i def remember being puzzled by this line: "the sheriff's after me for what I did to his daughter"
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a wiffle ball bat...sooooooo
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
I'm on the run the cops got my gun
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Roses are red the sky is blueI got my barrel at your neck so what the fuck you gonna doIt's just two wheels and me the wind in my eyesThe engine is the music and my nine's by my side
^^ think he was having a flashback to paul revere here
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
I think I got into gen x culture after the fact, but adopted it as my own. I think if you came of age/got into pop culture after Kurt died you technically count as Y. I got into Nirvana the day he died, so...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, that's actually a really good line of demarcation.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i think so too. kurt being the apotheosis/pieta of gen x culture.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
as time has passed my favorite songs on LTI are the stripped-down, beat-and-a-rhyme stuff: hold it now hit it, posse in effect, the new style, paul revere. my least favorite songs on the album have always been fight for yr right and no sleep til.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
rhymin and stealin is one of my all-time favorite album openers. it just hits like a ton of bricks
also: "pistol is loaded i shot betty crocker, deliver colonel sanders down to davy jones locker" = all-time
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
as time has passed my favorite songs on LTI are the stripped-down, beat-and-a-rhyme stuff... my least favorite songs on the album have always been fight for yr right and no sleep til.
it's all great. kerry king's guitar on "no sleep" is all-time. slayer!
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
also ppl complaining about the rapping on hello nasty are nuts, or maybe just don't appreciate the intricacy of their delivery. sure, it's old school licensed to ill style, but with all the bolts tightened and a deftness to match the rubbery shapeshifting tracks. tune in to 1:30 on "the move", where they round-robin the syllables of "insane mind games move quick like flame". is it because they make it sound so effortless that ppl dismiss it as facile? I dunno, maybe try getting 3 of yr buddies together to see which vocal routine you can work out first, "the move" or "professor booty".
and speaking of "the move", it's like a masterclass in sampling, there are dozens of perfectly interlocking rhythmic bits stitched together over its runtime. the more you pay attention to what's going on in that track, the more rewarding it is, but it also doesn't feel dense and overly engineered, there's a fluidity that allows you to forget all that and just be like aw cool bumping party track.
ps dogs love me cuz I'm crazy sniffable
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
and this, which is my favorite sequence on that song
I bet you never knew I got the ill peripheral In your home I'm cloned I'm on your headphones I love it when you spazz out all alone
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
"The Move" is all time.
Currently listening to LTI, might pick two from here in the end. But goddam this album is shrill.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
It isn't quite LTI style. It's a lot tighter. Less flamboyant, maybe. But from listening to those five albums over the last week, I think the quality of the lyrics is on par with the other albums.
― i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that last line is such a great example of a musician capturing and reflecting a listener's personal relationship to music, but it's so casual and tossed off, xp to VG
I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard the harpsichord break in "the move"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
am now realizing I left "the move" off my ballot
:(
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
I love it when you spazz out all alone
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:47 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that last line is such a great example of a musician capturing and reflecting a listener's personal relationship to music, but it's so casual and tossed off...
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:54 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is also, perhaps only cuz i'm forcing the point, a good concrete example of the change in attitude mentioned upthread. nasty shifts the implied relationship between artist and audience from from bro-cru group solidarity (on CYH and illco) to a one-on-one dynamic that's at once personal and universal. they're talking to a "you" that includes everyone, not so much the gang of us.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
didn't remember "The Move" at all. just listened to it - it's okay. after the first verse they do get into some more entertaining rhyme schemes but the track on the whole doesn't blow me away or anything
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
Edward III otm. I love the engineering and mixing on Hello Nasty.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
tell me how does it feel to be dead inside
xp
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
awesome
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Considered voting for "The Move" but didn't ultimately have room for more than two Hello Nasty tracks. Kinda wish I had put Hello Nasty at #2 on my albums ballot - it's certainly my favorite to listen to after Paul's Boutique, but Licensed to Ill is probably better song-for-song. I've never really loved LTI like I'm supposed to, though, which I think comes down to the thudding minimalism of the beats - it's brilliant and it results in a bunch of great tracks, but over the course of a full LP it gets wearying, for me and I suspect for a lot of people who came to rap in the 90s or later.
― do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that so many ppl on ILX live on that wide age 28 to age 35 grey zone/gulf between Gen X and Gen Y makes these conversations excruciating
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
I think they're kind of fun myself. Well, to a point.
― do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
you gonna do a ballot, whiney?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
i hope does it during one of his cali funk-metal 4EVA moods
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
I hope Whiney does it, i mean
my god I just heard "Namaste" for the first time in years. It's proto-Tricky!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
been listening to some paul's boutique demos. "full clout" is kind of amazing, an early version of "shake your rump" and apparently an indulgence of the dust bros' desire to strip their tracks down to make them suitable for rapping over. a big licensed to ill style beat dominates, it's like the missing link between the first and second album. and it's always weird to hear all the early alternate lyrics on something so ingrained. early "car thief" lyrics are hilar too, MCA: "my dick is a tree trunk"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:23 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, ilx's affection for 'generation' talk lately needs to run its course ASAP
― some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
^^^cosign
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
degenerations
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
generational observations ought to be posted with a youtube link to a song that the rest of us can enjoy during the ritual chin-stroking
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
may I suggest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRwhm-B6yNI
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAIOzM7SsMo
How about this one?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
blocked in my country, looks like I dodged a bullet there
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to say I didn't enjoy watching that.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
praise the gods
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
it wasn't morris minor and the majors, was it?
5 songs into TT5B and wow this is sucky.
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
'twas xp. I'm sorry.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
we had to perform that stupid stupid song in high school. ;_;
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
*counts years* that'd definitely make you a Gen Xer then?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's a pretty rough ride, but I will say a lot of those songs sounded way better on a live performance from some MTV show called $2 bill that aired when the album came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CwzDeIzlbM
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
still not heard anything on TT5B worth voting for. Hell, if you asked me to remember the last song I don't think I could do it. So generic. Such a drop-off.
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
ok the beat to An Open Letter to NYC is kinda fly.
I think crawlspace is the only decent track on there and it'd be 2nd tier on any other beasties alb
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
I cut that really late. Ch-Check It Out and Triple Trouble a little bit better.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
has no one done the obvious gen ilx yet?
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
generation lex
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link