The new Brandy single is beyond awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uHCVaVZfQ4
― Evan R, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
love it!
― tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
That is brilliant, even with Chris Brown.
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:12 (twelve years ago) link
either this thread or You forgot how incredible SWV were... needs more people talking about the great new SWV album
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Saturday, 28 April 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
New Jessie Ware is very pretty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblGD5yuid8&feature=player_embedded
― Tim F, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Produced by Julio Bashmore too! Didn't really see that coming but it makes perfect sense.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
really feeling the new usher single - between this and "climax" it's boding v well for his album
http://soundcloud.com/usher-raymond-music/lemme-see-feat-rick-ross
sparse and minimal blah blah but it sounds HUGE too
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
ha for a sec i thoguht you were going to say you were feeling the max martin-produced "scream"
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
oh no i didn't know about that :(
i take back my positive prediction
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
oh dear i just noticed the trayvon martin reference o_0
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
I hope this post-F.A.M.E. bifurcation of R&B album singles into "pop" and "urban" subsets isn't a lasting trend; it's just so shameless
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
it's here to stay, at least for the artists who are big enough to shoot for the pop market
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just gonna dream of the early 2000s, when a great song could play in both formats without pandering to either. Better times.
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it's really tasteless, but still better than Childish Gambino's Trayvonsploitation hashtag from hell
― some dude, Monday, April 30, 2012 1:43 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol me 2
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, April 30, 2012 10:55 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pre-dates FAME but for sure this is the worst thing to happen to pop in the past five years, even worse than everything sounding like gay club tourism music or rap songs with white people singing
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
Part of the magic of "Climax," I think, is that it bucks this trend. It sounds amazing on both pop and urban stations, and that hasn't been true of an Usher single in ages
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
"gay club tourism music" is my favourite descriptor ever.
less gay club tourism music, more gay 90s house music is my new mantra.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
rap songs with white people singing
ha, never really thought about it, but this is another great example of the marginalization of R&B. Scabs like Skylar Grey and Matthew Santos are stealing all the prime guest spots
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
can we count bruno mars as white for this exercise?
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
he's not white?
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
wait, Bruno Mars and Matthew Santos aren't the same person?
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
which one was in Coldplay then?
bruno maris is puerto rican/fillipino
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm well aware of that.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, April 30, 2012 8:30 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's barely on pop stations, in america anyway
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah, I've not once heard this on my pop station, though I've never heard it on my hip-hop/R&B station either. I've heard "Without You" and "Scream" on the latter, but it plays so much pop that they don't stand out.
― scarfs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
"Climax" is on r&b stations a ton. i will challop and say i prefer "Without You" though (or for that matter, "Papers").
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
"without you" is one of the biggest shitsacks ever
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
there are plenty of usher singles that are better than "climax" but none of them have been released post-confessions era
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeah srsly man that is a remarkably horrible opinion even for you
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
climax is mad wack idgi
and so is this new song
there's better shit on both here i stand and raymond v. raymond
"IMO"
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
i like "climax" but ursh had put out plenty of singles post-confessions that are its equal, at least
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, April 30, 2012 6:20 PM Bookmark
sorry for not sticking up for "omg" and "moving mountains"
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
not you dumbass
i like climax a lot but yeah ok i wouldnt say its miles and miles ahead of some rvr stuff
however 'without you' sucks and here i stand was wall 2 wall interminable garbage iirc
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
why do you all hate "moving mountains"
it is NOT a bad song!
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
first couple times i heard "Without You" i thought it was Mario, still really think he sounds more like Mario than Usher on that song. it's a good vocal, though.
"Trading Places" is prob my favorite post-Fesh era single, no Teriustan
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
an "xp" goes a long ways, rtc
tbh i prefer the funkystepz remix of "climax" to the of but then again i would
"moving mountains" is kind of amazing and epic (esp with that video!) but not in a good way. i will here i stand up for "trading places" just cause of lol lyrics tho
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
hot toddie, papers, omg, there goes my baby, love in this club, dj got us falling in love, love in this club pt II <-- all songs i more or less enjoy as much as "climax"
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
He's made better singles than "Climax" but I'm a sucker for this kind of production and singing.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
and, yeah, "Climax" has had no pop exposure down here at all.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
saying that usher has made better singles than "climax" may be the greatest understatement i've ever read on ilx
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
understatement's not a virtue for which ILX is famous.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
haha rev his "yeah" was clearly kind of piggybacking off your post to also respond to me, don't blame him that you didn't read the post right
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
I pretty much view it in the same lineage (and inferior to) "u got it bad" and "burn" but with more production frippery that doesn't really add to the song. which is a better look for him than anything else he's done in the past five years, mind you.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i read from where i had it bookmarked and ended up looking like a dummy. my bad.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
I disagree on the frippery. The arrangement and singing is thought-through. I suppose it's not much different from "There Goes My Baby," which I dig too.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
bad/burn/papers are are most comically transparent in being rewrites of each other but i don't really hear climax as being in that tradition
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
"Papers" is the gold standard of post-Confessions Usher singles imo, but that's because it's the only one that strikes me as genuinely sad
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
What I do find encouraging about the new Usher singles, though, is that they've really put the emphasis on his voice again. After the Versus era dude is really flaunting his range
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link