STEVE ALBINI

In a way yeah he seems more like an engineer, someone who knows how to get a good sound and use the right mics. He says thats lots of times producers are responsible for you know, hiring a saxophone or crafting the arrangement or basically co-writing the song as recording. On Surfer he suggested a tempo change and pushed for the in-studio sounds ("You effing die!") but you get the sense he thinks of his job as simply getting the best sonic representation of a song/band. This is why he doesn't take royalties, I'm sure with his work ethic, if he was laying down synth patterns and extra instruments and stuff, he'd want credit.

The difference is between scaled-down multi-track analog and like a far more expensive 24-channel digital system. If you can't tell the difference then I'd say he did a pretty terrific job!

it also matters a lot who mixes the record and who they're answering to/who they feel their obligation is to (label vs. artist vs. themselves vs. idk "posterity" or something) -- mix is 1) an entirely different discipline from recording/engineering and 2) absolutely as important as the recording itself. I don't know who mixed those Pixies records but that'd be where I'd look most for differences.

surfer rosa was all albini. doolittle was a gil norton production but some other dude mixed it

http://thequietus.com/articles/13250-steve-albini-interview-rapeman-shellac

The most amazing thing is that he says he tried to get Bill Withers to play ATP...BILL WITHERS!!...The guy has gone up a billion fold in my estimations...just too bizarre...my mind has been blown...

http://m.imgur.com/a/p0tKn

^^^Must read bit o' epistolary history.

I heard about Albini's admiration of Bill Withers several years back. It makes sense, with Withers' mostly stripped-down production (at least on early albums), his down-to-earth demeanor, posing for the covers with his lunchbox on break from work. There's also a great story in the James Brown book about how Brown was having a diva fit on a small plane on the way to the Rumble In The Jungle concert in Zaire, until Withers pulled a gigantic hunting knife on Brown to tell him to STFU. Badass!

his description of the overwrought nature of bad recording processes reminds me a little too painfully of a recording I made, where we somehow turned what we thought was great material into a mediocre record by (1) the engineer not really getting our live sound and (2) way too much drawn out tinkering and rejiggering

awesome letter. so much respect for albini, especially that last bit about the money.

https://twitter.com/beaunoise/status/383268011169181697

There's likely a bit of an underlying sales-tactic angle to all that though, don't you think?

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love the spirit of the letter, and many of the details, but who says a recording has to sound like a live band? there are so many other things a recording can be.

albini is such a joy to read, and a great dude all around.

I think albini's point is that if you're recording a rock band, it should sound like a rock band

also maybe it's the cynical in me but weird that this is circulating the week of the in utero reissue

uh, i think it's explicitly part of the promo (included in the box set)?

also <3 beau and his twitter.

the fugazi session he mentions was scrapped though, and, ironically, he kind of failed to make them sound like themselves. Everyone has their artistic failures I guess.

it should sound like a rock band

which sounds like what exactly?

There's likely a bit of an underlying sales-tactic angle to all that though, don't you think?

― Evan, Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:38 PM (55 minutes ago)

Not really as Kurt had approached Steve about recording the follow-up to Nevermind... not the other way around.

the fugazi session he mentions was scrapped though, and, ironically, he kind of failed to make them sound like themselves

Nah, they sound like themselves on it

Albini made good records in part because he had an approach that he believed in and stuck to. He talks about it dogmatically as though it is *the* approach, which it isn't, but the fact that he was so adamant about it made him a better engineer/producer imo.

This sounds like ass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBnDrIxjz8A

the drums are all pushed out and the guitars, which are what really drive the band, are kind of crushed

Yeah, they definitely didn't sound like that live. Weird choices on Albini's part. And arrg weird panning on the drum kit. Hate that.

Yeah it doesn't sound that different than the Kill Taker version to me.

Keep in mind those are DEMOS

sounds way different from Killtaker

i don't like the slint stuff with albini because it sounds too albini. and yet i don't mind the same albini touch on the breeders/pixies stuff. sometimes it works for me and sometmes it doesn't.

otm. Breeders' Pod is my favorite Albini production.

so how much did Nirvana paid him eventually?

since albini refuses to take points on albums he records, nirvana paid him by giving him several points on hole's live through this.

lol

he got paid like $100K iirc

SUCKER!

Didn't he say he went broke soon after though?

regardless

i think Surfer Rosa was one of his best works, and iirc he didn't like the record so much at first.

so i take with grain of salt his remark about the correlation between the quality of the result and the mood of the band.

Albini made good records in part because he had an approach that he believed in and stuck to. He talks about it dogmatically as though it is *the* approach, which it isn't, but the fact that he was so adamant about it made him a better engineer/producer imo.

feel like this is a real truth bomb about a certain kind of artist in general

he also knew how to choose good bands to work with most of the times..

Bush...

if he would've made a masterpiece with Backstreet Boys, he was now the truly the god of all producers lol

of course he is a great producer, but it's easier to be good with Jesus Lizard than with Bush

He would probably admit that!

i don't really care about notions of "good bands" and i don't think it's relevant to Albini's process - he worked with whoever he chose, whether that be for financial or aesthetic reasons

i always dreamed about a collaboration between SY and Albini. that could have been their last masterpiece..

i guess he fucked it with that Rapeman song..among other stuff..

true, i'm talking about the result
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The 18th Dye record sounds fantastic!

I imagine that letter being typed out live on a sturdy but analog typewriter with no edits and no click track.

lol

my faves would probably be pod, surfer rosa, goat, songs about fucking, rid of me. and the first shellac album. kinda glad he didn't do helmet's meantime and spiderland. oh and dial m for motherfucker. i like how that sounds. too far into the 90's and i probably didn't hear whatever he did.

I don't like how the jawbreaker record sounded but apparently during the recording process the console caught on fire so good excuse?

i'll add Man Or Astro Man, and some more i probably forgot..
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