Which are John Peel's 140 fave albums?

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I'm not disappointed in the slightest by the selection.

The only one I'm surprised with is Nilsson's "Without You". It was number one for ages at the time, and I hated it as much as "Everything I do". Now, I can appreciate it more, without necessarily liking it. (The other Nilsson on is fant. btw)

Oh, and I am so "YEAH!" for the YSI's. THAKNS!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:15 (nineteen years ago) link

bringing the avarage quality WAY down...

Golinsky Brothers:
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NGITRP1UY8I43T00VESKDP2GS

Galactic Symposium:
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ATGKR0A2GO8711EPN7L7K1TH9

i only found the squirrels track this morning so that'll have to wait...

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link

My life is measurably the richer for having heard these two tracks. A thousand thank yous.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

La Peste - Better Off Dead is fucking ace as well and hasn't been mentioned. Subject matter a bit controversial in the light of some of the stories about Peel, i.e. getting head off a 13 year old girl...

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Hee hee. I *love* that song

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The Upsetters - Bucky skank + Yucky skank
Oh, fantastic. Truly pioneering; pre-dates even Augustus Pablo. I discovered this on the orginal 7" last year

What do you mean predates Augustus Pablo? I mean what's the significance?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Very very early dub innit. Particularly on the B-side.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

(What I meant was that "Bucky Skank/Yucky Skank" (1973) pre-dates Augustus Pablo's "King Tubby Meets The Rockers Uptown", (1974) which is often credited as the first dub track. But I'm skating on thin ice with this sort of stuff...)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

If I could get this PC to record, I'd be giving youse Bafflin Smoke Sigs.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost) Haha, I'm going to try to be a good boy and not be a reggaebore about this! But "Bucky Skank" is a version track not a dub track as such...

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh dear, I knew I was getting into hot water with this (he said, mixing metaphors wildly). Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen, as Wittgenstein once said hem hem.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

some great, great records there. as for the massive amount of jack white 7"s, well, John loved the Stripes, and Jack, and since the majority of those 7"s are collectors items (and had become so very soon after their fame exploded) i don't doubt they are precious to him, as Jack probably gave 'em him himself.

alex... you hate most of these records because you've never heard of them? insane. the reason why the cult of peel is so swollen, and why people mourn his passing so much, is because he would probably have greeted a carton of 140 records he'd never heard of as a reason for celebration, because he was always interested in that which he wasn't already familiar.

the person who pointed out Peel didn't invent indie discos is my new favourite poster.

that's a weird list. the 9 white stripes singles seem too many. recently i asked someone where to start with them (5 albums yet) and that person said, they are all essential. i immediately thought fuck them then. i mean what i heard of them was ok but i'll never get 5 cds by them. if all is equally good it is also equally bad.

yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me either. but i'd say start with 'die stihl' (the 'songwriting' album) or 'get behind me satan' (my favourite, their most unhiged and also their most crafted), or track down a copy of 'handsprings', which might be the best thing they've ever done.

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I hear Dan Brown is following up the "Da Vinci Code" with a book about the quest to find the "first ever dub track"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

(by which i mean if all is equally good it is also equally bad doesn't make any sense to me)

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

The Legion of Super-Heroes AND The Mighty Avengers!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I like that Mighty Avengers song, I remember JP playing it late '99 when he was playing songs from all the years of the 20th century.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Right, just to prove a point:

White Stripes, Hand Springs:
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=11N6E2EVBV6ES07N8XF2K56CD2

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

you are doing the lord's work there, mark...

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

fittingly, Stripes neophytes could do little better than checking out the band's two sessions for Peel

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

alex... you hate most of these records because you've never heard of them?
i didn't say that, foxy boxer. you interpret my words. and you interpret them very badly. it's more like if someone chooses his 140 favourite singles and there are only about ten i know and maybe two or three i love why should i bother about the rest. john peel's and my taste seem to be too disparate. maybe it has to do that i am more the album guy (that's where the fault in the thread title comes from) who somehow has never got rid of that prejudice against singles and top 40 stuff i have from the mid 70s when i discovered bands like pink floyd and genesis whom i don't care about too much today. the weird thing is that i used to like blues a lot and still do though i hardly ever listen to it. i also like world music and reggae but rarely listen to it. john peel's record box is very personal. but as i said in my last post i am still curious about it. i listened to the eleven songs mike posted and i appreciated some of them. especially the users, the upsetters, the misunderstood, the yardbirds, some chicken and don covay. and the golinski brothers.

concerning the white stripes. i like them in theory. that hand springs song is great but i think i prefer the blues originals. e.g. i was glad to see lightnin hopkins and elmore james on the list. all this probably doesn't make sense but why should it? john peel' record box doesn't make sense to me neither. there are too many blind spots in it when it concerns my favourites. some artists i couldn't not imagine in my record box: joni mitchell, nick drake, the velvet underground, joy division, the smiths, the cure, giant sand, yo la tengo, talk talk, neil young, the field mice, lambchop, brian eno, roxy music, bob dylan, keith jarrett, pere ubu, wipers, lloyd cole, mary margaret o'hara, pixies, sonic youth, idaho, swell, red house painters, cowboy junkies, robert wyatt, pinback, aimee mann, radiohead, my bloody valentine, meat puppets, feelies, gun club, catherine wheel, new order, nirvana, smashing pumpkins, the chills, american analog set, cocteau twins, talking heads and many more.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope you enjoy writing lists cos I think that was meant for Lex not you :(

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

That's all fine. That's your box. xpost

My box would also be different. Some from Peels, Some from yours, and a lot of stuff not so.

Still, I'm keen to hear the stuff I haven't heard, so let them roll.

Hey, if this thread eventually contains 140 YSI's then that will be the best.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yousendit doesn't work right now. any other upload suggestions? i can only contribute three items. the laurie anderson song, the buzzcocks song and the three beatles songs.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

here is come together.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope you enjoy writing lists cos I think that was meant for Lex not you :(

yes, completely. sorry if that wasn't clear!

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Big Stick - Drag Racing:

http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TN4P4ZNJ3M2I20WFYZP2WM42Q

everything, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

no that wasn't clear at all!

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

buzzcocks - ever fallen in love

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

the beatles - octopus's garden

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

boards of canada - aquarius (but please get their new one. it's astounding.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

the beatles - something

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

laurie anderson - o superman. that's all i can do for you in this thread.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SINJZAXOW5N92DBCZFHRN8IK6
Bafflin Smoke Signals - Lee Perry

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

everything posted to this thread so far, minus the Beatles tracks:
http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J7PE5VKGIFND0DN0W7ORXNTKQ

patita (patita), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

what is that, patita? nothing to add? just subtracting? that's poor.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Enjoying these MP3s hugely. Heard a few of them but some are entirely new to me. Absolutely wonderful stuff, not a duff track so far.

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

well, I'd put it together for myself with the couple of tracks I had already (dupes from here, unfortunately), also knowing that I have the Beatles on another machine. my intent was to make a playlist from these to listen to tonight. I then realized I might as well post the link here for others. sorry if that was bad form, I didn't intend to offend.

patita (patita), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

No, it's good form. Saves a load of extra clicking, and it also ups the number of available slots from Yousendit.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

(Also, YSI-ing major acts like the Beatles isn't perhaps such a great idea.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

A million thanks to everyone who's been YSI-ing these! I'd contribute myself, unfortunately everything I have from the list is on vinyl and I've no idea how to digitize it.

TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Funny thing:

If you ckick on a YSI link, do the biz, then click backarrow twice quickly, then forward arrow, you get back to the portion of thread you were looking at. If you click backarrow once, you just get left at the top of the thread.

Oh, and keep them coming obviously. I'll search out the White Stripes stuff, no-one with any Charlie Feathers?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Squirrels: Oz on 45
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PS3U81W3WY731PXZSZ5SOG7RG

(why do i get the feeling that i've spent 20+ years of my life recording what are effectively novelty records off peel's show?)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Because otherwise you'll never get to hear them again.

I got the Daisy Hill Puppy Farm's take on "Heart of Glass" (done in the Jesus and Mary chain style) purely because I happened to be taping the show, and got the contact address.

The 'yeehaa' version of "Pretty Vacant" I heared once, but never traced down, until I got JP's FabricLive CD.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I found some Charlie Feathers last night - sounded good. If I find time this evening (questionable as I'm out to see Mark Thomas & Rob Newman, yay Political Comedy!), I'll sort something out.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(have just been through my lists of stuff he's played in the last couple of years and there are about 10 others that haven't been posted yet that i have (no Charlie Feathers though). this may take a while...)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Party of Special Things to do (for youse)
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RT6OEX1SNEVC3RF9NTYNGV8T5

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ashtray Heart
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RLLCMEG0JG2T1L53LHR9W6VQT

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

And finally, off the Beefheart Tribute single:
China Pig.
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2I7HJ62MVXOTH1ZJP5Q88BCTL2

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Hotel Yorba:
http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0B01WT6GC66O62DITKKNIJ80Y9

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Lord send me an angel
http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KQP8FTO6GOKH03FCQED2NE272

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the deal with Dreamland Express? Any leads on whether it's real or just a total mystery?

everything, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link

I found a gig flyer with Fairport Convention and Dreamland Express, but more than that, no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

...which also had John Peel on the bill, right?

everything, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

http://www.marmalade-skies.co.uk/middleearth3sep67.jpg

everything, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

One of these days, I'll get Tom Ravenscroft back on the case...

Mark G, Saturday, 6 July 2019 12:31 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Hi all,
My Covid lockdown project has been John Peel's record box. I've come pretty close to getting them all. I need I'm not Drinking More - Al Ferrier and Ticky Dopies/ I Saluti - Sipho Bhengu, and , of course, Dreamland Express - I think I saw somewhere that John Peel may have played the Dreamland Express tunes on his show. Is that true? Mark G, I see from a post about 5 years ago that you got hold of the Sipho Bhengu. I would dearly love to have copies of these tracks (and the rest of the Thala Thala compilation album)

If Mark G or anyone else can help me with these last few tunes that would be great. Does anyone else need any from the list?

Alexrob, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

Just sent you a Webmail with a link to the Al Ferrier song.

city worker, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

And..

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

city worker - thank you so much. I had kind of resigned myself to failure, or at the very least a long long wait to find that. Do you have any gaps in your collection? Who knows, I moght have something you're after. You're welocme to any music I have.

Alexrob, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

Mark G, Hi. Did you send a weblink as well? It hasn't come through to me....
I have to say, I'm amazed and delighted to get these responses.

Alexrob, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

Hi,

Not as yet, but.

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Listening to Peel's intro to a 1973 Be Bop Deluxe session and it's striking how different his on-air voice is from later years. He's even more lugubrious and deep-voiced in 1973. Anyone know if the change was intentional or just something that gradually happened?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

He definitely tried his hardest to distance himself from his fluty-voiced public school hippy persona of the late 60s, I didn't know he was doing it as early as '73 though.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

I think Marc Bolan broke his hippy heart tbh.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

coulda been bowie

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

I have a theory that when he was in the process of trying to lose his hippy trappings he based a lot of his vocal mannerisms on John Walters, his producer, they could sound very similar.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link


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