Loveless Remaster Actually Sound Better?

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Have any popular beat combos been mentioning Loveless as an influence again?

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:06 (fourteen years ago)

Pretty sure the Loveless LP is the official currency on the Isle of Man now.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

there is a full page advert in the latest mojo for the 3 cds which suggests that this is actually going to happen.

could be time to wave ta ra to your £50 notenough.

mark e, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

(5 cds - two are doubles)

koogs, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

Confused about US releases - Amazon's listing an import for like $68, released June 5th. I can't imagine there aren't plans to release these in the States.

Brakhage, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

OK, well you can listen to the track previews on Amazon now it seems. You can't tell much from the low bitrates on Loveless, but there are clips of the unreleased tracks on the EP:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EPs-1988-My-Bloody-Valentine/dp/B006VP1OYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335285943&sr=8-1

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

What are the last four tracks on disc 2 originally from?

Evan, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

3 are "new", sugar was on a 7" with something?

http://spoiledmetropolis.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/mbv-sugar-mp3.html says:

"Sugar" is an outtake from the Glider ep sessions. Its only official appearance was on a free cd given away with French magazine "Les Inrockuptibles" in 1991.

koogs, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

"new"... unreleased then? Neato, Angel sounds nice, found it in full no youtube

Evan, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

I have "Sugar" it came on a flexidisc with "The Catalogue" magazine

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

ugh this remastering sounds awful

*throws headphones down and tosses cd in the garbage*

am0n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

lool

the sunno)))boys (electricsound), Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

The inevitable end to this sorry saga.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:06 (fourteen years ago)

Loveless needs to be remixed, not remastered. Vocals need to be mixed way higher.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

you might try the analogue version.

Or the 'japancakes' cover

Mark G, Saturday, 28 April 2012 11:41 (fourteen years ago)

Or a different band

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:13 (fourteen years ago)

A remix would be good, but I'd keep the vocals the same, just give the rhythm section more beef.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:54 (fourteen years ago)

Now available to stream at the grauniad

sktsh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:51 (fourteen years ago)

Arrived with us today, so they're really real at least...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/533470_299683613441004_113107498765284_664585_465102167_n.jpg

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

listening now

no better way to judge a remastering job than listening to an audio stream on my work computer!

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

i think this sounds good? i haven't listened to the CD in ages tho

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

funny that shields is so down on that plain records vinyl release from way back when -- i had a friend who raved about how awesome it sounded.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

funny that shields is so down on that plain records vinyl release from way back when -- i had a friend who raved about how awesome it sounded.

Plain got a shit-storm of criticism on the Spiritualized boards about their handling of recent vinyl reissues of the first 3 Spz albums since their m.o. is to just take an off-the-shelf CD and use that for a master. I would avoid anything that company releases.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:00 (fourteen years ago)

Shields says not only did they use a commercial CD as the master, that it was also functionally a bootleg, to the degree he was able to get it blocked from sale in the UK

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

http://https%3A//p.twimg.com/AsSIP6lCEAEM7N4.jpg

I take it all back about them never existing. Half expecting the CDs to be mis-printed with audiobooks of Harry Potter, though.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/sickmouthy/status/199434090510946304/photo/1

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

I take it all back about them never existing. Half expecting the CDs to be mis-printed with audiobooks of Harry Potter, though.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, May 7, 2012 10:45 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, disappointingly low on printed word inserts though. Just some photographic stuff on the e.ps , not sure what came in Loveless. Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that. An explanation as to why there were 2 different versions of Loveless might have been interesting. Like you can find that online now but when these are discovered by the next generation or dug up as relics of our civilisation people won't find that referencing so easy.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:23 (fourteen years ago)

Especially when it's an Archaeological team from Blink 182 University.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:52 (fourteen years ago)

Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that.

wasn't one of the two-year delays because Kevin was working on the sleeve notes?

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

Seemingly not.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

well, these notes leaked out recently, not sure if they're legit
http://www.vinmag.com/online/media/gbu0/prodlg/RGC027-all-work-and-no-play-card.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

And, one more time for old times sake..

My Bloody Valentine

New Album
CD £11.00 Free Delivery

Release date: 07-011-2012

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:49 (fourteen years ago)

I have stolen your joke tylerw. I thought it rather witty.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:58 (fourteen years ago)

actually (this is true this time..)

My Bloody Valentine

Loveless: Remastered: 2cd

release date: 07-05-2012

currently out of stock

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:05 (fourteen years ago)

http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/mbv-loveless-2012-remasters.html

tl,dr: The new release has the discs swapped: disc one is supposed to be the digital remaster, and disc two from analog. They are labeled as so too. Except, a blatant manufacturing error - on all copies I've been made aware of - has the wrong labels on the discs. The new release has #1 labeled digital but with the analog master. #2 is labeled analog but has the digital master.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:07 (fourteen years ago)

(those aren't my words in the tl,dr)

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:08 (fourteen years ago)

Would be interested to compare, bitwise, the versions just released and those I got my hands on in 2008.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

Soon the original Loveless CD will be a treasured collector's item.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:24 (fourteen years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true, to a degree. What with being out of print for the last few years in anticipation of these remasters they have held a decent value whenever we have had them come in, either secondhand or as left over new stock.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:27 (fourteen years ago)

Congratulations on your mail order krakow... truly spreading the Meronian word.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:49 (fourteen years ago)

Kiitos paljon! Thanks very much! A project born of obsession and love...

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:12 (fourteen years ago)

Is that actually true about the mislabelling?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

I trust that dude, I have to say.

Maybe not all of them, I'll have to check mine (seems if one has a fuller fade out on "Soon", that's the analogue master)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

I think that guy is the guy behind the New Order/Joy Division/Smiths reissues that have been discussed here, I think he knows his stuff.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, exactly.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)

SO, will list to Loveless CD1 on the way home..

Funny, the e.p. set: First time I've seen a gatefold CD with absolutely nothing on the inside gatefold! (Open again, there's the e.p. covers)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

I've been reading similar things about the mislabeling on other sites. Can't say I'm surprised at how they bungled this but it does seem to be common with remasters nowadays.

skip, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

should start a thread re all these high profile remastering f*ck ups.

i recently picked up the special edition of the spandau ballet debut, and lo', that too is f*cked.

no bass at all. truly dreadful remastering.

then again, they did label the cds correctly.

mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

No bass at all?!? Like... no bass part whatsoever or just no bottom end?

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

no bottom end.

check the reviews : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journeys-Glory--Spec--Spandau-Ballet/dp/B0034GYAU8/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1336497581&sr=1-9

mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:20 (fourteen years ago)


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