Acts that are not on Spotify

Seger

Sugar (and only the Warners Husker stuff.)

None of Def Leppard's popular albums are on there.

i'm not on spotify

only the Warners Husker stuff

No longer true!

That was fast.

Alright, who on this board is from SST?

Sugar's stuff is on there, or at least it was about five days ago. I listened to Copper Blue.

gimme some good news about Seger, guys

It looks like Bureau B, which did a lot of the Sky Krautrock reissues, pulled the rights in the US.

Sandie Shaw. oddly.

King Crimson! Also, more Pink Floyd than a current live album, ffs!

Mainly, there's a Jex Thoth song called "The Banishment" and its melody is almost exactly like the melody line of "Epitaph" but I couldn't cross-compare - at least not in spotify.

A bunch of Peter Gabriel there now

Yellow Magic Orchestra

I just looked and there were only a few odds and sods from Gabriel, certainly no albums.

Kinks seem to be on, plentifully (including Something Else)

King Crimson!

Fripp has determinedly set his face against spotify, the diary on his website has plenty of back-and-forth on this topic.

One album that is on there is "From Good to Great", a tutorial CD by Robt Fripp

No Something Else in US :(

Royal Trux

I just looked and there were only a few odds and sods from Gabriel, certainly no albums

That's weird--I can see all of them (in Australia, anyway)

Boards of Canada
Throbbing Gristle
Severed Heads

all pretty much absent

Only Gabriel that's on Spotify US is that live/orchestra thing from recently.

Greg Kihn.

Royal Trux
No Drag City at all.

Right, no Bob Seger. So I went out and bought the CDs because Spotify makes me want to own everything.

If you aren't buying Seger on LP (and 45, actually) you are missing some of his best stuff!

"Mary Lou Mary Lou she took my diamond ring..."

I had the Seger 45s as a kid. I loved "Against the Wind" and "Still the Same". How they would sound today, I don't know.

Did you have "2+2=?" "Heavy Music" and "East Side Story" though?

No.

More eighties bands. I wanted to hear "Real Life" for example.

yeah still no Gabriel proper in the UK.

Pain in the ass. I just watched that "Classic Albums" thing on So and wanted to listen to it. Ugh, not on spotify. I actually had to go dig around my hard drive for mp3s! Felt like the stone ages.

That's totally how I feel when stuff isn't on there. I've often wondered if the Spotify's of the world will move from a flat fee pricing structure to one based more on usage -- ie, where my wife would pay a lower fee for her account but I pay more because I listen more. That would still work out for me -- I mean, $120/yr. is chump change compared to what I used to pay for records.

Along the same lines, I wonder if higher demand artists will end up basically end up getting a higher royalty per listen than others as these models develop.

I wonder if higher demand artists will end up basically end up getting a higher royalty per listen

I might be wrong but I think that's basically what's happening now. Or at least on a per-record-label basis. Not sure about per-artist.

I think that's the case already, isn't it? That major labels are getting higher payouts? I suppose it's justified in theory by the fact that Spotify gets more plays per labor hour (just with uploading and whatever else they need to do) compared with smaller labels.

xp

But it must still not be more than they get w CD sales -- otherwise, Gabriel/Pink Floyd/etc. would already be doing it, right?

I might be wrong but I think that's basically what's happening now. Or at least on a per-record-label basis. Not sure about per-artist.

the problem is that Spotify won't be able to sustain their business model if they have to start actually paying artists

xp i feel you Johnny; that's exactly what stoked my interest. really great doc that.

There are only 3 Shalamar tracks up:(

Shalamar is the bomb. I am thinking of getting premium soon, but would fork over even more if I could have better selection plus less re-recorded crap.

I upgraded to whatever the ad-free status is a while back and haven't regretted it. Thinking of stepping up to the one that allows mobile device streaming because I just got an iphone. Road trips will no longer involve burning a lot of mp3 cds!

Shakey, they have like almost everything already so I don't get "not going to be able to sustain it."

Loads of Shalamar in the UK...

Frank Zappa

Really wishing he had ANYTHING on there right now.

selecter's 'celebrate the bullet' is not on spotify to my annoyance right now

I was wondering if the Zappa catalog coming out on Universal would mean it would end up on Spotify too.

^^ Exactly what I'm hoping.

Would be nice, but I suspect that the Zappa family will never let that happen

Massive Attack just removed their music, I think.

Massive Attack is on Qobuz still. MBV largely unavailable too except for the aforementioned records.

They have xp

Still there atm but will be disappearing soon

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/18/massive-attack-remove-music-from-spotify-to-protest-ceo-daniel-eks-investment-in-ai-military

this latest reason to protest spotify seems a bit naive to me. are bands that are against european military investment like, dimly aware of the ukraine war and just think it’s fine?

i get that it might be better for ek to step down and not make spotify seem tied to a military company when it really isn’t, but it seems inevitable that china will want to sell cutting edge drone crap to russia and russia will want to test it in lithuania or moldova.

i’m all for bands holding out for more money from streaming services but this argument just feels oblivious to the current world.

It's a really simple argument - they pay less than basically any other streaming service, they support AI and other ways to screw artists, and their CEO invests in killing people.

I recently moved to Tidal. If they start investing in autonomous weapons, I'll find another service or just play records (which is 75% of my listening anyway).

yep i hear you. royalties, ai elevator music. so do you see news about ukraine and think, “good for russia, wonder what they will do next”

None of the streaming services has ever been able to to agorithmically create a curated "based on your interests" playlist better than some good DJs at a freeform community radio station. Streaming for me is 99.9% for playing albums; if I want a mix, I turn on WFMU, WREK, XRAY-FM, etc. A little bit of familiar, a lot of new.

I wish there was more Homer and Jethro on the streamers. Everything I’ve heard by them has been really brilliant and hilarious.

Yes, they are awesome!

Outside of the big names, Old-Time Country is pretty poorly served on streamers-lots of missing recordings and inferior rerecords.

yup

George Jones in streaming is a chaotic mess

I notice that Henry Cow’s albums have disappeared.

Recently subscribed to Qobuz and am happy to be able to easily listen to Joanna Newsom again. Bummed that there is still no sign of Curve anywhere (but Bandcamp), though.

Back in September Massive Attack made a big stink and said they were removing their music from Spotify. But here we are a few months later and ... it's still there. Anyone know what's up? Everyone else that made similar statements of protest had their music more or less vanish with the flip of a switch.

Yeah, I was wondering the same. I'm not complaining though as I listen to a lot of their stuff at this time of year

They did post (last month) about a lot of new music coming next year and specifically said it won't be released on Spotify so perhaps they've run into problems getting their existing catalogue removed

Has R. Fripp ever commented on why the League of Gentlemen (1980 band) aren't available on streaming platforms?

Just saw on Reddit that the Travelling Wilburys has been removed from most streaming services, although for the time being Spotify still has 7 different songs up that are on curated playlists.

boo

counterpoint: yay

BOO!

(boo that they're gone from all, not just Spotify)