altho i do deduce a few points for pronouncing "other" like "uhva" as if he was british
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
"adorn" is my most-listened to non-dawn richard (who is in her own league, obv) track this year by more than twice over
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
me too probably. i like most of the other stuff just fine but imo most of "all i want is you" > most of ADC
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
...alll >>>>>>>>> adorn >>> arch and point
― dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
there's always that bit in 'all' with him going "tee-tee tell em how to elevate" where it totally breaks the blippy springsteen vibe picturing him misreading his iphone lyrics
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it kinda works actually but still
I know it's a horrific epidemic, but "babies on crack" will never not be unintentionally funny. Any message track that wants to be taken seriously needs to recognize that
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
that opening line's resonance with "Be Thankful for What You Got" really throws me off every time. I assume it's intentional, but him singing "babies on crack" instead of "sunroof top" makes that phrase stick out even more.
― rob, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
this is from evan's ADC review
"arguably the most engaging singles run of any R&B album since Usher’s Confessions."
interesting position imo -- how do we feel about it? i may be inclined to agree w/ it, but that's a long time
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
i agree -- there are probably a couple albums with 3 hits as strong as All/Sure/Quickie, but might be cluttered up with a couple duds too
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
fav post-Confessions R&B singles campaigns: first Ne-Yo album, B'Day, Double Up, first 2 Keyshia Cole albums, BLACKsummers'night, first The-Dream album, first two John Legend albums, Emancipation of Mimi, second Ciara album
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
I was going to say Ne-Yo through Year of the Gentleman, Ciara, and Maxwell myself.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
but none of these guys has excited me like Miguel; I have no idea what shit this guy's gonna do next.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I should also point out that I don't particularly care for the Confessions period of Usher's career.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah 'love/hate', 'goodies' and 'emanicpation' were my first three thoughts, but i think i'd take the 'all i want is you' trio over mariah, and probably have it tied w/ ciara behind the-dream
'blacksummersnight' is an interesting pick too... i didn't think of it but "pretty wings" and "bad habits" are monsters... i like "fistful of tears" a lot but it doesn't seem on the level of those two
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
"when you're mad is good" but it's kind of a major dip in b/w "so sick" and "sexy love" imo (last of which is my favorite late 90s max martin song that max martin never wrote in the late 90s)
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love the album itself more than the singles per se, was just spitballing. "Fistful of Tears" came alive for me as a single, though.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
haha want to hear a song called "when you're mad is good"
excuse my sloppy quotations there
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
ha
i LOVE "when you're mad" and think "sexy love" is kind of eh personally
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
man it's weird that they only released two singles off 'rappa ternt sanga', that coulda been in the running imo
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
actually fuck i'd rate the YOTG singles over everything -- "closer" -> "miss independent" -> "mad" was the most exhilarating singles run i can remember... anytime you got in the car was like a race against time before you had to get out and maybe not hear whatever the big ne-yo song of the time was
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
yep
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i thought about 3rd ne-yo too after i posted. love the first two but was never real into the sneezing song.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
"Sexy Love" taught me to love "So Sick." "Because of You" was an even better use of the same template. The only thing that killed the run imo was whatever followed up "Because of You." I can't even remember it.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
"Do You," which yes, was awful.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
huh interesting, sh!p. I'd gladly read a defense of BOY, a worse album than even Libra Scale.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
"Can We Chill" and "Go On Girl" were admirable non-hits, though
wiki says his next album is called The R.E.D. album, which can't be right
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
BOY is actually the only album of his i haven't heard, at the time the singles just disappointed me too much
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
there was a whole thing recently about him announcing that and the game politely responding that he was okay with it
i'm kind of disappointed that he isn't running with the astoundingly bad original title: The Cracks In Mr. Perfect
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
Crack on My B.E.D.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
if i had to do a rough ranking of best three consecutive singles off a post-confessions r&b album i'd go w/
1 year of the gentleman2 love/hate3 goodies4 all i want is you5 blacksummersnight6 chris brown s/t7 basic instinct8 futuresex/love sounds9 thr33 ringz 10 konvicted
? i'm probably forgetting something tho
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
sorta fudging it i think cuz in some places i'm not necessarily counting the best three FIRST singles, but hey
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
I'd thrown in Marsha Ambrosius, although I prefer her album in toto.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
oh good call
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol had to throw in Basic Instinct huh smh
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
The Miguel singles were all great tracks in their own right, but they were also really effective at introducing this new singer; each one revealed a little bit more about his act and persona. Really smart campaign.
So for me it's neck and neck between AIWISY and YOTG, with Goodies and BlackSUMMERSnight a bit behind. Those Ne-Yo singles were just so damn good; that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement
― Evan R, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement
yes
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
was that the name of a dipset compilation?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
it really bums me out btw that "Girls Like You" was kind of an afterthought 4th single that got lost in the shuffle of the Art Dealer Chic stuff coming out around the same time, that song is fucking awesome.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
any of the 'art dealer' stuff getting a sniff at radio or any promotion whatsoever? just curious mostly, but it seems like something miguel has been doing on his own
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
afaict no, although MTV Jams does play the "Adorn" video
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder how he's going to present his sexuality, which is ambivalent at best.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
uh have you seen the "quickie" video?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
yep and I've read a few of his press clippings
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
so he's not a girl-crazy horndog in his press clippings i take it?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
The "Arch N Press" video was what got me thinking: his combination of tuffness and feyness, the art direction, the way he presented the ladies.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
isn't that every R&B star and half the rappers out these days though?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link