The Band - Music from Big Pink poll

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Wait, what's with that one? Rub her sole?

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

Seriously? Just literally a pun on rubber sole, like the bottom of a shoe. But of course it's Rubber Soul, which for whatever reason for the longest time I just figured was some surreal nonsense title.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

so close.

http://1.imimg.com/data/C/V/MY-704883/Rubber_Sole_Sheets_2_250x250.jpg

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

I bet it's a secret foot massage thing. When you think about the Kinky Boot Beasts in Yellow Submarine, it all starts to add up.

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

kinda hard for me not to be boring and vote the Weight tbh. never liked this version of Long Black Veil, pales next to Lefty's.

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

wait how is Chest Fever a pun exactly? idgi

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe pun is not the right word.

FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

I'm obviously some sort of crazy person because "The Weight" is probably my least favourite song on this album

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

It is a song about uncontrollable enthusiasm for chests.

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

I like "The Weight", but it wouldn't even come close to being the best song imo on this album. It does sorta just keep plodding along with a verse too many or so.

Didn't like it in "Easy Rider" either.

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

My man!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

Glad you two found each other.

Not a pun, but another form of wordplay

FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

i just listened to this album for the first time last week, it's pretty amazing.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe it's an "Only Nixon Could've Gone to China" type deal.

But one thing that's really stuck out in listening to The Band for the past week has been that coming from four Canadians, the American Gothic rings true. And Levon Helm, an American by birth and Southerner by the Grace of God, never sounds too maudlin about his roots.

What am I trying to say. --- I finally listened to Southern Rock Opera recently on Grooveshark. I've heard so much about this record and how awesome it is, that I decided to give it a shot while I was uploading cocktail photos to our online society magazine. Don't get me wrong, there's some strong ass guitar licks in there, but I get so tired of Southerners trying to be Southern. By the time, George Wallace was being welcomed into Hell by Satan, who offers him a glass of sweet tea, I realized that this was just another one of those items of culture from the South that plays too hard on being from the South. The Oxford American dances around this all the time. It's all former beauty pageant winners sitting in their ivy-colored antebellum mansions, sipping sweet tea and calling everyone "hon".

So the fact that Robbie Robertson is credited with writing "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down", barely 100 years after that war finished, is a landmark achievement. You want to talk about a song that could've "gone South" so easily? And it never does, not once.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial is another out-of-area band that accurately reclaims Southern soil. But even while Fogarty rarely gets a little transparent (you "hoid" it through the grapevine, eh?), I can't think of any instances where the Band steps out of line at all.

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

Southern Rock Opera is awesome. It's not just about the south, which it is partly about, by way of guys as southern as Helm, but about the history of rock and roll by way of the south, the way the mythology of music and location converge. "SRO" is about the south without being about the south. It's both southern rock opera and southern rock opera, about both Skynyrd and a band like Skynyrd, paralleling the misunderstanding of that group against the social complexities of the south with the misunderstanding of the south in general. Which is to say, it's complicated, a whole lot more complicated as an album than "Big Pink," which like you said, could have gone too far into the hokum but somehow gets it just right. "SRO" starts from a different hokey point of departure - the saving graces of butt rock - but goes a lot deeper than that.

By the way, here's Patterson Hood, but mostly his dad David, talking about Helm: http://www.timesdaily.com/stories/Local-musicians-Levon-Helm-was-coolest-man-alive,189731

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

so many classic jawns but only one vote :(

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

as a fanboy scum i want to vote for something other than "the weight" but that song will last for 1,000 years if humans are still here

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry to veer, but here's some clips of the Truckers and Megafaun doing a mini-set of the Band a few nights ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DuwObzg0GIw

This is a beyond respectable version of "The Weight."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Megafaun encored w/that at the Songs of the South deal a couple years back, they kill it. Brad (bearded guitarist) has a tattoo of the Band with all figures in solid ink except Robertson, who's an outline lol

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Great video

Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

Southern Rock Opera really runs the gamut from rocking and beautiful to embarassing and forgettable.

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

All part of the same portrait, in proud double album tradition.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

Would you say, perhaps, that it's part of its duality?

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

the duality of the double-album thaaaang

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Tried to listen to that just now, almost got as far as pplains, then put on Rock of Ages instead.

FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Not a fair fight, really, but give it another shot when you get the Band out of your system. Best stuff is on the second disc, though.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'm also getting hit with a bunch of invitations to crawfish boils, and dammit, those things are disgusting.

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

Best stuff is on the second disc, though.

Seconded. If anything Shut Up and Get On the Plane > Greenville to Baton Rouge > Angels and Fuselage.

fruitsbs (beachville), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

"Let There Be Rock,' "Women WIthout Whiskey," "Life in the Factory," "Plastic Flowers on the Highway" ... wow.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

First song here is more of a Rick number, I think, but that doesn't detract from this Levon tribute at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHDjGgGGXU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Stars on 45 Fell on Alabama (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:51 (fourteen years ago)

While we're here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42WnZxLYWrM

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry, fellow Mekons fans, here's a more palatable, er, palate cleanser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6lhX08hz8A

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:54 (fourteen years ago)

Can I just take this opportunity to say what a great bass player Rick Danko was

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:56 (fourteen years ago)

Dude was incredible. Here he is, being all around ... festive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_dkavLVcN0

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

He had a unique sound and style, played like he wanted you to think his bass was a tuba

Stars on 45 Fell on Alabama (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:31 (fourteen years ago)

It's incredible how much the law of diminishing returns kicks in. "Stage Fright" is pretty good, "Cahoots" has its moments. The rest are kind of erratic at best, which is pretty amazing, given the calibre of the players involved, but they all have their moments as well.

Yeah it might be about time that I gave Cahoots another chance. Most of their later work I've just skimmed through on spotify/youtube etc and not really returned to. I do have Stage Fright, but despite there being some excellent songs on there - Time To Kill, The Rumor, Shape I'm In - I don't often feel compelled to put it on (again esp in comparison to the first 2 albums).

Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Also re the Festival Express movie I think I actually prefer the (slightly jauntier) version of Long Black Veil on there to the album cut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMbVXYQpJV8
NB tho I'm not familiar with the og recording of LBV that Shakey alludes to upthread. Pretty amazing song still, the lyrics are sort of the perfect condensed story.

Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

worth getting familiar w/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc5p0-6uc_g

bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Seconded. If anything Shut Up and Get On the Plane > Greenville to Baton Rouge > Angels and Fuselage.

Absofuckinglutely.

pplains, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

that woodstock clip Bee OK posted is kind of scary. Or at least I imagine it must've been scary for the Band -- just blackness out there, but knowing there are like 300,000 people in the crowd.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

avoiding the obv 'chest fever' is really fukkn dope

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

oh man i take ppl's point I GUESS abt the slow steady decline in the band's songwriting/albs (after the peak of #2 imho) but some of the bonus/outtakes on the cd version of big pink point to the incredibly fecundity of their 'early' period - i mean, to leave off 'Katie's Been Gone', w/ another heartbreakingly gorgeous manuel vocal, is just criminal! and the fact that the only surviving version of Ferdinand the Imposter is v. sonically imperfect is a gddamm crime!

not enough for lonesome suzie on this thread, tho :-(

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

enough LOVE

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

It's one of those cases of "you have your whole life to make your first album and six months to make your second," I think. The Band had a huge backlog, and once they caught up with it it was a struggle to come up with new stuff on par with their peak (see also; Cheap Trick, Van Halen). If anything, the key to the evolution of, say, the Stones and Beatles is that they started with a bunch of covers and worked their way up from there. Plus, the Band stopped living together, in Big Pink or on the road, and according to Levon they had trouble recapturing that vibe when they tried to recreate it in L.A.

It's amazing, by way, how much of an impression the Band made on the Brits, with group after group trying to glom onto their shambling Americana vibe vibe. I mean, the Beatles and Eric Clapton are two of the last acts I think of what I think of the Band. but they were both uber-besoted.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

(sorry for the typos)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

otm about "ferdinand" -- always loved that little fragment and wish there was a better version!

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

this thread took off, i thought it was going to be like The Band poll and get no love.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:48 (fourteen years ago)

well, not no love but really there was not a lot of discussion like this thread has produced.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:49 (fourteen years ago)

ok finally voted. "in a station." there are obviously plenty of towering songs on this record, but right now, in a station is the one i want to hear on repeat. karen dalton's version is nice too.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

What about Rock of Ages?

The Great Atomic Power Ballad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 September 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)

stage fright is really great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 2 September 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)

way better than northern lights

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 2 September 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)

"Stage Fright" is pretty good - but still a step down from the first two.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 September 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)

What about /Rock of Ages/?


One of their best. For me, it’s up there with the first two records, and vastly superior to The Last Waltz.

Also, fun fact: apart from trumpeter Snooky Young, everyone in the Rock Of Ages horn section played with Cecil Taylor and/or Bill Dixon at one time or another.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 September 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)

"It Makes No Difference" is one of the greatest recordings.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)

The last waltz is kind of lame

brimstead, Sunday, 2 September 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)

moondog matinee kinda rules. i mean, i'd take a whole album of levon helm disco rockabilly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFE113iDx4

worst one is probably cahoots, but even that has some good stuff on it.

tylerw, Sunday, 2 September 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)

Great example of what happens when a band that plays and stays together almost 24/7 get their own places and lives and can never quite capture what they once had, good and great as they often still were.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 September 2018 22:09 (seven years ago)

Islands is probably worse than Cahoots, but then again it's an outtakes set and contractual obligation album (as pointed out by an extremely defensive Robertson in the reissue liners).

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 September 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)

I always thought "Northern Lights/Southern Cross" was a pretty good listen for the later LPs. The keyboards on the album are so lush, it's really well recorded.

earlnash, Sunday, 2 September 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)

NL/SC also has Ophelia which has an awesome New Orleans groove and an A+ Helm vocal

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Monday, 3 September 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

Listening to this album for the first time in a while. I can't believe how good the drums sound. I'm on "Chest Fever" now--these drums sound so incredible.

JRN, Thursday, 27 August 2020 05:57 (five years ago)

I just learned you can stay in the house:

https://www.vrbo.com/3970069ha

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 12:55 (five years ago)

cool!

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:01 (five years ago)

Note: the Basement is not included in the rental

That's the only bit I want to see :(

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:23 (five years ago)

Pssh, I'm there for the 4 bay toaster.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:40 (five years ago)

gonna have to go there and make some living room tapes, i guess

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 August 2020 14:13 (five years ago)

Just found this, a documentary released on VHS from 1995:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQn0QoQsqB8

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 August 2020 14:37 (five years ago)

five years pass...

I wanna go https://www.vrbo.com/3970069ha?vgdc=HAUS&preferlocale=true

Minty Gum (Latham Green), Thursday, 2 April 2026 18:08 (two months ago)

Lol, no photos of the basement.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 April 2026 11:36 (two months ago)

Nor the tapes, I gather

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 April 2026 12:11 (two months ago)

i've looked at that before on different sites, the owners always make a big point that the basement is NOT part of the rental, do NOT try to go into the basement, PLEASE stay out of the basement, lol

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 April 2026 14:55 (two months ago)

Hey daddy-o

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 April 2026 15:03 (two months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxT_0btLHJQ

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 April 2026 15:05 (two months ago)


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