^ yeah, i was kind of jealous of that one
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
And nobody wants to hear you cause your rhymes are Anne frantic
A+++++++++
now let's talk about how wrong it is to skip the sound of science
lol, yeah, descending order of nonsense
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
SOUND OF SCIENCE RULES
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
em eye cee kay to the dee, you come to see me and you pay a feedo what i do professionally, to tell the truth i am exactly what i want to be
^ has stuck in my head for decades, dunno why
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
can I point out that in the sound of science they sample KRS-one, a toy that makes farm animal noises, and the f'kn beatles
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ponce De Leon constantly onThe fountain of youth not Robotron
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
the dregs of the earth and the eggs that I eat got pegs through my hands and one through my feet
^ one of my favorite rhymes in rap history
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mean how much weed did he have to smoke to formulate such an elegant construction
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
COS I'VE BEEN DROPPING THE NEW SCIENCE AND IVE BEEN KICKING THE NEW KUH-NOWLEDGEAN MC TO A DEGREE THAT YOU CANT GET IN COLLEGE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
otm
otoh:
went berserk and worked and explodedshe woke up in the morning and her face was coated
the cornucopia of life's flavors
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
dregs & eggs is all-time tho
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
SO PISSED that outloud is down atm, as i would love to continue this discussion in the proper musical context :(
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
pegs line is really what gets me, best christ imagery from a jewish guy since "white christmas"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
does this help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNmLMs7ugw
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
eh, not really, cuz i've got it on phones already. really likef the "everybody adds tunes while we chat" thing.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
The guitar(?) sound on Stand Together is fucking rad and abrasive, almost Albini-esque. Also, MCA was ON FUCKING FIRE in that one.
yeah, it's guitar, at least sometimes (kicking in at about 1:00). never would have occurred to me to call it "albini-esque", but yeah, i get you. also OTM.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
Excuse me young lady I don't mean ta troubleyaBut you're looking so mighty fine inside your bee em doubleya
:)
I love 3 Minute Rule but alas, I could not find room to vote for it
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
so I am really having a difficult time narrowing this down to 20 tracks, & being actually honest w/ myself abt it, w/o basically stocking my ballot front to back w/ 80s/90s-era singles and obv album tracks. I really want to rep for some deep cuts and one-offs here, b/c there is a treasure trove to be had, for sure, but there's no way their biggest jams don't basically own this poll hands-down.
― fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:53 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA5-t5wOXaE
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry to get you guys all bothered with my opinion about the 5 of 23 tracks on Paul's that I don't like. FTR, the three Paul's tracks I had on my ballot were
3-minute RuleLooking Down the BarrelandCar Thief
But that doesn't mean that cutting a lot of these tracks wasn't super difficult. I would have definitely voted for "Stop That Train" if B-Boy Bouillabaise hadn't been included as one long track. I guess I have my own personal hang-ups about Shadrach though.
Also, love that Stand Together - secret weapon track on CYH - is getting talked up. Hope it shows up in the results!
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
Ballot breakdown:
Lti - 1Pb - 4Cyh - 5Ic - 4Hn - 3Tt5b - 1Hscp2 - 1Other - 1
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link
I was on a beastie boys listserv just prior to hello nasty, that thing fucking exploded when the album dropped.
EIII! me and stevie too!
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
I hadn't heard To The 5 Boroughs before. I really like it, but it's not getting much love here.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't listened to it since the day it came out, when I listened to it twice and then traded it in for something else. I would totally be open to re-examining it, but I wouldn't rebuy it (like I just had to for all the bboys records I only had on cassette).
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
more on Hello Nasty talk:
My boss at work really broke it down, like, that's really the album that made Gen Y get on board. Dudes would have been a Gen X phenomenon otherwise. I really had it driven home at Bonnaroo (lol), 2009 when I rapped along to "Paul's Revere" and no one around me knew a word; but EVERYONE rapped along to "Intergalactic"
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
Bonus Beats: I'm so embarrassed too because, I was 9 when Paul's came out, and loved Hey Ladies, and would love to tell you all that I was too smart for the backlash. But my mom BOUGHT me the tape and I made her return it because I was going through a hardcore Christian phase and it had a Parental Advisory sticker :(
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
haw, at 11 I remember agonizing over whether or not to buy the number of the beast, then I was all like stop frontin there is no god
Sorry to get you guys all bothered with my opinion about the 5 of 23 tracks on Paul's that I don't like.
you voted for car thief so all is forgiven
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
o hai sic! do we have a listserv reunion thread
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
But my mom BOUGHT me the tape and I made her return it because I was going through a hardcore Christian phase and it had a Parental Advisory sticker :(
irl lol! So I'm guessing there was no hidden cache of NWA & 2 Live Crew cassettes in yr bedroom, then?
I recall watching a lot of television in the summer of 1989 (I was 12), when Hey Ladies & Me, Myself & I were both in heavy rotation on Yo! MTV Raps. I dug both tunes quit a bit, but I was pretty curious as to why rappers were turning into hippies all of a sudden. A little later on, when I first heard Shadrach, I was sold on Paul's Boutique, but I still didn't actually buy it until around the time Check Your Head came out.
― fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
My group of friends rediscovered Paul's around the time Ill Communication came out. I remember taking a bong load and being like "what is this album?" and when my friend told me I was like "wasn't this the one that was supposed to suck?"
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
Was there ever a 'rediscovery' of Paul's Boutique though? I mean in critical terms - I remember it having a reputation as commercial suicide up until they made it back to the big time with Sure Shot etc; but never the reputation as a bad album, as such.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno. I mean, this is just me from ages 10-15 in the Maryland suburbs.
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
Other 10 year olds were telling me not to bother.
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, when I started reading music press about 10 years ago (around and maybe a year or two before TT5B) Paul's Boutique was still kinda seen as... at least the one you'd buy last, if that makes sense.
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, it's reputation had definitely turned around before then.
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
I remember selling stacks of it at Sam Goody in like 1998.
― how's life, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Where was this? The VV-SPIN axis called it an uncommercial masterpiece from the get-go.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
xp Not how I remember it at all. In the mid-90s it was the benchmark record for DJ Shadow, Mo'Wax, Chemical Brothers, etc - the Chems even originally called themselves the Dust Brothers because of it. Maybe there was a difference between dance and indie circles.
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:57 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol british press
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
^ymmv, but I noticed a similar pattern (& from an admittedly similar perspective). ime there were a bunch of kids who gravitated immediately toward Check Your Head b/c, on the surface at least, it seemed tailor made for punk/skater/indie/whatev circles. In general, alot of those folks had written the BBs off as a novelty act after Licensed to Ill, had basically ignored or were unaware of Paul's Boutique, and then listened retroactively from CYH to (re)discover the merits of both albums.
― fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
*'a lot' - goddam i hate missing the space bar on that..
― fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
lol British press
The first time I can definitely-definitely remember it having a particular reputation was in the Melody Maker 'Unknown Pleasures' book (1995) where it was mentioned in the Tusk section as commercial-suicide-but-nevertheless-amazing-because-utterly-uncompromising albums.
Its other notoriety was as the album which indirectly ruined De La Soul Is Dead.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, what? Never heard of any De La beef.
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
PB definitely had big cult cache as the incredibly 'cool' BB album (even by their own standards) in the British music press in the mid-90s.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
The theory was that Paul's Boutique was so sample-heavy that it forced the labels to take control over this anarchy; De La Soul Is Dead was the next similar album to appear, but got shelved for aeons while they had to seek clearance for every beat.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
ha i was actually about to compare Paul's Boutique's slow turnaround from sophomore slump to arguably most revered album to De La Is Dead
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
xxp - I also seem to recall that, when Odelay became the toast of the town, there was a lot of buzz abt The Dust Brothers & thus a surge of renewed attention paid to PB - critically at least.
― fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:18 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/images/pictures/5mics540.jpg
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
i meant sophomore slump in commercial terms, obv both albums got good reviews right away
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link