh wow, i had that chronology way off... it just reminded me so much of Autobahn, especially the integration of these more 60s type psychedelic "special effects" with weird slowed down sounds panning darkly through the mix...
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
It's more Tangerine Dream than Kraftwerk but then there's a bit in "Autobahn" which does resembles this - and that sounds more like Tangerine Dream than Kraftwerk too.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
gorgeous album
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
“On The Run” was used as the background music on WLS-AM in Chicago in the mid ‘70s-early ‘80s when the DJ spoke to the winning caller. So they’d announce, “The 15th caller wins tickets to see the Eagles at the Chicago Amphitheater!” or whatever the fuck it was. Then, on the air, the DJ would talk to the winner, and under their conversation would be “On The Run.” It wasn’t until years later, when I finally heard DSOTM, that I found out it was a Pink Floyd song.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link