nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

That sagittarius track nominated above is actually pittman and theo's track.

Rick wilhite – Drum Patterns & Memories (Moodymann Remix)
Moodymann - it's too late 4 u and me
Rick wilhite - get on up (theo parrish remix)
Helium robots - jarza (theo parrish translation 1)
Rhythm & sound - free for all (soundstream remix)

A lot of Theo and Moodymann tracks which I think of as 00s tracks, when i check all first came out in the late 90s.

this is such a depressing thread

why do you say that, lamp?

tim - i was wondering about that too, also even though i'm a huge fan i think it's easy to acknowledge that their 90s work fairly blows away their 00s work, though theo has been having a slight renaissance lately

it would be interesting to try to work with some sort of geometric mean system - that way a track that got a 20th place vote and a 30th place vote would average at 24.5 pts whereas a track that got two 25th place votes would average at 25 pts

we would then need to, uh, de-normalize the means by multiplying up by the number of votes

going to mall w/ gf to "shop for new jeans" (for her), will try to do the back of envelope calculation to see how this might play out while "we" shop for jeans

abe duque - what happened! how did i forget about this one

jacob sanders, what happened?

why do you say that, lamp?

idk just ppls lists so far itt, seems p joyless or s.thing, no sense of play or adventure just cataloging of xp deathless listmaking forever blah blah blah

i mean i love making lists of things it brings order and meaning but i guess well see how this turns out

yeah i agree w/ you that i'm not much enthused by the majority of noms but didn't feel it would be politic to point that out

Well if I nominated what I actually liked no one would vote for it.

50 dubstep tracks and a bunch of ultra obscure deep house is just going to add to that long tail.

Toasty Boy - Splash

Amira - My Desire (Bitasweet Remix)

which noms would make you less depressed lamp? i haven't seen you partic involved in bobbins/dance threads so i have no sense of your taste in this area

idk just ppls lists so far itt, seems p joyless or s.thing, no sense of play or adventure just cataloging of xp deathless listmaking forever blah blah blah

i mean i love making lists of things it brings order and meaning but i guess well see how this turns out

― Lamp, Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:51 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what do you mean? there's enough personal favorites and rather obscure tracks posted here. and the fun is when the voting begins anyway.

i don't think think this thread is boring at all, this will be my first poll like this to be a part of because the music meant a lot to me. looking forward to the final list to choose from cause i know i forgot a lot of tracks. lots of trapez and perlon i'm forgetting.

Margo – La Baumette (Broker/Dealer Rmx)

last one Geiger - Cocain-e

i wish morbius came in here and bitched about this poll like he did the movies polls that would be funny

man i havent heard cocain-e in forever

theo parrish - space station
$tinkworx - MKB
reggie dokes - chicago pimp
keith worthy - lost in sound
soundstream - motion
soundstream - good soul

Cleptomaniacs - All I Do (Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub)

Essential that one, can't believe I forgot it.

Herbert - Moving Like A Train (Smith N' Hack Remix)

I've been having a good time w/this or w/e because I've been able to dig out setlists from 06 house parties or mixtape tracklistings from 03 or primeval ILx threads about Areal from the two-three years where I only had internet access at netcafes or songs I remember from the two times someone from Kompakt came to NZ to DJ during that decade &c&c&c. Admittedly this isn't coming through by just listing tracks, but I figure once the nominations are sorted we can start advocating things.

Er I'm w/V4hid on the possibility of a geometric mean system or something as an alternative to the standard ILx vote weighting system, but I don't have a lot to contribute math-wise.

Henrik Scharz, Ame, Dixon - Where We At?

Herbert - Moving Like A Train (Smith N' Hack Remix)
aw man, how could i forget this. definite rump shaker if there ever was one.

Henrik Scharz, Ame, Dixon - Where We At?
dude, seriously :(

What, I like it?

Or at least I did like 2 years ago when I played it last.

I've been going through a transition between Europhile to American house head recently, maybe I wouldn't like it any more. Lot of FXHE records to listen to.

That's a mega huge track and you didn't think someone had posted it? No beef though, just find it funny.

Hey, I did a search even. I blame my crappy phone.

Anyway I'm banned from participating, ignore me.

That's a mega huge track and you didn't think someone had posted it?

Ha, this is exactly why this poll is going to be awesome (for me at least). I have a lot of favorite tracks in this genre, but there's so much I haven't heard (including said "mega huge track").

Its probably my favorite song of the last decade, it was posted in good faith and naivety.

i nominate all the grime

Re: scoring, there's nothing really wrong with the system used in the artists polls (40,36,33,30,28,26,24,22,20,19... or something like that) - you can start with biggish gaps between the top ten and then have much smaller gaps lower down. I would imagine that for most people your 18th and 19th placed tracks are pretty much interchangeable position-wise so there's no reason to have much of a points differential.

Lamp I don't know what level of excitement or insight you were expecting from a nominations thread, they tend to be just lists really. The fun bit starts with the campaigning and countdown.

As the first nomination poll on ILX I feel qualified to participate in, I'm excited! Though voting is going to be interesting - I was going over my top 50 list from February 2010 and there's definitely stuff that's probably wouldn't make a top 100 today. Also, I'm gonna have to be strategic, though.

Is there a deadline for this nominations thread? I don't keep lists and I don't have time to sift through boxes of vinyl at the moment.. but here's a few that I've picked out again recently;

Robag Wruhme - K.T.B. (Ruhig Brauner Remix By Daniel Paul And Zky)
DJ T - Philly
Son.sine - Upekah
Steffi - Sadness
Ron Basejam - For The People, By The People
Buttrich - Meeting Dave Dish

Clyde - Serve It Up! (Brooks HipHouse Mix)
Electric Press - EP1 (Track 3) (At least I'm pretty sure it's 3, it's the Erykah Badu - I Want You Remix/Edit)

hieroglyphic being - spheres of madness
luke vibert - porn shirtwee
kerrier district (luke vibert) - illogan
matias aguayo - bo jack
morphosis - musafir

deadline is may 1st

re: vote systems

i am a math hobbyist so i am just having fun with it

ok, a quick look at "limiting cases" reveals the geometric mean system to be a surprisingly terrible idea. it seems to work pretty well at rewarding consistency when the spread is not crazy.

but consider the following situation

track A receives three first place votes. using a normal point system, the geometric mean comes out to 50 points, and multiplying up by three gives us 150 points. you get the same result using the geometric mean system.

track B receives three first place and one fiftieth-place vote. this should give track B a tiny "edge" on track A, but instead the geometric mean comes out to about 18.8 which gives it about 75 points overall!!

i think the geometric mean system would work well if we did the sort of thing where we narrowed it down to the same 50 finalists and then *everybody* ranked those same 50 tracks, but the way the poll is set up right now it doesn't make sense at all.

Junior Senior - move your body
Jimmy Edgar - i wanna be you std

whirlpool productions - from disco to disco (original extended version) http://youtu.be/Z3IF0MrX6tw
modjo - lady (hear me tonight) http://youtu.be/j3V3n7zccMI
chicken lips - he not in http://youtu.be/vILJkUeUrcw
henrik schwartz - leave my head alone brain http://youtu.be/V_tkl2-fFDc
zongamin - serious trouble http://youtu.be/ckNCFiXj8sI
frankie valli - beggin' (pilooski edit) http://youtu.be/xAg_okIYEtg
lovebirds - modern stalking http://youtu.be/BbSbVK21AVM

Plus Device – Body heat
Boy 8-Bit – The suspense is killing me
Siriusmo – nights off

Pilooski is not eligible.

uh, why not?

not saying i necessarily disagree, but i think you should be giving reasons why rather than just flatly stating it.

like i understand that on the surface it seems like, ok, it's just an edit of a 50s doowop track or whatever, but then again i see on your list you nominated a mark e track which is itself just an edit and joakims remix of camino del sol and floating points vacuum boogie, both of which seem much less "dancey" than the "beggin" remix

and besides, the "beggin" remix was a club smash and conceptually not so different from, say, a lot of moodymann tracks

sorry, i missed all the discussion upthread about disco edits etc

personally i think it makes sense to include disco edits because 1) sort of a defining feature and major trend of 00s dance and 2) can't figure out a logically consistent place to draw a line between filter/loop disco house and edits.