Vinyl *press*
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
My vinyl on Plain looks like it's been going for around £40 on ebay - very odd. One went for £150! I don't understand.
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
Have any popular beat combos been mentioning Loveless as an influence again?
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure the Loveless LP is the official currency on the Isle of Man now.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
there is a full page advert in the latest mojo for the 3 cds which suggests that this is actually going to happen.
could be time to wave ta ra to your £50 notenough.
― mark e, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
(5 cds - two are doubles)
― koogs, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Confused about US releases - Amazon's listing an import for like $68, released June 5th. I can't imagine there aren't plans to release these in the States.
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
OK, well you can listen to the track previews on Amazon now it seems. You can't tell much from the low bitrates on Loveless, but there are clips of the unreleased tracks on the EP:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EPs-1988-My-Bloody-Valentine/dp/B006VP1OYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335285943&sr=8-1
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
What are the last four tracks on disc 2 originally from?
― Evan, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
3 are "new", sugar was on a 7" with something?
http://spoiledmetropolis.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/mbv-sugar-mp3.html says:
"Sugar" is an outtake from the Glider ep sessions. Its only official appearance was on a free cd given away with French magazine "Les Inrockuptibles" in 1991.
― koogs, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
"new"... unreleased then? Neato, Angel sounds nice, found it in full no youtube
― Evan, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
I have "Sugar" it came on a flexidisc with "The Catalogue" magazine
― Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
ugh this remastering sounds awful
*throws headphones down and tosses cd in the garbage*
― am0n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
lool
― the sunno)))boys (electricsound), Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
The inevitable end to this sorry saga.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:06 (twelve years ago) link
Loveless needs to be remixed, not remastered. Vocals need to be mixed way higher.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 28 April 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
you might try the analogue version.
Or the 'japancakes' cover
― Mark G, Saturday, 28 April 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link
Or a different band
― Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
A remix would be good, but I'd keep the vocals the same, just give the rhythm section more beef.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
Now available to stream at the grauniad
― sktsh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:51 (twelve years ago) link
Arrived with us today, so they're really real at least...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/533470_299683613441004_113107498765284_664585_465102167_n.jpg
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
listening now
no better way to judge a remastering job than listening to an audio stream on my work computer!
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
i think this sounds good? i haven't listened to the CD in ages tho
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
funny that shields is so down on that plain records vinyl release from way back when -- i had a friend who raved about how awesome it sounded.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Plain got a shit-storm of criticism on the Spiritualized boards about their handling of recent vinyl reissues of the first 3 Spz albums since their m.o. is to just take an off-the-shelf CD and use that for a master. I would avoid anything that company releases.
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
Shields says not only did they use a commercial CD as the master, that it was also functionally a bootleg, to the degree he was able to get it blocked from sale in the UK
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://https%3A//p.twimg.com/AsSIP6lCEAEM7N4.jpg
I take it all back about them never existing. Half expecting the CDs to be mis-printed with audiobooks of Harry Potter, though.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/sickmouthy/status/199434090510946304/photo/1
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, May 7, 2012 10:45 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, disappointingly low on printed word inserts though. Just some photographic stuff on the e.ps , not sure what came in Loveless. Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that. An explanation as to why there were 2 different versions of Loveless might have been interesting. Like you can find that online now but when these are discovered by the next generation or dug up as relics of our civilisation people won't find that referencing so easy.
― Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
Especially when it's an Archaeological team from Blink 182 University.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that.
wasn't one of the two-year delays because Kevin was working on the sleeve notes?
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
Seemingly not.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
well, these notes leaked out recently, not sure if they're legithttp://www.vinmag.com/online/media/gbu0/prodlg/RGC027-all-work-and-no-play-card.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
And, one more time for old times sake..
My Bloody ValentineNew AlbumCD £11.00 Free DeliveryRelease date: 07-011-2012
New AlbumCD £11.00 Free Delivery
Release date: 07-011-2012
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
I have stolen your joke tylerw. I thought it rather witty.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
actually (this is true this time..)
My Bloody ValentineLoveless: Remastered: 2cdrelease date: 07-05-2012currently out of stock
My Bloody Valentine
Loveless: Remastered: 2cd
release date: 07-05-2012
currently out of stock
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/mbv-loveless-2012-remasters.html
tl,dr: The new release has the discs swapped: disc one is supposed to be the digital remaster, and disc two from analog. They are labeled as so too. Except, a blatant manufacturing error - on all copies I've been made aware of - has the wrong labels on the discs. The new release has #1 labeled digital but with the analog master. #2 is labeled analog but has the digital master.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link
(those aren't my words in the tl,dr)
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
Would be interested to compare, bitwise, the versions just released and those I got my hands on in 2008.
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
Soon the original Loveless CD will be a treasured collector's item.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if that is true, to a degree. What with being out of print for the last few years in anticipation of these remasters they have held a decent value whenever we have had them come in, either secondhand or as left over new stock.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:27 (twelve years ago) link
Congratulations on your mail order krakow... truly spreading the Meronian word.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
Kiitos paljon! Thanks very much! A project born of obsession and love...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
Is that actually true about the mislabelling?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
I trust that dude, I have to say.
Maybe not all of them, I'll have to check mine (seems if one has a fuller fade out on "Soon", that's the analogue master)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think that guy is the guy behind the New Order/Joy Division/Smiths reissues that have been discussed here, I think he knows his stuff.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, exactly.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
SO, will list to Loveless CD1 on the way home..
Funny, the e.p. set: First time I've seen a gatefold CD with absolutely nothing on the inside gatefold! (Open again, there's the e.p. covers)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
I've been reading similar things about the mislabeling on other sites. Can't say I'm surprised at how they bungled this but it does seem to be common with remasters nowadays.
― skip, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
should start a thread re all these high profile remastering f*ck ups.
i recently picked up the special edition of the spandau ballet debut, and lo', that too is f*cked.
no bass at all. truly dreadful remastering.
then again, they did label the cds correctly.
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link