josh one - contemplation (king britt funke remix)
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
idk, i kinda like the idea of this thread as a compendium of everything ilm thought worthy of consideration in the 00's, even if it is a little overboard in terms of actual options
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
i'm about 5 tracks in to listening to all of this thru and already i haven't got a fucking clue how to vote
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
i think there should only be 50 options and we each only get one vote
― Lamp, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
how to select the 50 options?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
promise to leave it be after this.
David Carretta - Vicious GameHanayo - Joe Le TaxiBlackstrobe - Chemical Sweet GirlMathew Jonson - DecompressionDJ Koze - Don't Feed the Cat6th Borough Project - Planets (The Revenge Lost Groove)6th Borough Project - Do it to the MaxEddie C - OrganizedTornado Wallace - Always TwirlingTornado Wallace - PaddlinCottam - 1 ABig Strick - 100% Hustler (Omar S Remix)DJ Bone - No Sleep (True To Da Roots)Andres - New For UKZA - Le Troublant AcidLe Knight Club - Cherie D'Amoure
― andrew m., Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
Luomo - What GoodLuomo - Really Don't MindKelley Polar - Here in the NightBooka Shade - Night ShadeSapporo 72 - Architecture of LoveStudio - West SideSupermayer - Please SunriseGui Boratto - No Turning BackMetro Area - Read My MindWhitest Boy Alive - Golden Cage (Fred Falke Remix)Royksopp - Poor LenoStudio - Life's a Beach!
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Saturday, 21 April 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
Riton - Hammer of Thor
― Jibe, Saturday, 21 April 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
Pogo - DigitalismPantha du Prince ft. Noah Lennox - Stick to My SideDeath from Above 1979 - Black History Month (Alan Braxe & Fred Falke Remix)Jose Gonzalez - Killing for Love (Todd Terje Brokeback Mix)Wallis Bird - Counting to Sleep (Reverso 68 Remix)Lykke Li - Little Bit (Loving Hand Remix)The Rapture - Sister Saviour (DFA Mix)Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For (Jacques LuCont's TWD Mix)
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Saturday, 21 April 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
fuck it
Labrinth feat. Tinie Tempah - Earthquake
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
Shit, meant
Digitalism - Pogo
obv.
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Saturday, 21 April 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
a few things from the last few years b/c i had lists readily accessible...
Teengirl Fantasy – Cheaters (John Talabot Classic Vocal Refix)Legowelt – Sark Island AcidMark E – Call Me (Dixon Edit)Steve Moore – Zero-Point FieldTucillo – Disco En ParadisoOliver $ - Doin’ Ya ThangItal – Culture ClubsRobag Wruhme - Thora VukkMano Le Tough – Let’s Not Talk About LoveSession Victim - Good IntentionsBubble Club – Violet Morning Moon (Dr. Dunks Remix)Kink & Neville Watson - Full FlightNoir & Haze – Around (Solomun Vox Mix)
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 21 April 2012 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
might be from this year but the pachanga boys things is epic enough to be considered here...
Pachanga Boys - TimeGesloten Cirkel - Yamagic
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 21 April 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
― Jibe
Ha, thanks for reminding me of the existence of
the Eternals - Wrath of Zeus
DJ Koze - Brutalga SquareJens Lekman - Sipping On The Sweet Nectar (Bogdan Irkük's Love Nectar Mix)Röyksopp - Remind Me (Someone Else's Radio Remix)
― etc, Saturday, 21 April 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
I guess 500 nominees are enough?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
per person? yeah, i'd say so
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 21 April 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
I think there should be 1,000 options and we each get 50 votes.
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 April 2012 07:44 (twelve years ago) link
capping noms seems counterintuitive, esp at this point in the process
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 21 April 2012 07:44 (twelve years ago) link
Antena - Camino del sol (Joakim remix)
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 April 2012 07:46 (twelve years ago) link
I also think we need a month between noms and voting to give people a chance to listen to things they haven't heard before
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 April 2012 07:52 (twelve years ago) link
The Chemical Brothers - It Began in AfrikaThe Chemical Brothers feat. Q-Tip - GalvanizeJuno Reactor - PistoleroScooter - Posse (I Need You On The Floor)Scooter - The Question Is What Is The Question?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 21 April 2012 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Seriously
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 09:27 (twelve years ago) link
The Horrorist - One Night In NYCThe Ones - FlawlessElena Gheorge - Disco RomancingTomcraft - Loneliness
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Saturday, 21 April 2012 09:52 (twelve years ago) link
Kassem mosse - workshop 03 a1Lowtec - workshop 06 a1
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:52 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't think loving a track for a week justify putting it as one of your top 10 or so tracks in 12 years.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
fuck me, it's the dance gestapo
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr)
What if the on heady week we loved it for was back in 2003 and we're having to refresh our dancefloor-damaged memories? All my vinyl is on the other side of the world and my portable hard drive's dead - it'll take a little while to piece together clues from old emails/messageboard posts/etc.
― etc, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
on = one, heh.
for example, it seems slight un-fair to me that 5 #10s has the same weight as 4 #1s, or that 5 #20s have the same weight as 3 #1s. i guess what i'm saying is that it seems to heavily favor the center of the distribution which might be why so many "middle of the road" choices place relatively high on certain poll threads.
there's also the option of going the arithmetic progression route but ramping up the common difference every ten or so places, for example 50-49-48 geting 1-2-3 pts, then 40-39-38 getting 11-13-15 pts, 30-29-28 getting 32-35-38 pts, etc... though in my experience the results usually aren't that much different than those gained with the standard '50th 1 pt, 1st 50 pts' procedure, and middle of the road picks inevitably prevail no matter what system you choose, especially if a large numble of people are involved (i guess the only properly anti-MOR system would be some sort of super-quirky/wacky version of the Village Voice model like, i dunno, distributing 1000 points to 10-50 tunes?)
my noms:
Afefe Iku - Mirror DanceAnimal Collective - Peacebone (Pantha Du Prince Remix)Axwell feat. Steve Edwards - Watch the SunriseDeadmau5 - Not ExactlyDubfire - RoadkillDuncan Powell - Something WrongFeist - My Moon My Man (Boys Noize Remix)Gadjo - So Many TimesGuy Gerber & Gregor Tresher - Open the GatesJunior Jack vs Neanderthal - Thrill Me AnimalJunior Jack - StupidiscoKaskade - 4AM (Adam K & Soha Remix)Los Hermanos - QuetzalMarkus Nikolai - Bushes (Norman Cook Mix)Martin Buttrich - HunterMartin Landsky - Let Me Dance (Sebo K Remix)Rework - You're So Just JustSebastien Leger & Chris Lake - WordSikk - My Washing Machine
― Mind Taker, Saturday, 21 April 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
@etc: fair enough. Doesn't have to be a month though
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 21 April 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
moka - any particular reason other than ruining the ILM "top 100 post-frankentrance tracks of the 10s" we're going poll eight years from now?
― the late great
Well, the poll title says tracks of the 00's. It irks me to include tracks from the past couple of years. Might as well add songs from 1999.
On an unrelated note, I was thinking that maybe splitting it into two polls would be a good idea to reduce the noms. On one poll original tracks and on the other one remixes. Just like they do it on Resident Advisor.
― Moka, Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
We already have +1000 tracks and at least 200 are remixes.
― Moka, Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
lets keep it one epic poll
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Pantytec - Elastobabe (Soul Capsule's Cosmic Warrior Mix)Decomposed Subsonic ft Coloma - Part Of The Machine
― etc, Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Horrorist - One Night In NYC
^^ you'll have to wait for the 90s poll because this is from 96
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
inside your mind - Larry Heard presents mr whitepolo- maxmillion dunbarin the end (i want you to cry) - tensnakeboom clap bachelors - Love (Tuff City Kids Remix) The Congo Sound – Say I'm You're Number One (Superpitcher Remix)Wolfram feat. Haddaway - Thing Called Love (Legowelt remix)like yesterday - Christopher RauLove and Sex Acid - Tin ManRelease yourself - Reggie DokesLush summer rain - Move DChoux - BicepCome this far (reshape) - Fred PRick Poppa Howard - Do What You Have to Dopatrice scott - do you feel meyour love terrence parkercloser music - maria
― dsb, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
OK
a few reminders
1) even though the list of nominations is not going to be capped - unlike many other polls where people got a maximum number of nominations - the # of votes ARE going to be capped.
2) so whether we go with a ranking or a points system, you aren't going to be able to vote for *everything* you want to, and i am personally strongly in favor of giving extra weight to ballots w/ fewer tracks on them (a point system would make this simplest)
3) this means that you probably want to go through the list and see how many tracks are already up that you'd want vote for before you add any more nominations. for example, i just spent five minutes doing that and found about forty tracks i would probably nominate myself. this means i am now going to flip through my collection and pick maybe ten tracks i really want on the ballot so i can vote for them, rather than just grabbing every mix and compilation i have and nominating every track i enjoyed
4) as EDB said, for the love of god, please control-f or at least scan the list, just scrolling up and down quickly through the list i see a bunch of repeat noms, many of them rather obvious choices too
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
There's so many tracks now that there's going to be a really thin dispersal of votes presumably with a few tracks getting shitloads and some really surprising choices in the lower reaches of the list.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
That depends how many votes we get
― Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah even though i am a maths/sciences person and statistics and probability is not my strong suit i can intuitively tell that "long tail" effect is kinda going to fuck over the integrity of the results if that tail gets big enough
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
or i guess i should say long enough
then again i imagine that is always a problem to some extent with any poll with a similar methodology, the choices/ordering at the "bottom" (ie less popular) are going to be less predictable and meaningful than the "top" no matter what, it's just going to be a matter of degrees
and also i am sure in the end the moaning on the results thread will not be about process but rather about the definition of house/techno and the pernicious influence of dance hipsterism / contrarianism / middlebrowism / grimebloggerism / pipecockism (see: jazz albums poll results)
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
TBH though it wouldn't be that different to having no nominations at all and everyone getting carte blanche to vote for any dance track they wanted.
Part of the reason I nominated more than I could feasibly vote for was because I wanted to at least have the option of voting for some of them, I have no idea what's going to make my final ballot and I want other people to have the option of voting for them as well.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's fair
i feel like i have a pretty good idea of what i'd vote for but that's mainly because memorability = quality in my head
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
to go back to what moka was saying about restricting the poll to 2000-2010
i do worry that my ballot is going to skew heavily toward the new new new, i found myself wanting to put a lot of stuff on the shortlist from the whole post-dubstep scene (2562, martyn, untold, hessle audio, etc) and i wonder whether that's just because their impact is much more immediate for me than, say, electroclash classixxx
(insert ramblings about critical distance)
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
i will probably vote for songs i had the most fun playing in clubs or dancing to, 2000 to 2006 was when i djed and went out to hear djs a lot.
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
ime the more ballots that you receive the more 'legitimacy' - in the sense of % of total votes cast - the middle range of the results will have
its not that yr wrong is that the more ballots cast the further down the list the 'consensus' extends. i think its debatable about which of these is the most valid, i guess it depends on what the stated aim(s) of this poll are and whether or not you feel that a track with a limited but passionate constituency 'deserves' to place over a track with broader support.
― Lamp, Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
there are surprisingly few theo parrish tracks nominated so far
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
not even Solitary Flight... Which I guess is it's nomination right there
― EDB, Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
i think solitary flight IS up there actually
here's a few nominations of my own
abe duque - what happenedcassius - sound of violencedave clarke - the wolfdj cole medina - buffalo bill (og mix)losoul - liessandwell district - variance (function edit)skudge - convolutionsmith'n'hack - space warriorsoundstream - live goes ontom trago - lost in the streets of nyc
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the two theo tracks are falling up and solitary flight
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link