nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

^^agree with this

And then, if uk funky is excluded, should we also exclude Dennis Ferrer?

...wut

anyway this makes a lot more sense now that i see the orig request for a nomination thread came from the house/techno bobbins thread

why would we exclude garage or etc? that shit doesn't even make sense to me.

yes, tim. I want uk funky and post-dubstep excluded, as much as I like both. but I think electrohouse (booka shade, etc) belongs in this poll. as well as Dennis Ferrer. I mean, he's as house as house can be in my ears.

anyway this makes a lot more sense now that i see the orig request for a nomination thread came from the house/techno bobbins thread

― fauxmarc, Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, that can be a good parameter. anything that belongs in the house/techno bobbins threads, belongs here. there, I think we have our scope. what do you think, late great?

we can have a "dance partisans" poll later, ha.

i could mostly give less of a fuck about the bobbins thread :/

i don't see the point in having seperate polls tho

i mean, i think v's original formulation is pretty straightforward

Books Shade - Night Falls

Booka (stupid auto-correct)

i don't see the point in having seperate polls tho

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:07 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but i want to see what are the top PURE house/techno tracks according to ILM :((((((((((((((((

I fart in your PURE.

Each and Everyone (Blindhouse Mix) - Ada
Always - Midi Rain
Faith (Jazzanova mix) Amp Fiddler
Paris (Aeroplane Mix) Friendly Fires
Perfect Lovers (Unperfect Mix) Phantom Ghost

Fuckpony - Ride The Pony

I fart in your PURE.

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looollll. ok, what about house/techno and anything closely related? it means no dnb, breaks, dubstep (ouch), etc.

would also mean about 75% of trax already nommed would be out

What Else Is There (Trentemøller Mix) Röyksopp

Matias Aguayo -Minimal (Dj Koze Remix)

I don't really get why you would exclude UK Funky and include Ferrer.

In that case it's as logical to say "no techno not from detroit".

Not that I really care but i think if you're gonna be restrictive then you should have a think about what the biases really are.

if this is really about "middle class refined house and techno only please" then say so.

more like 75% of the trax already nommed are fitting enough. 85%, even.

xpost

i like the idea of an all encompassing electronic dance music poll of the 00s

Audion - Mouth to Mouth
Matthew Jonson - Marionette

I'd just say to hell with it and let the voters decide which tracks are house/techno related and which are not. We're cool enough to do that, right? About Dennis Ferrer, I don't understand what's the deal. Yes, maybe his tracks get played by uk funky dj's but his tracks are house, no doubt about it.

i'm also still trying to grasp this tying of ferrer to funky rather than mainstream house archetypes and it isn't happening at all

Shackleton - Blood On My Hands (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)

I think it's best to have a wide range of noms, and people can decide for themselves what they consider to fit under the umbrella. If only because I think this Dennis Ferrer/UK Funky v House thing would be just the tip of the iceberg.

also I'm well excited for this. thanks lg!

and what kind of umbrella is it?

Well the umbrella would presumably be "electronic dance tracks of the 00s"

also is this 2000-2009?

if that's the umbrella then I don't see any debate about what fits and what doesn't.

let's make it 2000-now.

exactly

I think it's best to have a wide range of noms, and people can decide for themselves what they consider to fit under the umbrella. If only because I think this Dennis Ferrer/UK Funky v House thing would be just the tip of the iceberg.

yeah I was just citing it as an example.

But if you can't see why saying "The Cure & The Cause" is in but "Do You Mind" is out is thoroughly inconsistent then you do not have ears.

I'm not the kind of person who typically says "screw genre it's all a big free for all" but I thinkl there are loads of fairly dodgy assumptions behind running "house / techno" together as if "we all know" what kind of music this means.

ok then, so not to waste any more time, let's make this an EDM poll. stuff like Rapture, LCD Soundsystem, M.I.A. don't count right? please, at least you guys can agree with me on this, lol.

yeah i would assume that. remixes are fine though.

what about edits?

if anyone wants to nominate tessio then please state which version.

i think there are def rapture and LCD tracks (i need love, someone great) that are as housey as, say, superpitcher's mix of "the dream of evan and chan". i loathe that track but i bet it will place.

but yeah, i imagine that "house of jealous lovers" is out

disco edits?? that def seems out IMO.

but, but, they are like...bands.

yes, like tiger and woods.

my motive for wanting to include stuff like funky, ukg, dubstep, etc is just to make a more interesting poll and to include more diverse voices while still keeping the logical consistency of ok, these are all musics we can trace back to, or i dunno, maybe just essentially indebted to mr fingers and kevin saunderson (even drum and bass)

it's probably why i prefer RA's end of year roundup to LWE's, or pitchfork's to terrorizer's or CMJ's

what's the argument for purity?

would a workable compromise be to do an all-inclusive poll and then release the data and allow people to figure out separate "house only" or "techno only" rankings by throwing out shit they don't like?

don't see why some m.i.a. couldn't be considered if someone wanted. pull up the people rather than than paper planes, for example

i think part of the point of a nominations process is to exclude tracks that don't meet the criteria at this stage, and by "don't meet the criteria" i'd say anything where the nominator is obviously stretching a point. UKG etc. are fine in this context imo cos at least one of their ancestors is Detroit.

inner city and fingers inc were bands too!!

edits are really sticky territory

i really have no desire to be a gatekeeper or editor, i'm down to tabulate and do logistical stuff but deciding why theo's ugly edits or soul clap's garbage edits make the cut but magnetic man is (as obama put it) "above my pay grade"

maybe shd set a threshhold based on BPM

"why magnetic man *doesn't* is"

Wouldn't have thought the dntel remix would place for superpitcher, too many other better tracks.

Henrik Schwarz - Stop Look And Listen
Rhythm And Sound - Poor People Must Work (Carl Craig Remix)
Martyn - Seventy Four (Redshape Mix)
Panda Bear - Bros
The Field - Kappsta
Pantha Du Prince – Eisbaden

i like how you try to sneak panda bear in behind a few excellent choices

progress? anything? late great

wait until the weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8jOJZERhs

cool :)

Thanks NickB for building up that spotify playlist

Erm.... just a link here for anyone else (like me) who wasn't aware of the new thread:
review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s

thank you NBS